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Undertoad 01-11-2011 04:43 PM

My new web development business
 
Token Internet Marketing launched today. I haven't even perfected the website to the point where I can show it... but after a few weeks of startup work, we launched.

The concept is cheap websites for neighborhood businesses, because the time is now for them to do this, for various reasons.

My biz partner was able to do 1.5 hours of sales work today and the first report is that it will be very successful. The next month will tell us just how successful.

Cellar.org is on the portfolio so I thank you for that.

limey 01-11-2011 05:16 PM

No, I think you'll find it is we that thank you for that!
And the Best of British luck to youse, by the way!

HungLikeJesus 01-11-2011 05:22 PM

Now I'm thinking about pizza.

I guess it works.

Clodfobble 01-11-2011 07:50 PM

When the website is ready, make a note in this thread, because I find it highly irritating when local businesses don't have a web presence, and I'd like to encourage them your way if I can.

monster 01-11-2011 08:10 PM

Hell yeah, me too

zippyt 01-11-2011 09:25 PM

Good Luck with this UT !!!

Undertoad 01-12-2011 10:28 AM

Thanks. I figured it should have its own thread, and I figured this (Cellar meta) was as good a place as any for it... ah, maybe a little inappropriate... ah but the Cellar server shares physical and network space with the server for this venture, so there ya have it.

It is SO encouraging to see the first round of sales turn up so well. My biz partner is doing all the sales, and we are wagering whether he can sell more sites than I can produce, with both of us going full-time. If yesterday's result turns up work at the same rate per hour, he wins -- and the business probably succeeds, we then just work on ironing out little glitches in the model.

Pico and ME 01-12-2011 10:44 AM

Quote:

we are wagering whether he can sell more sites than I can produce
Just like that beer commercial! (Or maybe it was for a credit card)

Congrats and good luck on this new adventure.

kerosene 01-12-2011 05:55 PM

I think it was a commercial for a credit card about brothers starting a beer company, right?

I think it is wonderful news, UT. I would be happy to pass your website around to those who need sites.

Pico and ME 01-12-2011 06:24 PM

Eh, I typed adventure when I meant venture, but who knows maybe this will lead to one.

Happy Monkey 01-12-2011 06:29 PM

Where's that blog about crazy web designer clients?

Good luck!

Undertoad 01-15-2011 10:46 AM

After 2.5 days of sales, Token Internet Marketing has 1 completed sale and 20 very qualified leads requesting return visits, out of which half will be sold websites by the end of next week.

"Candy from a baby," said my biz partner.

"Coffee is for closers only," said I.

Clodfobble 01-15-2011 11:38 AM

Sweet! Go Tony and Ken!

TheMercenary 01-15-2011 11:49 AM

Great news UT. I hope you make a killing on it. You deserve it.

Griff 01-23-2011 04:09 PM

Sweeet!

Undertoad 02-16-2011 10:17 AM

Token Internet website launch

I'm very proud of my branding work.

We have 8 sales so far, things are proceeding a little slower than I'd hoped, but they are proceeding enough to be optimistic.

smoothmoniker 02-16-2011 12:42 PM

Congrats! Here's to your first 100 sales, and another 100 after that.

Nirvana 02-17-2011 06:19 PM

Awesome! Break sales records in the future! :D

SteveDallas 02-19-2011 01:15 PM

It looks great, though I'm not sure I'd tout the Cellar banner as an example of "tasteful design." (Fabulous, yes, very appropriate, yes, tasteful....?)

Happy Monkey 02-23-2011 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 705258)
Where's that blog about crazy web designer clients?

Here's one. Best of luck!

Undertoad 02-28-2011 12:04 PM

My buddy's pawn shop site, preliminary:

http://tokeninternet.com/olneypawn.com/

Five Cellar Points to the first person to give the specific name of the color of the background. Not enough to say where you saw that color... you must NAME it

Man if you had told me, 25 years ago, that I would be doing graphic design half the time for a living... I never ever ever EVER would have believed it.

Undertoad 02-28-2011 12:09 PM

BTW I submitted one to Clients From Hell from my previous web dev business. It goes a little something like this:

Me: "Well, here's your completed site. You know, you got a great deal. From all the changes you requested, we've done about twice the amount of hours of work that we originally estimated."

Client (cheerfully): "Oh! Well that's okay, we underpaid you, but we overpay other vendors too, so it all kind of works out in the end!"

monster 02-28-2011 12:15 PM

Wait, Sundae Girl's a pron star?

monster 02-28-2011 12:16 PM

Color is cellar-monkey blue

Undertoad 02-28-2011 12:17 PM

She doesn't realize there's a whole Philadelphia neighborhood named after her!! Fame in our midst and all that!

monster 02-28-2011 12:19 PM

She should get free flights there just for that! She could do celeb appearances and open envelopes and things.

Shawnee123 02-28-2011 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 713737)
My buddy's pawn shop site, preliminary:

http://tokeninternet.com/olneypawn.com/

Five Cellar Points to the first person to give the specific name of the color of the background. Not enough to say where you saw that color... you must NAME it

.

It's either 6-ball green, Master's Jacket green, Bluegrass green or Really Tasty Weed green.

You know, I thought I could sneak it out of "source" but I didn't see any numbers corresponding to colors. I know very little about that sort of stuff though. Also, there needs to be a website where you copy a bit of color and insert it into the website and get back the closest color to what you entered. I sure looked for one.


Oh, and also...looks good UT!

Undertoad 02-28-2011 01:57 PM

Hee hee that's some really good thinking Shaw, but it's in the CSS source!

But I'll just give you the number: it's RGB #004953. (Also known as Pantone 316.)

Shawnee123 02-28-2011 01:58 PM

I found the css thing and saw on a website I needed that. HOld on I'll be right back!

Shawnee123 02-28-2011 02:02 PM

Midnight (eagle) green? Or Sherpa Blue?

I'm so confused.

Where have I seen it before?

Undertoad 02-28-2011 02:04 PM

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Midnight (eagle) green
Correct! And the eagle is...

http://cellar.org/2011/philaeagles.jpg

I have always been enamored of the Eagles' choice of color. But I didn't use silver and black on the pawn site, because that would be too obvious...

Pete Zicato 02-28-2011 02:06 PM

Almost, but not quite Rich Black?

Shawnee123 02-28-2011 02:07 PM

D'OH! :facepalm:

I also ran across an Islamic Green and was all like WTF? :lol:

Very cool!

Pete Zicato 02-28-2011 02:10 PM

Ok, so what is #003943?

Shawnee123 02-28-2011 02:17 PM

Cyprus. [/newexpert] ;)

http://chir.ag/projects/name-that-color/#003943

Undertoad 02-28-2011 02:19 PM

Well if you make the outer background the same color, the context of the site doesn't stand out, so I decided to go "10 darker".

Shawnee123 02-28-2011 02:22 PM

Is that like "1 louder"?

Undertoad 02-28-2011 02:38 PM

It is!

Spexxvet 02-28-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 713762)
Almost, but not quite Rich Black?

He prefers to be called Rick.

Undertoad 03-29-2011 02:41 PM

I've built 12 smallbiz websites at this point, a number I'd hoped would be much larger but hey! We will see how the cookies crumble, or whatever. My design skills improve over time and these sites are on the order of two hours design per page. They could look better with eight hours... ah but this is how it goes. Anyway they look better than the competition for these types of business, which is the point.

http://tokeninternet.com/ccsteaks
http://ginasbestnailsalon.com
http://tokeninternet.com/bridal2000shop.com
http://cadwaladerservicecentre.com
http://tokeninternet.com/hairconnection
http://poinsettiadrycleaners.com
http://santillisauto.com
http://wilkinsonstire.com

infinite monkey 03-29-2011 02:59 PM

They all look very nice. Do some of them not have domain names, so they have to be on yours? (Is that even what it's called?) Does this cost you, or them?

Undertoad 03-29-2011 03:04 PM

Thanks! They are "in the process" if they are under my domain name... usually waiting for the customer to review it and accept the domain name they want.

HungLikeJesus 03-29-2011 06:27 PM

In Gina's Best Nails - I've never seen those kind of chairs before. Is that what the French call a bidet?

infinite monkey 03-30-2011 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 719500)
In Gina's Best Nails - I've never seen those kind of chairs before. Is that what the French call a bidet?

They'd get mad if you peed (or worse) in them.

They're for pedicures, you philistine. (I've never had a pedicure. I have monkey toes.)

HungLikeJesus 03-30-2011 08:08 AM

I thought a bidet was for washing your feet.

glatt 03-30-2011 08:13 AM

First time I saw a bidet, I peed in it. Didn't know any better. I thought it was what a urinal looked like in Europe.

infinite monkey 03-30-2011 08:14 AM

New user title.

You got Dances With Wolves, Stands With Fist, and Pees In Bidets.

Spexxvet 03-30-2011 08:17 AM

UT, do you get compensated for a click?

Undertoad 03-30-2011 08:48 AM

No

Nirvana 03-31-2011 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 719573)
I thought a bidet was for washing your feet.

You should know that takes a whore[Mary Magdalene]
[/thread hijack]

monster 03-31-2011 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 720131)
You should know that takes a whore[Mary Magdalene]
[/thread hijack]

I think this was the first song I ever learned from start to finish. Great parenting, mom. (no, I didn't call her mom)



I still sing it in the shower sometimes :rolleyes:

Undertoad 04-08-2011 10:40 AM

Going to client review today is the place where I et those clams: http://tokeninternet.com/trevi

This one is weird, because I attempted to set the menu up with the same font that they used for the print menu. This involved a state-of-the-art practice known as font embedding; before showing the website, the browser downloads the font it's set in.

But that means it doesn't work in IE, because Microsoft set out to make embedded fonts work in a different way from the rest of the world.

Fuck Microsoft!

Undertoad 04-08-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my biz partner
Tony, he fucking LOVED IT!!! I wish I had a tape recorder so you could hear all the nice things he gushed. More than twice he said he wasn't expecting it to be as great as it was. He's already gearing up for more work, and I quoted prices from our new carte. I literally laughed all the way to the bank, where his check is now safely deposited. Yay.

Adding icing to that sweet, sweet cake was the Yellowbook guy standing over our shoulders as I demoed. He had, no surprise, nothing to say. In fact, the guy slapped him down at one point, saying "Don’t even try. You can't match this, or the price they're charging." I overheard that the YB guy’s charging Trev $7K for a YB ad, so I added my own dig, "And it won't cost you $7K." Sinful.

http://cellar.org/2011/fuckyea.gif

monster 04-08-2011 04:11 PM

:thumb:

Clodfobble 04-08-2011 04:52 PM

Hey UT, do you guys have like a little flyer or business card or something? I keep going to various retail places and thinking about you guys, but I don't know what to tell them other than to go to the website, and I'm sure they forget right after I leave.

Undertoad 04-08-2011 05:58 PM

We do have this but right now it's completely focused on presenting a "leave behind" after a salesperson visits. Let me get back to you, I will be developing a shorter piece. And thanks!

Flint 04-08-2011 07:05 PM

May I suggest, as part of your "mission statement," you adopt the Union Plumbers Guarantee.

Undertoad 05-07-2011 05:55 PM

What the competition did for them

My alpha version, to replace it

Sometimes ya gotta just tell somebody, and you're convenient, dwellars...

Griff 05-07-2011 06:01 PM

You kicked their ass plenty.

Undertoad 05-07-2011 06:11 PM

It's not great, it's a little mussy. I only allot so much time per design.


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