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Undertoad 10-29-2011 04:58 PM

7 Billionth person to be born on Monday
 
Earth pop. now apx 7000000000

Many will wring their hands at this.

But here, at the Cellar, we watched that video from that dude;

That dude who showed how, once cultures advance a little, their lifespan goes way up and the number of kids in their families goes way down. From seven children per family to two children per family.

At one point the population curve looked like a J and many people projected that this was a disaster of tremendous proportions.

But at the same time, global fertility rates and the number of babies popping out started to fall:

http://cellar.org/2011/World_populat..._1800-2005.png

Now they've realized that the curve is going to be more of an S than a J. It's not that the original population scientists were wrong with their science. It's that there were forces at work they hadn't anticipated.

Maybe there are forces that we don't understand. There may be human instincts to keep reproduction levels high enough to ensure the survival of the tribe. If life is hard, you need seven children to keep the it going. If life is easy, you only need two.

Pete Zicato 10-29-2011 05:18 PM

What will they win?

footfootfoot 10-29-2011 05:39 PM

Monday Monday can't trust that day
Monday Monday 7 billionth baby just popped out they say
Oh Sunday morning, it gave me no warning of what was to be...
That Monday morning there'd be 7 billion babies.

Clodfobble 10-29-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
their lifespan goes way up and the number of kids in their families goes way down.

Also, the healthier they are, the more likely they are to have multiple births. Even after removing the influence of in vitro procedures, the rate has gone up relatively dramatically in just the last 100 years.

What if, in another 1000-2000 years, we're all having litters of 3-4 at a time, with gestation periods of 14 months?

wolf 10-29-2011 06:07 PM

I'm the 3,125,391,604th person, according to this.

Undertoad 10-29-2011 08:55 PM

Clod, mankind should have all the genetic stuff worked out by then, to produce whatever is best so... what would you women prefer to birth, four 3-pounders or two 6-pounders?

Trilby 10-30-2011 07:42 AM

I would prefer that men birth them. Whatever the poundage.

Clodfobble 10-30-2011 08:26 AM

It ain't just the birth, it's the next 18 years. Better to engineer a larger birthing canal in the first place. And of course, no one wants a worldwide "hotdog in a hallway" epidemic, so now we have to engineer bigger penises, too. But I hear that research has been well underway for decades, so it's alright.

richlevy 10-30-2011 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 767999)
I'm the 3,125,391,604th person, according to this.

I'm below 3,000,000,000. I didn't realize that you were so much younger than me.

You're still just a babe, babe;).

Lamplighter 10-30-2011 09:36 AM

I'm 2,184,948,001... take that all you young wippersnappers !

wolf 10-30-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 768189)
I'm below 3,000,000,000. I didn't realize that you were so much younger than me.

You're still just a babe, babe;).

I am babe-a-licious.

And I didn't think you were that much older ...

DanaC 10-30-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

When you were born, you were the:
3,817,332,574th person alive on Earth

78,029,780,840th person to have lived since history began

HungLikeJesus 10-30-2011 05:43 PM

I wonder how they define a person.

footfootfoot 10-30-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 768274)
I wonder how they define a person.

It's a noun (unknown)

Griff 10-30-2011 07:49 PM

3,276,864,908

Aliantha 10-30-2011 07:56 PM

Clearly, according to UT's chart, we'll get to negative growth soon and then we'll be right. All this technology, and not so many people.

As long as we don't blow ourselves up first, we'll be fine. :)

Spexxvet 10-31-2011 10:20 AM

2,989,365,637th

HungLikeJesus 10-31-2011 10:34 AM

6,157,029

infinite monkey 10-31-2011 10:34 AM

:lol2:

You're killing me today!

footfootfoot 10-31-2011 11:05 AM

he is hilarious

Undertoad 10-31-2011 11:15 AM

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we'll get to negative growth soon and then we'll be right
Maybe, but: declining population has its own special set of problems, including economic decline, and the imbalance of fewer youngsters having to pay for more medical support for the elderly.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...79N2MW20111024

Quote:

...in fact improvements in food production and technology have allowed population growth to continue unimpeded and relatively smoothly, and the real potential nightmare is of a rapidly aging population, combined with collapsing birthrates in both rich and poor states.

Many demographers and long-term planners say the challenge for the next century will be less dealing with growing numbers of people and more managing the much larger population of aged and perhaps dependent people while finding new strategies to deliver prosperity, jobs and essential services.

The trend has already contributed to the current global financial crisis by driving up health and social care bills and perhaps also undermining productivity.

HungLikeJesus 10-31-2011 11:22 AM

The world economy is a pyramid scheme.

Lamplighter 10-31-2011 11:33 AM

Where are the Defense of Marriage advocates now ?

Kim Kardashian Filing for Divorce after 72 days bride

BigV 10-31-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 768192)
I'm 2,184,948,001... take that all you young wippersnappers !

When I was born, I was the 3,106,759,757th person alive on Earth, Gramps.

Griff 11-05-2011 07:51 AM

I heard somewhere this week that reduced male fertility should give us a human free planet in 10,000 years or so, unless Pakistani nukes go free range earlier.

HungLikeJesus 11-05-2011 08:25 AM

I'm looking forward to that!

Lamplighter 11-05-2011 08:29 AM

Or the hermaphrodites finally get their act together

Griff 11-05-2011 08:42 AM

Nice one!

Undertoad 11-05-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 770341)
I heard somewhere this week that reduced male fertility should give us a human free planet in 10,000 years or so

Here is the exact same error made by the overpopulation scientists: predict the future by assuming the present curve won't change.

40 years ago scientists determined population would increase out of control, and today some set has determined it will decrease out of control.

Griff 11-05-2011 02:35 PM

Word.

piercehawkeye45 11-05-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 770341)
I heard somewhere this week that reduced male fertility should give us a human free planet in 10,000 years or so, unless Pakistani nukes go free range earlier.

If this were true the last 1,000 years would consist of females basically farming fertile males for their sperm. Sex would be too inefficient. Scary.

Lamplighter 11-05-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 770492)
If this were true the last 1,000 years would consist of females basically farming fertile males for their sperm. Sex would be too inefficient. Scary.

We do have well trained Dwellars for that.

Spexxvet 11-07-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 770412)
Here is the exact same error made by the overpopulation scientists: predict the future by assuming the present curve won't change.

40 years ago scientists determined population would increase out of control, and today some set has determined it will decrease out of control.

Well, we were warned 40 years ago, weren't we?:D

Happy Monkey 11-09-2011 08:59 PM

Herman Cain says that there are thousands of women he didn't molest for every one he did. Given this number, and giving him the benefit of the doubt of 999,000 for "thousands", we've got over 7000 more women waiting to come out and accuse him.

BigV 11-09-2011 10:24 PM

apparently a grasp of arithmetic is not an entrance requirement for the presidential nomination race.

xoxoxoBruce 11-09-2011 10:34 PM

2,395,766,142nd

infinite monkey 11-10-2011 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 771509)
Herman Cain says that there are thousands of women he didn't molest for every one he did. Given this number, and giving him the benefit of the doubt of 999,000 for "thousands", we've got over 7000 more women waiting to come out and accuse him.

Herman Cain never molested me.

I am the 99%. :mad:

Spexxvet 11-10-2011 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 771595)
Herman Cain never molested me.

I am the 99%. :mad:

Thank FSM! :lol:


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