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Wall Street Protests
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Well, many protests start small and grow, and it takes the media a while to catch on, but this is now the most under-reported story of the year.
Here's the A(ussie)BC http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-0...?section=world Three weeks of continuous "occupation", 700 arrests, hardly any mention. This is floating around on FB, I cannot verify it. Anyone? Attachment 34290 Another person posted this: Attachment 34291 :eyebrow: If only the cellar had a New York stringer. Who wasn't completely nuts. |
Oh and another friend posted this link: which seems to be genuine.
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the Huffington Post is reporting on it.
I expect a drum circle to break out any minute now. |
The image is fake. It's not even taken in the right place.
I wish the Occupy Wall Street message was more clear. I really want them to accomplish something good. Off topic, but pissing me off (tangentially related because they are making fun of the Occupy Wall Street folks): I'm watching CNN for the first time in a couple years. Apparently you can't say "Nigger" (in reference to Rick Perry's "Niggerhead") when reporting the damn news. These folks are all such children they act sheepish even calling it the "N word." Now they've got a former astronaut "launching" kids into space to get kids excited about math and science. I bet those kids are thinking "this old dude is so lame, but at least we're on TV. Are we famous yet? When do we get to meet Lady Gaga?" |
The Washington Post has no trouble printing the word, but on NPR they were calling it "the N-word."
Edit: And it got me wondering, when I read somewhere that it was a commonplace name back in the day. There's a cliff on Monhegan Island called Black Head. (Also one called White Head.) I wonder if it used to be called Nigger Head and was sanitized. |
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I've seen and read plenty on it. Apparently there really isn't that much going on. The ones who keep claiming that it isn't being reported are the protesters.
I was reading about a week ago and trying to find out how many were there. After going thru many articles to find that info, it was reported that there were about 200 total. That number has grown quite a bit and there are things happening in other cities as well. The 700 arrests include people simply being ticketed for minor infractions. meh. The problem seems to be that they are not well organized, nor unified in what they want. There are people claiming all sorts of things from Bush/Cheney prosecutions to 4 day work weeks. |
It's an infant grassroots "thing", so it isn't actually solidified with goals yet. I've been following the twitter hashtag #occupywallstreet and TheNation's blog by Greg Mitchell on it. There are a few very informative articles on it's origins and what it isn't. Here's one.
BusinessInsider Here's another: AmpedStatus One thing about the protests and having a PR firm working for them pro-bono, is that hopefully, the average citizen will start asking questions and go inform themselves. Information and knowledge are power and way too many people just blindly buy the rhetoric they are fed by the media and those in power. |
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Its moved outside of New York.
I have the choice of going to several in Indiana. Lafayette and Indy are closer. I'm gonna call my nephew at Purdue and ask him what he knows about it. Quote:
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It is strange that there is very little media coverage (well, really not that strange), but this guy is trying to do something about it...
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Hot Damn - This guy nailed it. Im sure Fox doesn't air this one...:D
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Thanks, I was doubtful. Could be anywhere, or anywhen, or just shopped, for all I know. Hey, you think maybe the Arab spring is going to spread to the USA? You guys might have your very own democraccy movement, and take back your government from the corrupt, self-serving plutocratic theocrats that have siezed control of your country. Wouldn't than be nice? :) |
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I've been around cops doing crowd control before. One thing I can tell you is that they don't communicate consistently with the crowd. You very well could have had some cops saying that the protestors could go on the bridge, and other cops saying they couldn't and that they would be arrested if they didn't leave. A bullhorn is very loud when you are standing right next to it, but if you are 100 feet away and surrounded by a chanting crowd, that same bullhorn will be completely unintelligible.
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Somehow TheMercenary knows that crowd was not doing what they were originally told. Why do so many (including some in the press) say they were told to cross where they did? Dogmatism says it must not be true. Where are cops giving vague instructions before the crowd enters the bridge? Without that earlier video, an honest conclusion is impossible. A conclusion based in something from a bull horn that even an adjacent video can barely understand. But TheMercenary knows the crowd should have known. Only possible is that conclusion justified in a political agenda. An agenda that blames the people – not corrupt leaders – for a diminishing American standard of living. These demonstrations are justified by facts. For example, the ultra rich are getting richer. Average Americans see living standards degrading. How curious. That also happened when fiscal mismanagement – the same people - also created a Great Depression in late 1920s and early 1930s. These demonstrators are quite correct. Purpose of every business deal is for all parties to prosper. But the financial elite insist there must be a winner and a loser in every deal. Also called corruption. That is Mafioso thinking. Not how honest businesses operate. And not how businesses, that made America great, worked. These demonstrators are quite correct. The most corrupt - ie stockbrokers - are only salesmen driven by their own self serving profits. No different than ‘made men’. People who know nothing about companies or business. Productive and patriotic businesses profit when providing a better product or service. But the most corrupt, found in mass numbers on Wall Street, deny this. Stock brokers, et al find the product a necessary evil that is irrelevant to their income. That is corruption. These demonstrators are quite correct. Only the most corrupt or manipulated believe purpose of a business is its profits. Why is Ford profitable and GM not? Because Ford decided to ignore profits – to make better products. Product oriented thinking that once made America great. GM only cared about profits and management bonuses. The product be damned. So many of these business school educated and therefore corrupt auto executives did not even have driver’s licenses. These demonstrators are quite correct. The most evil among us include Republicans who refused to investigate or prosecute the scumbags who created a mythical California energy crisis. Had Oklahoma not filed charges to only embarrass the Feds, then all in Enron would have gone unprosecuted. Subverted the SEC so that even Madoff existed. The largest corruption in American history - K Street - remains unprosecuted by the same people who promote that political agenda. These demonstrators are quite correct. The purpose of a boss is to serve his employees. So that employees can then serve the customer. But so many are so evil or brainwashed by communism as to think employees must work for the boss. We all learned why this is stupid from books such as Animal Farm. Exactly why the USSR could not innovate and had to fail. Communism is what happens when socialism is corrupted by the elite and richest power brokers. When the masses work for the bosses. Or what is advocated by the most corrupt on Wall Street. And endorsed by an extremist political agenda. These demonstrators are quite correct. Financial institutions are increasing service charges rather than institute innovations that reduce cost and labor. How many decades has the smart card existed all over the world? And still not found in America because financial institutions fear innovation. Their purpose is profits - service charges if necessary. Not better products and services. So many are so brainwashed by financial elitists as to even believe that the purpose of a business is its profits. After all, that is the purpose of the Mafia, the communist party, and other anti-American organizations. So TheMercenary blames the people rather than the most corrupt who get rich at the expense of common Americans. These elites use Rush Limbaugh to tell our wacko extremists how to think. Those demonstrators are quite correct. More responsible business leaders (ie Schmidt of Google) do not even make $1 million a year. But the most corrupt (cheered on by people such as TheMercenary) are elite rich with incomes increasing at 40+% annually. American workers suffer dropping incomes. A drop that started when George Jr gave tax cuts to the rich. So we blame union and other workers? Only the wacko elite blame workers. No wonder the most wacko extremists also wanted Social Security into the stock market. The elite ultra rich would have been even richer. Wacko extremists are told what to think rather than question a corrupt leadership. Leaders who tell them (ie via Rush Limbaugh) what to think. Blame the evil workers who are quite justified in their protests. Instead we blame demonstrators because they cross a bridge in the wrong place. |
What, no WMD's?
You're slippin. |
Hey, at least it is in paragraphs.
Back to the protests ... What are they saying? It isn't clear - many different voices - but there are a few recurring themes: There is too much corporate influence in politics (although I'd say it has got to the stage where calling it "influence" rather than "ownership" is debatable). Because of this power imbalance, wealth has been and is being redistributed toward the very rich, to the great detriment of the rest of the population and to the economy itself. The current design of our financial system gives too much reward for short-term risk taking (with other people's money) and not enough for productive innovation, which is the cause of the most recent crisis. |
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er, I mean, that's Class Warfare!! |
Hush, comrade.
The lower 99% got Pearl Harbored at least 30 years ago. Get with the plot. ;) You know, the commie plot. Ba-dum Tshh! |
Mass Arrests
Apparently, this tactic of "kettling" or "trap and detain" has been used previously by law enforcement. This involves leading or allowing or even forcing protesters into a position from which they cannot retreat and then arresting them en masse. As the PD had called for arrest buses from Rikers PRIOR to the arrests, I think this was all planned out. That's just my opinion based on videos and interviews I've seen and read. |
They're planning to expand to Philadelphia. I may just have to participate. Maybe I'll participate from a bar or something.
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British police have come under heavy criticism over the years for kettling. I've experienced it on a number of occasions. It's really quite scary.
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I've read a few European newspapers. In my experience they tend to actually use offensive words when that's the fact of what was said or posted. I admire cultures that are mature enough to face facts. Also, saying "N word" is not meaningfully different than saying "nigger" to me. It's still invoking an offensive (in the context) word. If they wanted to be considerate they wouldn't specify which racial epithet was part of the place name. Saying something like "... a place name containing a racial epithet ..." is sufficiently descriptive while truly being removed from a word that is offensive in the first order. I would prefer it if they'd just use the word without varnishing it. |
I'm thinking of going to Occupy Philly tomorrow.
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I think the best thing that can happen at this point is for all of the people on Wall Street to walk off the job in protest at the protests and shut down trading on the international markets for a week and see who suffers first....
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Here is the FB page for Philly ...
http://www.facebook.com/OccupyPhiladelphia And an update on the situation from 30 mins ago Quote:
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I love how this has turned into something akin to the WTO protests. Not one damm unified group but a bunch of wacko extremists (think tw) who have no clue as to why the person next to them are there. Really, Wall Street needs to turn off the lights and see who fails first...
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Are you watching faux news again for your "occupy wall street" information, Mercy? ;)
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Did they start to cover them yet? I was flipping channels and while CNN and PMSNBC both had coverage, Faux had squat. (I had to tell my parents what it was earlier this week) :/
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Because NYC only allows amplified sound with a permit, OWS is employing the 'human microphone' for public service announcements, meetings, and speeches. It has its flaws, but its totally organic nature adds to the esprit de corps among the protesters.
Here is an example. |
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Understand that to a liberal, the conservatives are all a bunch of ditto heads who take their marching orders from the mother ship. It's all about perspective. |
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Yeh, I saw that Stormie. I was kinda 1/2 joking.
Same was true with Steve Jobs death. They probably didn't want to interrupt the O'Reilly rerun for something important. |
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I think I'm going to create an "Occupy Cortez" page on FB myself. What the hell. @Classic - NPR has been giving some pretty good coverage. "Occupy Wall Street" was their lead story last night. |
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Locally there has plenty on right now since its happening here as well. I'm gonna meet a friend and check it out this afternoon. |
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I'm so sorry -- but I always find the snark "faux news" to be stupid, because "faux" is pronounced "foh", with a long o.
similarly "Koch" is pronounced "Coke" and not "cock". that is all |
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Maybe the snark should be changed to "pox news."
Edit: Or "Lox News." But that's a little fishy. |
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It isn't a homophone or a homonym, but it reflects the nature of the beast. I didn't know that anyone read the words Faux News and heard Fox in their head. Then again, I had meme down as memm, thinking it was based on the French for "the same", so I'm not reliable in internet pronunciation :) |
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Apologies to Dickens |
'course then you've got to let Merc go on the "Demoncrat" thing even though it's a meme of one.
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Several protestors were arrested here at Occupy Seattle. The offense was "camping", they set up tents in the square, and that's not allowed. Otherwise, we're good to go.
I believe I'll stop by tomorrow as I'll be in the neighborhood and I have more time than money. |
Love this guy. His interviews went viral instantly.
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The Man with the Golden Tongue.
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you rang?
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CULTUREPHILE: PORTLAND ARTS
Posted by: Anne Adams on Oct 06, 2011 at 05:50PM On the first day of an indefinite “occupation” of downtown Portland, here are 45 messages that protesters wrote on their placards. Here are some: THIS IS OUR VOICE, THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE STOP FORECLOSURES TAX THE RICH WE THE PEOPLE; TOO BIG TO FAIL AMERICA, STOP PAYING CRIMINALS TO STEAL FROM YOU [BANK LOGOS] FIGHT GREED CAPITALISM IS A PYRAMID SCHEME THE JERK STORE CALLED; THEY’RE OUT OF CEO’S [SEINFELD REFERENCE] THEY TOOK OUR JERBS [SOUTH PARK REFERENCE] STOP THE WAR ON WORKING PEOPLE DEBT IS SLAVERY END CORPORATE PERSONHOOD WALL STREET GAMBLERS CRASHED THE ECONOMY, NOT AMERICAN WORKERS YOU’RE AFTER THE WRONG GOLD HOLD WALL STREET RESPONSIBLE WPA NOW! REAL REFORM IF THE SYSTEM IS ONLY WORKING FOR 1%, THE SYSTEM ISN’T WORKING END CORPORATE WELFARE THE 1% CREATED THE PROBLEMS, THE 99% WILL CREATE THE SOLUTIONS WAGE PEACE ... Quote:
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Go, Portland! Your mayor is named "Sam Adams"? How cool is that?
Oh, and we all know "faux" means "fake." But if someone dislikes the French, there is always "foxed" which refers to pages of a book ruined by stains (yellow journalism, anyone?) and is an old slang term for "drunk." |
This morning the local media has begun fomenting a confrontation
between the "Occupy Portland" and the "Portland Marathon". The annual PM has about 14,000 runners, and took out a permit last year to use Lonsdale Square all day today. The OP is conciliatory to sharing the Square and supporting the PM runners and it's volunteers. The PDX police say the OP has been quiet and peaceful all night. Local TV sees this as an opportunity for a media event by asking provoking questions about who has the "rights" to the Square, and what is OP going to do IF... |
Mayor supports protestors
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I fail to see why 'fuck all' is any more offensive than 'sweet fanny adams'. But that's because I don't have a revulsion response to the word 'fuck'. If I did, I would find the euphemism far more palatable. Apparently. |
Love those messages. The first one put a lump in my throat.
Made me think of the old protest song, The Land. Quote:
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Also, I had to re-read it twice but I think Spexx was making an attempt at ironic humor but used the wink smiley instead fo the ironic humor smiley. |
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