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Big Sarge 10-16-2011 11:46 PM

Are you a Democrat, Republican, or a Southerner??
 
Here is a little test that will help you decide. The answer can be found by posing the following question:

You're walking down a
deserted street with your wife
and two small children.

Suddenly, a Terrorist with a huge knife
comes around the corner,
locks eyes with you,
screams obscenities,
raises the knife, and charges at you...

You are carrying a
Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP, and you are an expert shot.
You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
What do you do?

THINK CAREFULLY AND
THEN SCROLL DOWN:

Democrat's Answer:
Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!
What is a Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP?
Does the man look poor or oppressed?
Is he really a terrorist? Am I guilty of profiling?
Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?
Could we run away?
What does my wife think?
What about the kids?
Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand?
What does the law say about this situation?
Does the pistol have appropriate safety built into it?
Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?
Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?
Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?
If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me?
Should I call 9-1-1?
Why is this street so deserted?
We need to raise taxes, have paint & weed day.
Can we make this a happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior.
I need to debate this with some friends for a few days and try to come to a consensus.
This is all so confusing!





Republican's Answer:

BANG!






Southerner's Answer:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
BANG ! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Click..... (Sounds of reloading)
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
BANG!
BANG!
BANG!
Click

Daughter: 'Nice grouping, Daddy!'
'Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?! '

Son: 'Can I shoot the next one?!'

Wife: 'You ain't taking that to the Taxidermist!

DanaC 10-17-2011 02:37 AM

left wing /= soft hearted pacifist.

bluecuracao 10-17-2011 02:59 AM

I wouldn't ever walk down a deserted street with my wife and two small children in the first place.

[Philadelphian, aka Democrat]

nowhereman 10-17-2011 06:53 AM

I may be a left-leaning New Englander BUT --- that guy wold be dead in a heartbeat (or lack of one...):D

fargon 10-17-2011 07:13 AM

Southern Republican.

ZenGum 10-17-2011 07:22 AM

I cry "Allah Akbar, brother, Daikhallat"

He drops the knife, we become friends.

Then I stab him.

infinite monkey 10-17-2011 08:35 AM

Quote:

You're walking down a
deserted street with your wife
and two small children.

Suddenly, a Terrorist with a huge knife
comes around the corner,
locks eyes with you,
screams obscenities,
raises the knife, and charges at you...

You are carrying a
Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP, and you are an expert shot.
You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
What do you do
That is some of the finest poetry I've ever read. It started out with an obvious haiku influence, then employed shocking imagery as a bridge stanza...leading directly to the haunting conclusion, and the age-old question "what do you do?" What do you do, indeed? Striking.

I think it needs to go in "Creative Expressions."

;)

Spexxvet 10-17-2011 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 764277)
What do you do?

What would Jesus do?

I'll bet he wouldn't...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 764277)
Republican's Answer:

BANG!

Southerner's Answer:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
BANG ! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Click..... (Sounds of reloading)
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
BANG!
BANG!
BANG!
Click

Daughter: 'Nice grouping, Daddy!'
'Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?! '

Son: 'Can I shoot the next one?!'

Wife: 'You ain't taking that to the Taxidermist!

which is hilarious, considering the typical repubican and southerner self-identification as christians.

infinite monkey 10-17-2011 08:44 AM

BURN!

:lol:

monster 10-17-2011 08:53 AM

Ok, the thing all you wrong people don't get is that Jesus was a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of person. Just like the Republicans. In fact, Jesus was a Republican. And God wouldn't think twice about smoting that fucker and then reloading. Jesus was just God's Republican salesperson, really......

Spexxvet 10-17-2011 08:58 AM

Yeah, modern christians have rejected the old testament, 'cept for the peices they want to keep.

monster 10-17-2011 09:03 AM

The "no sex with ducks" bits?

Spexxvet 10-17-2011 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 764352)
The "no sex with ducks" bits?

That's why they only fuck goats.


Too soon?

HungLikeJesus 10-17-2011 09:18 AM

Hey, Ducks isn't here to give her opinion.

monster 10-17-2011 09:22 AM

Another successful thread derailment brought to you by Teh Cellar and monster Inc. :lol:

infinite monkey 10-17-2011 09:45 AM

We get by with a little help from our fiends. ;)

Big Sarge 10-17-2011 01:16 PM

Lordy. It looks like 2/3 of y'all would just stand back and let your family be raped/murdered. Tsk, Tsk.

Remember: "A country boy will survive...."

HungLikeJesus 10-17-2011 01:23 PM

Hang on - is it a terrorist or a rapist?

I've lost the plot again.

infinite monkey 10-17-2011 01:27 PM

That's why we're not so concerned whether the country boys survive or not. They're so confusing!

Big Sarge 10-17-2011 01:28 PM

Really is a terrorist. Just an expression we use of a rapist/murdering sob. Some of the Mississippi slips out when I type

Pete Zicato 10-17-2011 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 764277)
You're walking down a
deserted street with your wife
and two small children.

Suddenly, a Terrorist with a huge knife
comes around the corner,

If I have to shoot the man, then you and the boys in blue (and the fbi and the cia) have not been doing your/their job. I shouldn't have to carry a gun.

In the mean time, I and my family will avoid deserted streets.

Spexxvet 10-17-2011 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 764436)
Just an expression we use of a rapist/murdering sob.

Oh, a klan member...

footfootfoot 10-17-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 764432)
Hang on - is it a terrorist or a rapist?

I've lost the plot again.

If you are afraid of rapists, then the terrorists have won. Now, let me tell YOU something Pendejo...


Big Sarge 10-17-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 764453)
Oh, a klan member...

Ouch buddy. That's "akin" to using the "n-word" in these parts. Plus I doubt if the Klan accepts that many Jews

Spexxvet 10-17-2011 04:32 PM

I meant the rapist/murdering sob is a klan member, not you.

TheMercenary 10-20-2011 08:56 PM

Ducks Unlimited.

infinite monkey 10-21-2011 09:20 AM

My best friend in college, a "faculty brat" whose father was a biology professor (Dr Dad, to me)...well, her dad was in Ducks Unlimited and when I first heard of it I thought it sounded so funny.

Like The Last of the Mohicans. "Hey, that wasn't the last of the mohicans. Look at all the Mohicans. It's Mohicans galore." (paraphrasing from Second City TV...it's supposed to be in this video but it's long and I don't want to watch it all right now):



Or: we're lousy with mohicans around here.

:lol:

zippyt 10-21-2011 03:35 PM

Hang on - is it a terrorist or a rapist?

This dude ,


Boom head shot , no question at ALL !!

classicman 10-21-2011 10:45 PM

WOW!

morethanpretty 10-21-2011 10:53 PM

I need a transcript...all I understood was "motherfucker."
I don't see that as a reason to need a gun, but a better police force.

ZenGum 10-21-2011 11:32 PM

0.16 ... "Djyou unastan wut ahm sayin?"

Err, not very well, but I get the impression you're a dick.

classicman 10-21-2011 11:35 PM


Big Sarge 10-22-2011 03:56 AM

the police can't be everywhere all the time!! budget cuts are causing reductions in many departments. i think the best response is a well armed populace who are not afraid to intervene when "evil rears"

Spexxvet 10-22-2011 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 766053)
the police can't be everywhere all the time!! budget cuts are causing reductions in many departments.

Hence the need to increase taxes on the 1%. Thanks for coming around, big fella. :p:



Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 766053)
i think the best response is a well armed populace who are not afraid to intervene when "evil rears"

You'd be even busier, with people shooting each other.

Lamplighter 10-22-2011 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 766053)
the police can't be everywhere all the time!! budget cuts are causing reductions in many departments. i think the best response is a well armed populace who are not afraid to intervene when "evil rears"

Oh yeah, that's what I want...
to have my local police proposing that all my neighbors be armed. :eek:

Griff 10-22-2011 08:35 AM

This urban vs rural perspective always surprises me. All my neighbors are armed and it seems important to everyone's security. If the State Police respond from the nearest barracks we're looking at 45? minutes of response time. A couple townships have gone in together on some dangerously unprofessional officers. We don't really want a police presence except for doing the paperwork after car accidents etc... It is the assumption that people are basically good that keeps us safe.

footfootfoot 10-22-2011 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 766053)
the police can't be everywhere all the time!! budget cuts are causing reductions in many departments. i think the best response is a well armed populace who are not afraid to intervene when "evil rears"

The police can be everywhere some of the time, and somewhere all of the time, but they can't be everywhere all the time.



There just aren't enough donut shops :D

Big Sarge 10-23-2011 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 766075)
Hence the need to increase taxes on the 1%. Thanks for coming around, big fella. :p:

You'd be even busier, with people shooting each other.

we'd be a lot better off if these illegals were paying taxes to help offset their abuse of federally funded programs.

Mississippi has the Castle Act (your home is your castle and you can defend it from reasonably perceived danger. it also allows you to carry a concealed weapon in your car). It is really helping with decreasing the number of home invasions, etc. We never had a bit of trouble at our farm. Any strange vehicle I met in the driveway with a gun in my hand. Word got out and we never had a break in!! Now nobody bothers us in town because they all know the crazy guy with a bunch guns lives in that house. Plus young men seem to be complete gentlemen when they take my daughters out

People shooting each other? Yep, it happens but it sure cuts down on repeat offenders!!

Undertoad 10-23-2011 07:14 AM

dude if yer wooing brits you can't talk like that

classicman 10-23-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 766081)
This urban vs rural perspective always surprises me. All my neighbors are armed and it seems important to everyone's security. If the State Police respond from the nearest barracks we're looking at 45? minutes of response time.

Totally agree.
My friends in rural areas have totally different perspectives on these types of issues than those who live in suburban or city locales.

zippyt 10-23-2011 06:04 PM

I don't see that as a reason to need a gun, but a better police force.

ok its you in the car with your kids ( future kids)
Crack head starts this shit
Flattens a tire or disables you car some how so you cant run him over
he smashes a window and grabs one of your kids

Now you can comment on needing a better Police force and how Society has failed this poor man all you want ,

me , at the first swing i would have been trying to get away/ run him over ,
but he lays a hand on a kid ,
POW POW POW , one less crack head
end of disscussion

BigV 10-23-2011 08:19 PM

Brooklyn mother dies shielding schoolchildren from gunfire


Quote:

October 22, 2011 | 8:21 am

A Brooklyn neighborhood was in mourning Saturday for a mother who died trying to shield a group of children from gunfire just after they were dismissed from an elementary school, according to news reports.

An 11-year-old girl and another parent were also hit by bullets during the Friday after-school shootings, police said.

Zurana Horton, 34, “was seen moments before she was shot hovering over several children to protect them as shots were fired,” a police report said. She died Friday at the scene. Neighbors are saying that Horton had 13 of her own children and that she might have been pregnant, NY1 said.

Family members told the New York Post that Horton had been planning to move from the crime-ridden Brownsville area of Brooklyn. “She’s getting married, but now she can’t do any of that,” her cousin told the Post. Neighbors who had gathered at her home were expressing sadness and outrage, news reports said Saturday.
Good story zippy. I feel the same way. But there are other stories that don't have a happy ending written with a gun.

classicman 10-23-2011 09:39 PM

Would that story have ended differently if she had been armed?

ZenGum 10-23-2011 09:53 PM

Today's timely coincidence:

Quote:

Guns kept at home are hurting US kids

LOADED guns left where kids can reach them may be contributing to the high level of firearms injuries to children in the US. A study this week reveals the number of such injuries is 30 per cent higher than thought.

Figures gathered from emergency rooms across the US show that around 20,000 children are injured by firearms each year - higher than earlier estimates. A further 900 incidents are fatal, says Saranya Srinivasan, a paediatrician at the Children's Hospital in Boston and co-author of the study.

The level of gun crime in the US has been falling in recent years, but firearms injuries involving children are not necessarily the result of criminal activity, says Srinivasan. For instance, 37 per cent of the children recorded in the study were hurt unintentionally. "These injuries likely could have been prevented with more careful firearm storage within the home," she says.

Some 30 million American children live in homes where there is at least one firearm. "It is important to remember that there are things we can do to prevent children from being injured with a firearm, including making sure the gun is stored unloaded and locked in a secure container," says Linda Degutis, director of the US government's National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.

"The safest place for a child is a home without a gun," says Robert Sege, a paediatrician at the Boston University School of Medicine. "But if you need one, have it locked up."
Absolutely. Children should be locked up whenever not in use. :p:

BigV 10-23-2011 09:54 PM

Quote:

The tragedy unfolded shortly after students were released from Public School 298, also known as Bette Shabazz School. The students were dispersing when a gunman on a nearby rooftop opened fire on a group of rivals, police told reporters. Horton and another mother, who was also picking up children from school, were across the street at the Lucky Supermarket when the shooting started. Horton shielded several children from the bullets.
armed with what? This? Or this?

I doubt it.

But there are those that believe differently.

BigV 10-23-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 766344)
Today's timely coincidence:



Absolutely. Children should be locked up whenever not in use. :p:

The article fails to suggest whether the children should be locked inside or outside the home.

Actually, to me, the sentence suggests that it is the house that should be locked up.

bluecuracao 10-23-2011 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyt (Post 766303)
ok its you in the car with your kids ( future kids)
Crack head starts this shit
Flattens a tire or disables you car some how so you cant run him over
he smashes a window and grabs one of your kids

Now you can comment on needing a better Police force and how Society has failed this poor man all you want ,

me , at the first swing i would have been trying to get away/ run him over ,
but he lays a hand on a kid ,
POW POW POW , one less crack head
end of disscussion

We have had a wide variety of crime in my neighborhood, but nothing like that!

The most similar incident, I think, was the woman who was yanked out of her car by a carjacker at 8:30 in the morning. Thankfully, she was OK and the police caught the perp after a few blocks.

I don't think a crackhead would ever want someone's kid (probably has plenty of his own). He would need something he could sell quickly for more crack, like your phone. You could shoot him for that, I guess...

zippyt 10-24-2011 12:05 AM

Crack head / terrorist / meth head / Pedo / Robby the fucken Robber / Dumb ass / garden Variety Bad guy
All the same when it comes to a situation like this ,

Round Here it would sound like a small WAR Happening ,
to the cops " Hell i didn't know or CARE what his deal was , I was worried about the kids "
Cops " Oh Ok , thanks for the Help "

Big Sarge 10-24-2011 07:02 AM

Let's face it. Most on here are "sheeple" who believes the government will always be there to protect them within 15-30 seconds. When in rural areas help can be 30-45 mins away.

Undertoad 10-24-2011 07:13 AM

Around here the home invasions are carefully planned around the work day so they won't inconvenience anyone. The people leave for the work day and someone puts a brick through their window, nabs a quick few things and leaves without anyone noticing (because the neighbors are at work too).

ZenGum 10-24-2011 07:30 AM

Sarge, I believe you will personally be there to protect me. I'm sure you'll manage it somehow. :)

UT, as I use the term, "home invasion" is when the residents are at home. If they are absent it is burglary. Is it different there?


The phrase "home invasion" is quite a new term, the same crime has existed for years under the name of aggravated burglary.

Oh and burgle (verb), burgled (past participle, adjective), burglar (personal noun). If someone uses burglarized then I'm upping them to burglarizerer.

Undertoad 10-24-2011 07:56 AM

Well then around here there are no home invasions, as long as you make it a rule to only deal with civilized people.

Spexxvet 10-24-2011 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyt (Post 766303)
I don't see that as a reason to need a gun, but a better police force.

ok its you in the car with your kids ( future kids)
Crack head starts this shit
Flattens a tire or disables you car some how so you cant run him over
he smashes a window and grabs one of your kids

Now you can comment on needing a better Police force and how Society has failed this poor man all you want ,

me , at the first swing i would have been trying to get away/ run him over ,
but he lays a hand on a kid ,
POW POW POW , one less crack head
end of disscussion

I'll bet that's rare. Hasn't happened to me in 52 years. Or anyone I know, probably not you. I knew someone who had his own gun wrestled away from him and used on him, killing him. I know someone who missed his one foot by inches while target shooting.

If everyone was armed, there would be increased death due to mistaken intentions (the guy took your kid because he thought s/he was in danger) and cross fire.

bluecuracao 10-24-2011 08:46 AM

I hear of home invasions occasionally in other parts of the city, but it seems rare. If they started happening all the time, more people around here might keep guns in the house. It could be that they already do keep them, just no one talks about it.

The two 'home invasions' in my neighborhood over the years resulted in the residents getting shot and killed, but word was they were drug dealers or involved in some other kind of shady business.

ZenGum 10-24-2011 10:21 PM

We have both kinds, of course, and a lot of the home invasions are related to word getting around that someone has a grow-room in their house. That and fires from amatuer wiring jobs are the main risks of cannabis, it seems.

Spexxvet 10-25-2011 07:41 AM

Guns are used on Cops, too.

Quote:

plainclothes officers who heard gunfire confronted a man with a handgun on the 600 block of East Thayer Street about 12:30 a.m. and ordered him to drop the weapon, police said.

But the man pointed the gun and fired
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/132516393.html

Quote:

Police say an officer shot and critically wounded a robbery suspect after he fired at her in northeast Philadelphia.

Officials say a gunman tried to rob a woman at the Kensington section of the city Monday and shot her in the stomach. She was taken to a hospital in critical condition.
http://www.therepublic.com/view/stor...hoots-Suspect/

bluecuracao 10-25-2011 11:19 AM

Yes, violence against cops is all too common in Philly. They get shot at, punched, hit with cars...and even get cheesesteaks thrown at them.

SamIam 10-25-2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 766344)
Children should be locked up whenever not in use. :p:

More truth in that than you may think. A little over a year ago, my neighbor was shot in the back by her son. He is now locked up after the fact.

Gravdigr 10-25-2011 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morethanpretty (Post 766023)
I need a transcript...all I understood was "motherfucker."
I don't see that as a reason to need a gun, but a better police force.

So, you would have been happy to hang out with that fine upstanding member of society until the police decided to show up?

Probably wasn't more than 15-30minutes...:eyebrow:

Gravdigr 10-25-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 766674)
More truth in that than you may think. A little over a year ago, my neighbor was shot in the back by her son. He is now locked up after the fact.

I remember you talking about that.


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