What about MY feelings? I'm offended by...
 

"The world today is absolutely crackers..." sang Eric Idle. And that was 20 something years before stupid shit like this:

Plastic pig banned from UK toy set for fear of offending Jews, Muslims


I, personally, am offended by farms in general. And don't even get me started about tractors and farm equipment. I want that shit out of my toy farm set.

WTF? Their religion tells them not to eat pork. Where does it say they can't play with a pig (toy or otherwise)?

I'm against most farm equipment. Esp. combines. nasty fukkers - you could lose your arm.

I don't eat horses or tractors, they must be removed. And the farmer, although Mrs Farmer can stay.

zactly

My religion forbids me from eating cars, but yet I see a toy car in the latest Happy Meal.

I love me some boobies. I want them added to the farm set. Waaaaah!:sniff:

Not to mention her three lovely daughters...

what about toy dogs? pound puppies, etc. all offensive! ban them! ban them, I say!

Strictly speaking, I'm pretty sure their religion says they can't even touch a pig, which is where the question of touching a fake pig might come into play. It's still a stupid question, mind you, and a stupid PR ploy for them to claim they are trying not to offend Jews or Muslims, since not once in the history of the UK has any member of the Jewish population complained about a toy pig. Which just goes to show that, like most of these types of problems, it's not a religious issue at all, but a cultural one.

The story oringated with The Sun newspaper.
This is a newspaper that has a Stunner on page 3 everyday - yes, the girls with bare titties.
It's known for inflammatory headlines and stories that burn out like a damp squib once investigated.

Interestingly, the article concludes:
That's quite a different kettle of gefilte fish.

Talk about burning out like a damp squib, way to throw a wet blanket on our righteous moral outrage.

OK folks, the thread's over. Move along. Nothing to see here.

Doncha just hate it when they do the right thing.........

Yeah, the right thing...

"Well, if you don't like the damn pig, fuck you, you don't get shit."

Oooooooooo. It's a modern day version of Fiddler on the Roof.

In the UK it's PC gone mad..
every official authority, schools or whatever seems to have lost all common sense on the basis that you must not offend anyone at anytime.
That's why schools now don't celebrate Christmas it's "Winter Festival".
But the best story that was in a local paper was about a book shop in Edinburgh old town which sells second hand old childrens books and they has this one in the window, which someone complained about and two police officers were sent to the shop to warn that although the book was written in the 30's and was no way racist a complaint was made and would the owner of the shop refrain from displaying the book in the window.

If that's the best story of PC gone mad, then your PC has not gone mad. You can't judge a book by its cover, unless it's in a window display, and the cover is all that's visible. I would absolutely oppose the removal of the book from the store (or libraries, schools, etc), but it's not crazy to ask that it not be in the window display.

Yeah, hide it behind the counter with the "men's" magazines.:rolleyes:

No, just the regular shelf. I feel the same about Doctor Doolittle. I wouldn't put it in the shop window opened to the chapter starting with the racist picture of the native king who wants the doctor to turn him white. But it is a legitimate classic, and should be available.

Do we have a thread for that?

We should have a thread for that.

Let's take a vote.

It's not only a legitimate classic, it's legal merchandise that shop is selling. If putting it in the window offends people, they can boycott that shop and spend their money elsewhere elsewhere. If enough people do that, the shopkeeper has to make a decision whether it's better to display something else. You'd be hard pressed to find a shop window that doesn't annoy somebody in some way. Next they'll be telling the ice cream shop not to put a picture of a banana split in the window because it offends dieters, or the liquor store not to put booze in the window because it offends AA.

Aye.

Ya got to love that.

Erm... we're already gearing up for Christmas at our school. As is my sister's school, and the two schools attended by my niece and nephew.

The Christmas lights are up in Aylesbury. The ones that say Merry Christmas. And all the shops are selling Christmas presents, Christmas crackers, Christmas puddings... Even in Leicester, where Diwali is a huge event with equally decorated streets and fireworks, they have a nativity scene in the Town Hall Square.

I can only assume it's different in Scotland.

It's been well documented and reported in various press articles that Christmas has no place in multi cultural schools (and not just in the Daily mail) **chuckle**
It's a wee bit common sense we need, all faiths and cultures should get a look in but it seems that Christian or traditional festivals in the UK are looked at as we can't celebrate in the original form in case we upset other faiths.
Which has been also documented as plain nonsense by other faiths but the hand wringing of the chattering classes then wag their collective fingers and say no we can't:D

I've never heard of a school celebrating "winter festival".

It's well documented, Rhianne ;)

"You can do whatever you want, as long as you don't upset others."

"Well, what if I'm the one upset?"

"Fuck you, you don't count."

I heard something on the radio about some state or town or something trying to ban toys in 'happy' meals that didn't meet some kind of nutritional minimum.

anyone catch that?

Yeh - Its all over - here's one link.

Frisco. :rolleyes:

Doesn't the deep fried apple pie count?
I don't think you can restrict what has been proven to be non-existent.

That's not allowed, no parental decision making, the parents and children must remain victims of the system.

I knew vegetables were the cause of obesity!

I always thought it was like this:

The world has gone mad, some folk like to moan for the sake of moaning, in Scotland some schools will not let the kids make Father or Mother day cards in case it upsets the kids that don't have one but they could make cards for aunts and uncles or other members of the family.

In Happy Meals you can exchange fries for carrot sticks or a fruit bag and have no added sugar squash, organic milk or even water instead of soda. Also finshfingers are an option - lower in fat and calories than nuggets, or burger.
That seems plenty of choice to me!

Why is the teacher wandering around in her bath robe and bare feet? What kind of school is that?

Home school

You must not be from around here...

Ah.
Not the same in America?

No, here corporations have put the burden of proof that their practices are harmful on the citizens who are educated about what is good for them by the also corporate owned television shows, news outlets, and commercials. So it's really a win-win for the corporations.

With all the TV, print, and internet haranguing about kids nutrition, there's no excuse for not knowing fast food is not a good steady diet for their kids. So parents can't hide behind ignorance, they have to make the choice. But goddammit, it shouldn't be the government making that choice.

hear here!

It'll be the government who eventually will foot much of the bill for the health problems caused by poor choices, so maybe they have a vested interest.

We are trying to complete the transition away from trans fats though.

McDonald's may not offer fish fingers yet but they do offer apples if you look at the small print. That would be someplace under their new designer coffee flavors. lol

Many other fast food places offer fruit smoothies, some of the McDonald's too.

I could be wrong, but I'll guess their "fruit smoothies" are loaded with sugar and calories.

Isn't that why we eat - for the calories? Otherwise we could just have water.

I wouldn't know. I make my own.


I like water :)

A partially-libertarian system doesn't work. Like Spexx said, as long as my tax dollars are going to pay for their emergency triple bypass, and their child's type II diabetes meds, I vote that they don't get to eat pure unadulterated bullshit. Or that it at least has to be a little harder for them to make that choice.

To put it another way, isn't this kind of like saying that it should be the blue-collar workers' choice whether they want to work in a factory that adheres to safety guidelines?

The fruit smoothies were pure as the driven initially because they were in fact 'INNOCENT', practically sacred to foodies because they were totally uncontaminated by sugars and or preservatives or additives. However, the keepers of the flame rose up and wailed as one when Innocents went on sale in the golden archways alongside the deep fried apples.

I understand that Innocent have since been bought (sold out to?) Pepsi.

Just been told it was sold to Coca Cola in April iof this year

Well Spexx is a left wing socialist liberal, so I'd expect that. Pure unadulterated bullshit? I suspect your regimen has separated you from reality. While the food isn't the healthiest, it's far from poison. The numbers I've seen for McDonald's, say only a very small percentage eat there more than once a week, and most say they don't even eat there once a month. Obviously McDonald's isn't the problem, it's what they are eating at home. It's the parents who are responsible, and should be accountable. Are you suggesting the government should make supermarkets remove all cookies, ice cream, prepared foods, candy, etc? Hell, why not outlaw home kitchens, set up chow halls, and make everyone eat there.

Will whoever is peeing in xoB's path please stop !

We need him to return to his old lovable self.

You are missing the point of the whole exercise. If you restrict corps like McD or ADM from creating all these medical "problems" (that's problem for you, possibilities for them) then how will the medical industry continue to be a 3 trillion dollar per year concern? We are just grist for the mill. As long as we can keep cranking out babies, and we seem to be doing pretty darn well at it,all things considered, there will always be more grist for the mill.

This really isn't about humans. Just follow the dollars.

Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun. That is nothing but good nutrition.

You are assuming people used intelligence to also know Saddam did not have WMDs. Facts said so. But an overwhelming majority only hear and only believe what propaganda tells them to believe. Facts be damned. Because of how people think (as proven here by Saddam's WMDs), almost everyone would *know* that list is nothing but best nutrition. We are told so every day even on TV kid shows. It must be true.

For your assumption to be true, you must explain the so many Cellar posts in 2002 and 2003 that believed WMDs when hard facts said otherwise.

The Cellar: We never let facts get in the way of a good story.

oops wrong thread.

UT was about to put that atop the home page. If he does, is it now called plagiarism?

It you donate to the Cellar, is it called a tax writoff to a non-profit organization?

Non profit is not sufficient, it has to be charitable, so forget it.

Don't like being called out on blatant lies?

I'm confused about the problem.
As I said, here in the UK there are healthier choices available. That didn't come from a Government edict, it came from public pressure. In the same way McDonalds salads did, and only using British and Irish beef did.

The bottom line is that now parents can choose. Nothing stops an overweight five-year-old having a hamburger, fries and a McFlurry five days a week. Nothing but his parents. And believe me, many parents (and Grandparents) do choose the healthier options. The kids don't know any different - they love the Golden Arches and the plastic tables and the toys and they think they are getting away with something!

Despite National Insurance and nationalised healthcare meaning we all pay for "potential healthcare issues", that's the point of living in a representational democracy. People have paid for my depression, for my ongoing issues with alcohol, for the fact I take a PPI which is mostly due to my own poor lifestyle choices.

I honestly don't know if I support local government intervention - I prefer help and support rather than punitive measures. But I can't see why something that assists positive choices (ie along the same lines we have in McDonalds UK) can really be seen as Draconian. Until people's BMI is measured before they are allowed in the door - been advocated by diet extremists - I figure giving choice is not taking away freedom.

Thanks for the dismissive comment.

How many people in this cellar smoke?


I don't want to pay for their triple bypass surgery, either.

It's always the foodie, alkie or druggie with you people- you never talk about smokes. tsk tsk.

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