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xoxoxoBruce 10-17-2010 10:43 AM

Is Boobies a 4 Letter Word?
 
Apparently some teachers and school administrators do.
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A $4 rubber bracelet meant to raise breast cancer awareness has done that and more: Students nationwide are wearing the "I ♥ boobies" wristbands, and running afoul of school administrators.
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Kollin West, a 14-year-old student at Laramie Junior High School, is one student who got in trouble over the bracelets. The ninth-grader began wearing his bracelet after noticing the number of women being treated for breast cancer at a hospital where his father was undergoing chemotherapy for testicular cancer.
"I just thought it would be a good idea to support breast cancer," said West, who also wears a bracelet that says, "Check Yourself."
School officials objected, ordering West to wear his "boobies" bracelet inside-out because they considered the bracelet's wording inappropriate. West pointed out that girls at his school, the local high school and even an elementary school were wearing them without a problem.
I can see both sides of the issue, but their solution boggles my mind.

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School officials ultimately agreed to allow him to wear it except in the presence of two teachers - one a victim of breast cancer and another who lost a relative to the disease - who found the "boobies" reference objectionable.
Those two teachers, of all people, should be 100% for any campagn to beat this scourge.
Fuck Cancer.

morethanpretty 10-17-2010 11:07 AM

There needs to be a fuck cancer wristband campaign.

footfootfoot 10-17-2010 11:37 AM

And on the inside of that wristband it should say "Not with your dick and Mike pushing"

wolf 10-17-2010 01:39 PM

Is there an African Americans and the N-word element to this? Only dudes couldn't wear the wristband right side out?

classicman 10-17-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty (Post 688736)
There needs to be a fuck cancer wristband campaign.

There is - Too many are offended by their own perceptions instead of the real meaning ....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3529/...9a20684c0d.jpg

monster 10-17-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 688734)
Those two teachers, of all people, should be 100% for any campagn to beat this scourge. .

Who says they're not? How much of the money from these bands goes to the cause? An how much does using the word "boobies" instead of breasts help? If it sells bands to people who wouldn't otherwise give money, chances are it's to the people who will only buy them if they're cheap and therefore very little of those $$ end up doing any good beyond keeping the Chinese employed.

Where do we get off telling breast cancer survivors/sufferers/their relatives how they should feel about campaigns to help them? Be quiet, the grown-ups are talking and we know what's best for you? Would we say the same to child molestation victims if they found a fuck five-year-old-fingerers or banish baby-buggerers band offensive?

Some women -especially those who have had mastectomies- feel that their suffering is being trivialized and the publicity is not about raising awareness of breast cancer at all, it's about using cancer as an excuse to do something that would otherwise be deemed socially inappropriate. Using their very personal and very traumatizing cancer experience as a stepping stone for political/personal publicity aims and general money making (not fundraising).

Some women feel very incomplete after mastectomies. But they cope by looking at it in scientific terms: "it's just a diseased body part I didn't need any more...a breast..." Calling them boobies in this context and saying how important they are to everybody -especially men -and let's face it, that's who's likely to sit up and take notice of the word boobies- re-sexualizes them and makes these women feel less whole and less valued again. Not all women, necessarily, but some.

The "save the boobles" campaign suggests men sitting around feeling smug because they can think about and say boobies without their wife complaining.

Show some fucking sensitivity. if they find it offensive, why isn't that OK? They have at least had the disease -unlike all those whiners who find a mosque in NYC offensive despite the fact they live in bumfuck Tejas and never knew anyone who died there because no-one they know has ever left the county they were born in.

When will we see the "Shit Happens" toilet paper in support of bowel cancer? Will we wear brown "scented" wristbands? Will we all poop publicly to show our support for colonic well-being? Can we use it as an excuse to moon people from our cars show our assholes from our vehicles to raise awareness and not be arrested?

Here's my support for the campaign to fight middle finger cancer. :flipbird:

Aliantha 10-17-2010 05:50 PM

By using the word boobies, I get the impression they're trying to bring awareness of the disease to a younger demographic. That's usually what little kids call them when they're still nursing etc, so I guess it carries forward from that.

As to people being upset about it, I'm really surprised at the double standards around here at times. There have been references to things which I find particularly offensive and personally hurtful and yet I'm told to get over it. I'd love to know what the difference is here.

monster 10-17-2010 05:58 PM

because this is a bulletin board on the internet and you're notoriously whiny? everyone has "double standards" by your apples and oranges definition -would you give your life to save your kids -yes, someone else's kids -maybe, someone else's dog -no.......

classicman 10-17-2010 06:03 PM

There is no difference Ali. It a good thing. My sis-in-law is now the oldest living female in her family at just over 50. They have lost as least six women to breast cancer. Her daughters have been selling bands for a group they started.
She, and they think its a great way to reach a broader base. Its called marketing.
I don't see where anyone is trivializing the issue, nor do I see it as anyone telling them how to feel.

Aliantha 10-17-2010 06:03 PM

Bullshit monster. I do not whine. Why do you have to be such a bitch all the time?

monster 10-17-2010 06:04 PM

beacuse i'm notoriously bitchy.

Aliantha 10-17-2010 06:06 PM

clearly

monster 10-17-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 688798)
I don't see where anyone is trivializing the issue, nor do I see it as anyone telling them how to feel.

OMG really? :eek:

yes, I'm kidding, I'm not remotely surprised you don't get it.

footfootfoot 10-17-2010 06:21 PM

I heart knockers

monster 10-17-2010 06:38 PM

I love life.

xoxoxoBruce 10-17-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 688792)
Who says they're not? How much of the money from these bands goes to the cause? An how much does using the word "boobies" instead of breasts help? If it sells bands to people who wouldn't otherwise give money, chances are it's to the people who will only buy them if they're cheap and therefore very little of those $$ end up doing any good beyond keeping the Chinese employed.

The Keep A Breast Foundation’s sold over 2 million @ $4 a pop. I doubt very much of that is going to China. As for your assertion the majority of the money is not going to research, I'd be glad to entertain your proof.
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Where do we get off telling breast cancer survivors/sufferers/their relatives how they should feel about campaigns to help them?
"We" are doing no such thing. I questioned why these two teachers would not support a campaign to raise the awareness/support of the younger crowd, who are at the age they still think they're immortal, to the fact that this disease does indeed strike people under 40... a lot of them.
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Be quiet, the grown-ups are talking and we know what's best for you?
To the contrary, it's shut up and let the youth talk, talk to each other in their own vernacular, because all that adult talking hasn't gotten through to them.
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Would we say the same to child molestation victims if they found a fuck five-year-old-fingerers or banish baby-buggerers band offensive?
Strawman.:rolleyes:
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Some women -especially those who have had mastectomies- feel that their suffering is being trivialized and the publicity is not about raising awareness of breast cancer at all, it's about using cancer as an excuse to do something that would otherwise be deemed socially inappropriate.
There are many women who feel talking about breasts in socially inappropriate, so I'm not surprised.
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Using their very personal and very traumatizing cancer experience as a stepping stone for political/personal publicity aims and general money making (not fundraising).
I'm sure this happens, especially with politicians and celebrities, but the number of people who have even the remotest possibility of personal gain is minuscule compared to the number trying to help.
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Some women feel very incomplete after mastectomies. But they cope by looking at it in scientific terms: "it's just a diseased body part I didn't need any more...a breast..." Calling them boobies in this context and saying how important they are to everybody -especially men -and let's face it, that's who's likely to sit up and take notice of the word boobies- re-sexualizes them and makes these women feel less whole and less valued again. Not all women, necessarily, but some.
For those that have suffered this cancer, it's a very traumatic personal experience, and they cope in their own way, be it scientific terms or whatever they have to do. But this is not about them, or their trauma, this is about the disease, and trying to make youth aware of it's potential to knock on their door.
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The "save the boobles" campaign suggests men sitting around feeling smug because they can think about and say boobies without their wife complaining.
No, men say tits.
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Show some fucking sensitivity. if they find it offensive, why isn't that OK? They have at least had the disease -unlike all those whiners who find a mosque in NYC offensive despite the fact they live in bumfuck Tejas and never knew anyone who died there because no-one they know has ever left the county they were born in.
You feel I was insensitive to wonder why they were upset by this campaign? I don't think so, insensitive would be sending them an email telling them they are wrong to feel that way. Even more insensitive would be write them off as irrelevant.
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When will we see the "Shit Happens" toilet paper in support of bowel cancer? Will we wear brown "scented" wristbands? Will we all poop publicly to show our support for colonic well-being? Can we use it as an excuse to moon people from our cars show our assholes from our vehicles to raise awareness and not be arrested?
That's crazy talk.
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Here's my support for the campaign to fight middle finger cancer. :flipbird:
I love it when you rant, especially when you talk dirty.:blush:

classicman 10-17-2010 06:43 PM

I
LOVE
BOOBIES


Ladies, please do whatever you can to detect and prevent breast cancer.
And men - encourage and help the women in your life to do the same.

monster 10-17-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 688809)
No, men say tits.

yebbut, when they're married, they won't be free to talk about tits in general until the "test your tits" band comes out....



yup, I was mostly playing devil's advocate -that's why I specified some women. But I know this is how my friend feels, and I know she feels invaded when her son's friends feel it's Ok to come up and talk to her about her boobs and she is not a stuck in the 19th century prude, she's one of the most liberal and modern women I know. i think her reaction/feelings took her by surprise too.

And these women should have a say. For a start, they are more likely than anyone else to suffer from breast cancer in the future, it's not like they don't count (unless you discount women with one boob or less ...and then point made...) Have you seen the stats for recurrence? way way bigger chance of recurrence than in a previously un-booby-blighted person.

This is about Youth. Really? 'Cause they sure as heck listen. That's why there are no more teen pregnancies. Or at least fewer. Oh wait. :p:

footfootfoot 10-17-2010 07:29 PM

Oh and let's not forget the war on drugs. Now it's impossible for teens or anyone else for that matter to get a hold of drugs.

I think your friend is right to be concerned about people's assumption that by raising the awareness of a disease, that makes her having it public business. People are getting crasser and I think it has not so much to do with wrist bracelets, but still...

Tits Rule

monster 10-17-2010 07:35 PM

women with no tits are worthless.

footfootfoot 10-17-2010 07:48 PM

Now, that's a little harsh. That's like saying a black man with a small dick who can't play basketball is worthless.

monster 10-17-2010 08:00 PM

is it really?

or is that a strawman?

monster 10-17-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 688821)
Oh and let's not forget the war on drugs. Now it's impossible for teens or anyone else for that matter to get a hold of drugs.

I think your friend is right to be concerned about people's assumption that by raising the awareness of a disease, that makes her having it public business. People are getting crasser and I think it has not so much to do with wrist bracelets, but still...

Tits Rule

that was quite an edit.......

...you don't think you shoulda maybe made the rest of it a separate post?

xoxoxoBruce 10-17-2010 10:04 PM

Corvette's rule. I don't think my having one before, and not having one now, makes me worthless.

monster 10-17-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 688846)
Corvette's rule.

Someone alert the grammar nazis...

monster 10-17-2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 688846)
Corvette's rule. I don't think my having one before, and not having one now, makes me worthless.

srsly? do you feel the same about your penis?

Shawnee123 10-17-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 688808)
I love life.

Me too. Everyone should get to feel, and talk about, those things that have affected their life. Without anyone telling you that you're not feeling it correctly.

Thanks, monster, for the perspective that I hadn't thought of.

My mom is one of those breast cancer "thrivers" and yet I do not know her personal feelings on my "Save the Ta-Tas" shirt. She smiled and chuckled, but maybe I just don't know.

xoxoxoBruce 10-17-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 688852)
srsly? do you feel the same about your penis?

Can't say, still got it, but I'm comfortable with the fact that it doesn't perform like it used to. :blush:

Shawnee123 10-17-2010 10:57 PM

Insurance and Medicaid will pay for Viagra. Good luck getting insurance to pay for birth control.

:blush:

footfootfoot 10-18-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 688830)
is it really?

or is that a strawman?

No it's a reference to an old, tasteless racist joke that was popular here in the 60s and 70s. I don't imagine it would have been popular in England.

Yes, I have amazing editing skills. ;)

footfootfoot 10-18-2010 08:22 AM

Oh, and

Save the Taints!

footfootfoot 10-21-2010 11:31 AM

the fugs original:


Updated and "feminized":

xoxoxoBruce 10-28-2010 01:20 PM

At last, a much better way to check the boobies.
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Professor Zhipeng Wu has invented a portable scanner based on radio frequency technology, which is able to show in a second the presence of tumours – malignant and benign – in the breast on a computer.

Using radio frequency or microwave technology for breast cancer detection has been proven by researchers in the US, Canada and UK. However, up to now, it can take a few minutes for an image to be produced, and this had to be done in a hospital or specialist care centre.

Now Professor Wu, from the University's School of Electrical and Electronic Engineering, says concerned patients can receive real-time video images in using the radio frequency scanner which would clearly and simply show the presence of a tumour.

Not only is this a quicker and less-intrusive means of testing, it also means women can be tested at GP surgeries, which could help dramatically reduce waiting times and in some cases avoid unnecessary X-ray mammography. The scanner could also be used at home for continuous monitoring of breast health.
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The usual way of detecting breast cancer up to now is mammography, which works well for women over the age of 50 and can give results of up to 95% accuracy.

But it is far less effective for younger women. The detection rate could be as low as 60% for women under the age of 50, which accounts for 20% of all breast cancer cases.

At that stage it is even more important get accurate diagnosis. Early diagnosis and treatment could save thousands of lives.
This sounds really, really promising. (Happy Dance)

Shawnee123 10-28-2010 01:21 PM

Happy Dance Squared!

HungLikeJesus 10-28-2010 10:34 PM

I kind of skimmed through xob's post, but it said it only shows tumors in the breast on a computer, didn't it?

xoxoxoBruce 10-28-2010 10:50 PM

Yes, "real-time video images", but of course they can be recorded.

ZenGum 10-30-2010 11:59 PM

I thought that was going to end up ...

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So, ladies, on with your webcams and off with your tops, for XOBruce's personalised health service...

jimhelm 11-02-2010 01:54 PM

NSFW

http://www.forthecraic.net/flash/boobtest.swf

REAL OR FAKE?

NSFW

classicman 11-02-2010 03:07 PM

18 - pretty easy.

TheMercenary 11-03-2010 10:42 AM

14.

Spexxvet 11-03-2010 11:08 AM

17

wolf 11-03-2010 12:18 PM

14.

While I can appreciate them architecturally, I'm not a connoisseur.


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