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gab88 11-14-2011 06:20 AM

Hitler; was he that bad?
 
Follow along with me for a second

- Jews have been thrown out from every nation
- Jews are in control of today’s mass media
- Hitler is apparently racist
- It is commonly said that after Jesse Owens win at the 1936 Olympics he left straightaway when in fact Adolf Hitler did in fact shake hands with the black US athlete after his win
- He was allied with Japan and the Dervish Empire (now modern day Somalia)
- Attempted to aid the Arab nations against colonialism
- History is written by the winners

What’s your opinion? Discuss.

DanaC 11-14-2011 06:53 AM

My opinion is that he was instrumental in the mass slaughter of several million people and committed acts of intentional genocide against an entire race.

Yes, he was that bad.

gab88 11-14-2011 06:58 AM

I cant seem to edit, I meant to write, was hitler actually racist?

Undertoad 11-14-2011 07:28 AM

Yes.

jimhelm 11-14-2011 07:30 AM

Only mods can modify a thread title.

Brave way to introduce yourself there, mein furer.

I am pretty sure that there was enough reporting of his crimes while they were occurring to make your history written by the winners point invalid.

infinite monkey 11-14-2011 07:39 AM

He was really good in Springtime for Hitler.

Trilby 11-14-2011 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 772605)
He was really good in Springtime for Hitler.

:lol:


He loved dogs.

DanaC 11-14-2011 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gab88 (Post 772595)
I cant seem to edit, I meant to write, was hitler actually racist?


Ok. I'll bite. How do you define a racist?

Trilby 11-14-2011 07:57 AM

srsly, Stephen Colbert did a bit where he says b/c the Wisconsin accent is so friendly-sounding you could a Wisconsonite to say something good about Hitler and it would sound reasonable. "Oh, he was super organized you know," something to that effect.

DanaC 11-14-2011 07:58 AM

I'm not even touching the Jews in control of the world's media thing with a ten foot barge pole btw ;p

Trilby 11-14-2011 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 772617)
I'm not even touching the Jews in control of the world's media thing with a ten foot barge pole btw ;p

What? They're in charge on the entire world's media?

They must be super organized.

DanaC 11-14-2011 08:03 AM

is Clod Jewish?

infinite monkey 11-14-2011 08:03 AM

No, but I think glatt is.

;)

Trilby 11-14-2011 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 772623)
is Clod Jewish?

Meh. She's Jew - ish.

footfootfoot 11-14-2011 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 772624)
No, but I think glatt is.

;)

No, glatt is kosher. ;) ;)

footfootfoot 11-14-2011 09:53 AM

And another thing, I'm sick of the Jews hijacking the whole holocaust thing.

More than 12 million people were exterminated by the Nazis. Why do 50% of the victims get the lion's share of the credit?

Oh, that's right, they were super organized.

glatt 11-14-2011 09:55 AM

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Trilby 11-14-2011 09:55 AM

I think they get the lion's share because (whispers/nobodywantstolivenextdoortothegypsies/endwhisper)

infinite monkey 11-14-2011 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 772665)
All you need to know is that I'm strait styling, and my new formula has more content.

What's that name on the right side of the box...Schleppers?

For professional use only. Well crap. Professional WHAT? :o

glatt 11-14-2011 10:00 AM

I aspire to be one of the professional shit men.

footfootfoot 11-14-2011 10:06 AM

whoa, who ever thought of including the Russians in that tally? Now we're talking big numbers:
Quote:

The number of victims depends on which definition of "the Holocaust" is used. Donald Niewyk and Francis Nicosia write in The Columbia Guide to the Holocaust that the term is commonly defined[8] as the mass murder, and attempt to wipe out, European Jewry, which would bring the total number of victims to just under six million—around 78 percent of the 7.3 million Jews in occupied Europe at the time.[236]
Broader definitions include approximately 2 to 3 million Soviet POWs, 2 million ethnic Poles, up to 1,500,000 Romani, 200,000 handicapped, political and religious dissenters, 15,000 homosexuals and 5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses, bringing the death toll to around 11 million. The broadest definition would include 6 million Soviet civilians, raising the death toll to 17 million.[8] R.J. Rummel estimates the total democide death toll of Nazi Germany to be 21 million. Other estimates put total casualties of Soviet Union's citizens alone to about 26 million.

infinite monkey 11-14-2011 10:33 AM

Because I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
Come On
Jew Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
Jew Know It
Jew Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
Come On, Jew Know
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now
Just To Tell You Once Again,
Jew's Bad . . .

DanaC 11-14-2011 10:51 AM

Oh, bitch, you are so going to hell

lol

infinite monkey 11-14-2011 10:57 AM

I know.

But Satan needs a girlfriend, and I'm the right girl for the, em...position.

wolf 11-14-2011 11:53 AM

Gab, you might feel the love more over here ...

(and for the three of you who don't know, the "88" in the screenname is secret code for HH. Not terribly inventive, secret code, mind you, but secret. Unless of course gab was born in 1988, which is certainly possible.)

DanaC 11-14-2011 12:07 PM

I am aware of the 88 being used in that manner. Though, these days I think they also use 18 (AH) as in Combat 18.

But a lot of silly adolescents go through a flirtation with this kind of shit, and as you say, it may be coincidencental, so figured I'd go with it a little.

Gravdigr 11-14-2011 01:50 PM


Sundae 11-14-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 772666)
(whispers/nobodywantstolivenextdoortothegypsies/endwhisper)

(whispers/or teh queers becos they will judge you on your curtains and not the beef ones/endwhisper)

infinite monkey 11-14-2011 02:38 PM

I read that as queer tacos.

Clodfobble 11-14-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC
is Clod Jewish?

Nah, though I did date two Jewish guys, including a rabbi's son. But everyone knows that shiksas are for practice.

ZenGum 11-14-2011 07:29 PM

Wait, Rupert Murdoch is Jewish too?

He'll have to hand back that papal knighthood.

classicman 11-14-2011 09:22 PM

Wolf - you got me curious, so I spent a lil time looking at that site. Wow, just wow.
smh. Some people really embarrass the rest of humanity.

Trilby 11-15-2011 06:57 AM

I learned about that 'secret' 88 thing last night on HOMELAND (excellent show - highly recommend and Claire Danes is my new hero)

Some weirdo character in a dive bar had an 88 tat on his arm and Claire's character guessed what it really meant (he said it was his football number in HS) - I'd never heard of that before.

DanaC 11-15-2011 07:09 AM

There's a fairly active neo-nazi fringe where I live.


Lot of young men go through a 'phase' of it in their late teens and early 20s. Some stick with it for life, but many grow up and move on. It suffers from the same problem that a lot of communist groups suffer from: they bring in members with revolutionary rhetoric, but then the revolution doesn't happen :P

infinite monkey 11-15-2011 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 772931)
I learned about that 'secret' 88 thing last night on HOMELAND (excellent show - highly recommend and Claire Danes is my new hero)

Some weirdo character in a dive bar had an 88 tat on his arm and Claire's character guessed what it really meant (he said it was his football number in HS) - I'd never heard of that before.

Is that on HoBO?

I luvz Claire Danes, since her days on My So-called Life.

I had never heard of the 88 thing either. Now I know!

kerosene 11-15-2011 06:13 PM

Stalin was pretty bad too...Wikipedia on him says anywhere from 3-60 million were killed between 1930 and 1950 due to executions, gulags, and starvation...oh and WW2.

ZenGum 11-15-2011 06:32 PM

As well as his terrible crimes against non-German people, he used and ruined Germany itself. His "No retreat, no surrender, death or victory!" obsession led to the pointless deaths of millions of his own troops and millions more German civillians.

Seriously, he was a delusional idiot as well as a hate-filled psychopathic bigot. Yes, he was that bad.

TheMercenary 11-15-2011 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gab88 (Post 772589)
What’s your opinion? Discuss.

My opinion: you are an idiot.

Sheldonrs 11-15-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 773205)
My opinion: you are an idiot.

What he said.

glatt 11-15-2011 08:52 PM

gab88, thanks for posing your question. Over the last few days, I've given more thought to Hitler than I had in a long time. You go so long just lumping "Hitler" and "evil" together in your mind, that you don't even think about it any more. It's good to refresh the old memory.

Bono, from U2 11-17-2011 09:05 PM

It was all going so well before he implemented his 'progressive' social policies. And he played the Banjo like a mo-fo!
http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/x...itlerbanjo.gif

Trilby 11-18-2011 03:31 AM

Hey look everybody!

It's Bono, from U2!

No, really!

Gravdigr 12-19-2011 03:06 AM

Hitler Had The Poops
 
from moreintelligentlife.com via TheSmartSet

Quote:

THE MADMAN AT THE BREAKFAST TABLE

HITLER WAS EVEN SICKER THAN YOU THOUGHT
November 7th 2007

It may sound like a Woody Allen scenario, but medical historians are unanimous that Adolf was the victim of uncontrollable flatulence. Spasmodic stomach cramps, constipation and diarrhea, possibly the result of nervous tension, had been Hitler's curse since childhood and only grew more severe as he aged. As a stressed-out dictator, the agonising digestive attacks would occur after most meals: Albert Speer recalled that the Führer, ashen-faced, would leap up from the dinner table and disappear to his room.

This was an embarrassing problem for a ruthless leader of the Third Reich. With uncharacteristic concern for his fellow human beings, Hitler had first tried to cure himself when he was a rising politician in 1929 by poring over medical manuals, coming to the conclusion that a largely veg diet would calm his turbulent digestion as well as make his farts less offensive to the nose. A rabid hypochondriac, he would also examine his own feces on a regular basis and administer himself camomile enemas.

Hitler decided to swear off meat completely in 1931, when his niece (and presumed romantic interest) Geli Raubel committed suicide: When presented with a plate of breakfast ham the next morning, he pushed it away muttering, "It's like eating a corpse." From that squeamish moment on, great piles of vegetables, raw or pulped into a baby mulch, were Hitler's daily staple. (All cooked foods, he decided, were carcinogenic). He showed a particular fondness, culinary historians assure us, for oatmeal with linseed oil, cauliflower, cottage cheese, boiled apples, artichoke hearts and asparagus tips in white sauce.

Strangely, Hitler was unfazed by the fact that this high-fiber diet was having the opposite effect on his digestion than what he had intended. His private physician, Dr. Theo Morell, recorded in his diary that after Hitler downed a typical vegetable platter, "constipation and colossal flatulence occurred on a scale I have seldom encountered before."

Hitler's stomach problems may even have played their part in his losing the war, thanks to this shadowy figure of Dr. Morell, an incompetent quack who took over Hitler's medical care in 1937. The pair had met at a Christmas gathering in the Berghof, the bucolic mountain retreat decorated with Bavarian knick-knacks and edelweiss, the year before.

Morrell was an unpleasant figure even by Nazi standards--grossly obese, with frog-like features, sulfurous B.O. and venomous halitosis. But when he cured a painful case of eczema on Hitler's legs and provided temporary relief for his stomach cramps, the Führer was won over. To the irritation of other Nazi doctors, Hitler then proceeded to swallow any of Morell's advice, no matter how hair-brained, for the next eight years.

For example, to combat recurrences of the volcanic stomach problems, Morell plied him with a remedy called "Dr. Küster's Anti-gas pills," which contained significant amounts of strychnine--and Hitler often took as many as 16 of the little black pills a day. The sallow skin, glaucous eyes and attention lapses noted by observers later in the war are consistent with strychnine poisoning; another ingredient in the pills, antropine, causes mood wings from euphoria to violent anger.

Even more peculiar were the injections of amphetamines that Morell administered every morning before breakfast from 1941, which may have exacerbated the erratic behavior, inflexibility, paranoia and indecision that Hitler began to display increasingly as the war ground on. And there was a barrage of other supplements--vitamins, testosterone, liver extracts, laxatives, sedatives, glucose and opiates, all intended to combat the dictator's real or imagined ailments.

After the war, US intelligence officers discovered that Morell was pumping Hitler with 28 different drugs, including eye-drops that contained 10 percent cocaine (up to 10 treatments a day), a concoction made from human placenta and "potency pills" made from ground bull's testicles. But despite the barrage of medicines, Morell's diaries (which were recovered from Germany and are kept in the National Archives in Washington, DC) make clear that the bouts of "agonizing flatulence" remained a regular occurrence.

A relatively healthy man when he met Morell, Hitler degenerated quickly towards the end of the war until he was a physical wreck. Hitler's arms were so riddled with hypodermic marks that even the normally passive Eva Braun complained to her mother about Morell as "the injection quack." When Hitler came down with jaundice in 1944, three Nazi doctors tried to have Morell fired. But the Führer remained fiercely loyal--or just as likely, addicted to his chemical cocktails--and dismissed the trio of troublemakers instead.

Morell stayed with Hitler in the Bunker almost until the bitter end, as his patient began to fall apart completely (and a tremor in his left hand became uncontrollable, a probable symptom of advancing Parkinson's disease). On April 20, 1945, days before the Russians took Berlin, Hitler suddenly refused Morell's hypodermic, ordered him to strip off his uniform and leave. Desperately ill himself, Morell was soon captured by the U.S. Army and kept in prison for two years of interrogations, but was never charged with war crimes. He was hospitalized immediately after his release and died in 1948.

If he had not been so cravenly devoted to Hitler, a hero-worship he expressed over and again to US interrogators, one might have thought Morell a spy. It was a suspicion that had occurred to other Nazis, especially during the 1944 jaundice attack. Heinrich Himmler interrogated Morell's assistant Richard Weber in Berlin's Gestapo Headquarters about whether the doctor was deliberately poisoning the Führer with his treatments. "Out of the question," Weber replied. "Morell's too big a coward for that."



SOURCES/FURTHER READING: Gordon, Bertram, "Fascism, the Neo-Right and Gastronomy: A Case in the Theory of the Social Engineering of Taste," Proceedings of the Oxford Symposium on Food and Cookery (1987); Heston, Leonard and Renate, "The Medical Casebook of Adolf Hitler: His Illnesses, Doctors and Drugs", (New York, 2000); Irving, David, "The Secret Diaries of Hitler's Doctor", (London, 1983); Waite, Robert G.L., "The Psychopathic God: Adolf Hitler", New York, 1993.

(Tony Perrottet's latest book, "Napoleon's Privates: 2500 Years of History Unzipped", will be published next year by William Morrow.)
I visualize this, and find it very funny.

Gravdigr 01-08-2012 06:49 PM

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richlevy 01-08-2012 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 772665)
All you need to know is that I'm strait styling, and my new formula has more content.

The name of the company in the upper right of that box is Schwarzkopf, literally 'black head'.

And Glatt is a strict form of kosher, the word literally means 'smooth'.

Yes, Hitler was that evil. Any ruler that deliberately slaughters his or her own citizens is the worst kind of evil.

Jews were the largest single population group killed. This should in no way detract from the suffering of homosexuals, intellectuals, gypsies, or any other group that suffered.

case closed.

it 01-08-2012 09:33 PM

well, yeah, in order to believe otherwise you pretty much have to have an ethical system that is fine with cold blooded mass killing, or one that is fine with it when the mass killings are minority related.

but let's take a moment to apriciate young hitler's fine art:
http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/ar.../29982.jpg?v=1

did you like it?

Trilby 01-09-2012 05:09 AM

our newest member: stephani88.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

we are being inundated with either the class of '88 or Nazis.

Undertoad 01-09-2012 08:39 AM

I'm calling foul on this 88 nonsense. Those fucks don't get to take numbers away from us.

DanaC 01-09-2012 08:40 AM

We should all adopt 88 into our names. Confuse the fuck out of those motherfuckers.

Lamplighter 01-09-2012 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 786243)
We should all adopt 88 into our names. Confuse the fuck out of those motherfuckers.

That's a Dane good idea...

DanaC 01-09-2012 08:50 AM

hahahahahah very good.

Pete Zicato 01-09-2012 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 772625)
Meh. She's Jew - ish.

My bass teacher says he isn't Jewish - he's Jewish-ish.

Pete Zicato 01-09-2012 11:35 AM

Anyone who's anyone knows that an 88 is a piano.

HungLikeJesus 01-09-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 786293)
My bass teacher says he isn't Jewish - he's Jewish-ish.

That's a good idea - I should learn to fish.

infinite monkey 01-09-2012 01:14 PM

Like Swedish Fish, only with more guilt?

Sundae 01-09-2012 02:01 PM

You know your potatoes!
(meet you in Bombay)

ZenGum 01-09-2012 06:24 PM

1788 was the year of white settlement in Australia, so 88 is a milestone for us.

Oddly it was also the number of Australians killed in the Bali bombings (total 202 of all nationalities).

I suspect the 88 is not just for HH, but also the 88mm was the German's most formidable piece of artillery during WWII. It was used as the main gun on Tiger tanks when they realised their Panzers couldn't take out a soviet T-34 tank.

Gravdigr 01-14-2012 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 786298)
Anyone who's anyone knows that an 88 is a piano.

Anyone who's anyone knows that an 88 is an Oldsmobile.

Griff 01-14-2012 03:05 PM

Anyone who's anyone knows 88 is having to blowup 11 more balloons.

Gravdigr 01-15-2012 11:54 AM

Nena!


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