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HungLikeJesus 10-17-2011 07:33 PM

Sell by
 
We have some ground beef in the refrigerator with a sell-by date of September 27 (about 3 weeks ago).

I think it smells OK.

Would you eat it?


If so, PM me your address.

Aliantha 10-17-2011 07:37 PM

lol...You know, it depends what temp you keep your fridge at, and also how you're intending to cook the beef. For starters, if it's cold enough in your fridge, it'll extend the sell by date and also, if you're going to thoroughly cook it and it smells fine, it probably is fine.

That's my very unexpert, home makers point of view.

HungLikeJesus 10-17-2011 07:40 PM

According to my wife, it's cold enough in the house that it wouldn't even need to be in the refrigerator. I think I'll make some spaghetti with it.

Thanks Ali.

Aliantha 10-17-2011 07:43 PM

Cool. If we don't see you for a while, we'll send flowers, or would you prefer a donation to your favourite charity? ;)

HungLikeJesus 10-17-2011 07:50 PM

If I'm not back by tomorrow, please put a pound of fresh meat in the tip jar.

infinite monkey 10-18-2011 07:46 AM

I wouldn't eat it. Maybe a week after 'sell-by' but then I'd get worried.

Which reminds me...I wonder what the 'sell-by' date is on that package of ground chuck (sorry chuck, you're just so tasty) in my fridge. I keep forgetting to put it in the trash (I leave it in the fridge until I'm ready to take a load to the dumpster...otherwise it either smells or if I put it outside the raccoons tear into the trash.)

monster 10-18-2011 08:03 AM

RIP HLJ. I've pounded my meat into the jar in your memory. what?


No I wouldn't eat it either and I'm not usually fussy about sell by dates, but three weeks is a long time for something that's ground and you don't know what else night have gotten into it during the grinding process....... Meat is supposed to get nicer and tenderer when properly aged, but I don't think grinding it and then leaving it in the fridge counts as "properly".

Sundae 10-18-2011 09:35 AM

What she said.
If it was in your freezer then have away, but not the fridge.

DanaC 10-18-2011 10:04 AM

Man, I wouldn't touch that with yours.

classicman 10-18-2011 11:01 AM

If it was in the freezer for most of that time, absolutely. If it was in the fridge - no way.

Clodfobble 10-18-2011 12:26 PM

On the one hand, if it smells good and has not gone off-color in the slightest, it is as reasonably microbe-free as any other meat from your butcher's counter and can be cooked and eaten with no greater risk.

On the other hand, the only reason modern meat does this is because it's been washed in ammonia to make it extra sterile. The kind of meat you should be eating also would have gone quite obviously bad by now.

Pick your poison.

skysidhe 10-18-2011 12:34 PM

Ammonia. No wonder I can't stand store bought beef.

For some reason, I can tolerate a big mac. It must be all of that special sauce.

Undertoad 10-18-2011 01:07 PM

Buy only ground beef that's been ground by the store (if it has an operating butchery department, it does), and use it within two days.

Fully cooking meat that has gone off does not protect you. Cooking kills the bacteria that may be bad for you; but if the bacteria has had time to get going already, its by-products are a worse poison, not destroyed by cooking.

HungLikeJesus 10-18-2011 01:08 PM

I'm not dead.

I feel fine.

I think I'll go for a walk.

classicman 10-18-2011 01:30 PM

bring your cell just in case.

glatt 10-18-2011 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 764826)
I'm not dead.

I feel fine.

I think I'll go for a walk.

You're not fooling anybody.

infinite monkey 10-18-2011 02:15 PM

Well I'll be damned.

Whoever would have thought even for a second that the first Zombie in the Zombie Apocalypse would be Jesus?

HungLikeJesus 10-18-2011 02:27 PM

Everybody.

It's in the book.

Gravdigr 10-18-2011 02:32 PM

I always liked HLJ. Such a shame, I'll miss him.:sniff:

monster 10-18-2011 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 764826)
I'm not dead.

I feel fine.

I think I'll go for a walk.

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 764840)
You're not fooling anybody.

:bonk:

sexobon 10-18-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 764676)
... Which reminds me...I wonder what the 'sell-by' date is on that package of ground chuck (sorry chuck, you're just so tasty) in my fridge. I keep forgetting to put it in the trash ...

The secret's out, now we know what you use for hobo bait.

glatt 10-18-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 764886)
:bonk:

:thumb:

jimhelm 10-18-2011 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 764858)
I always liked HLJ. Such a shame, I'll miss him.:sniff:


infinite monkey 10-18-2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 764892)
The secret's out, now we know what you use for hobo bait.

Sigh. Chuck was a damn good hobo too. I almost kept that one. :sniff:

But you know how it goes. You keep one good hobo, the next thing you know you have 200 hobos running around taking over.

Gravdigr 10-18-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 764903)
But you know how it goes. You keep one good hobo, the next thing you know you have 200 hobos running around taking over...

...and everybody calls ya 'the crazy, hobo-lady'.

Aliantha 10-18-2011 07:20 PM

Well I'm glad I was right. :)

We don't wash meat in ammonia over here. It's not allowed thank god.

As I mentioned, whether or not the meat is still good has a lot to do with the temp it's been kept in, but to add to that, how much time it's actually been exposed to air for, and that's the problem with some meat. If it's come straight off the hook, been ground then packaged, chances of contamination are low. If it were ground then put on a tray in the window of the shop, chances of contamination are high.

There are so many variables, but it comes down mostly to texture, smell, appearance and finally taste.

BTW, I assume you're all aware that the reason asian countries (and others) use so many spices is because of the lack of refridgeration which causes the meat to go rancid, so rather than waste it, it gets cooked for hours in a pot with lots of flavours so you can't taste the meat anymore. ;)

eta: and obviously it's not killing them off too quickly. Last time I blinked there were still more asian people around than you can poke a stick at.

HungLikeJesus 10-18-2011 08:03 PM

I've just had the second serving (I made chili, not spaghetti, as I felt the jalapeños would help kill off any bugs).


I see that no one has put any fresh meat in the tip mug.

infinite monkey 10-18-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 764942)
~snip~
eta: and obviously it's not killing them off too quickly. Last time I blinked there were still more asian people around than you can poke a stick at.

Yeah, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an Asian. Oh. Oops!

:lol:

Sorry. :o

Aliantha 10-18-2011 08:56 PM

I hope I didn't offend lola or any of our other asian posters. There really are a lot of asian people in the world though. I'm not being racist when I say that.

classicman 10-18-2011 09:41 PM

yes you are, you WACIST!!!!!


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