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morethanpretty 09-18-2010 09:14 AM

Rally to Restore Sanity/March to Keep Fear Alive, 10/30/10!
 
Rally to Restore Sanity/March to Keep Fear Alive
10/30/10

Yes! Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert are both holding rallies at the in Washington DC in true satire fashion!
(Can you tell I'm excited?)

It looks like a ton of fun, I'm really torn about going. I love these guys. This could be a once in a lifetime chance, but I don't think I should spend the money getting there (plus I'd have to take off work and lose money to begin with, and I'm in school and probably will have school work to do....ugh!)

I thought I'd just make sure y'all were informed in case you do have the opportunity to go and want to.

Here
http://www.rallytorestoresanity.com/

http://www.keepfearalive.com/

Spexxvet 09-18-2010 09:21 AM

I'll go, if I can swing it.

Undertoad 09-18-2010 09:33 AM

I think it is important that I attend this event.

Pico and ME 09-18-2010 09:35 AM

I would love to go! What a hoot.

glatt 09-18-2010 12:50 PM

I fully intend to be there with the wife and kids. My son has a soccer game that day, and my daughter has the car wash, but I think this is more important. Plus, it will be fun.

The permit filed with the Park Police said 25K people are expected to attend, but these things can change.

spudcon 09-18-2010 04:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDZSXmfnDLo

morethanpretty 09-18-2010 04:41 PM

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Lets see how easy it is to take short clips of what a person says and turn them into a douchebag...sounds like a fun game to me!

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I've always felt

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like a racialist

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sick

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asshole

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.


xoxoxoBruce 09-19-2010 12:15 AM

That's why you're not writing your paper about me. :p:

richlevy 09-19-2010 06:23 AM

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I'll

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 683195)
swing

Hey, this is fun.;)

P.S. I've never seen anyone so afraid of a comedian. Also, compared to O'Reilly/Beck/Coulter, Jon Stewart is Walter Cronkite.

tw 09-19-2010 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 683350)
Hey, this is fun.;)

P.S. I've never seen anyone so afraid of a comedian.

The KKK also got angry and nasty when people laughed at them. "White Flour!!!"

spudcon 09-19-2010 11:24 PM

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I'm kinda short on

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cats

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who will lick


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assholes.


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If you would be willing to,


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I'll choose the person who has the dirtiest


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shit.

Yup, it sure is fun doing this.

morethanpretty 09-20-2010 06:25 AM

Wow, you really don't get the point do you?

morethanpretty 09-20-2010 06:33 AM

Here is the FULL interview with Jim Cramer that The Daily Show posted online for everyone to watch.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

The full interviews can't always be played at actual airing. But if you watch the actual interview rather than some chopped up youtube video of it, you'll see that Jon Stewart, as always, gave the guest due time to respond. Yes, Jon Stewart makes jokes as well, he's fucking comedian and makes this shit interesting.

spudcon 09-20-2010 07:51 AM

You don't get the point. Jon Stewart is a pompous ass who makes holier than thou points when he is actually only a satirist trying to sound like he knows more than the people he attacks.

Undertoad 09-20-2010 08:00 AM

That point is not made by that shitty video.

morethanpretty 09-20-2010 08:56 AM

Actually watch the damn videos. Especially starting on Part 3, about 6min in.

Part 3

Having an opinion does not make him a pompous ass. He is honest that is show is about the laughs for the most part, but it is a show about current events/news, there are gonna be some serious bits. IMHO, he treats his guests a lot more respectful than you see on actual news/commentary shows.

jinx 09-20-2010 09:12 AM

How is Stewart's infotainment any different than Limbaugh's? Just in style, not substance.

Pico and ME 09-20-2010 12:34 PM

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Although most people are watching Stewart for the comedy value, compared to those who listen to Rush for the editorial value, its interesting to note that Stewart attracts a more moderate/independent audience than Rush could ever hope to.

From here:

classicman 09-20-2010 12:42 PM

A much younger one as well. I'd think Rush would have to be screaming louder and louder so that those still alive listening to him could hear.

Spexxvet 09-20-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 683489)
How is Stewart's infotainment any different than Limbaugh's? Just in style, not substance.

Stewart is funny, Limbaugh is laughable.

Pete Zicato 09-20-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 683489)
How is Stewart's infotainment any different than Limbaugh's? Just in style, not substance.

I've seen just part of one Stewart show. I've heard pieces of a half dozen or so Limbaugh shows. So I'm not an expert by any means. But I bet if you put a hate-o-meter on both shows you'd see a wide difference.

Pete Zicato 09-20-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 683548)
Stewart is funny, Limbaugh is laughable.

Loved it. Pithy.

Pico and ME 09-20-2010 01:38 PM

I agree Pete. Stewart is usually making fun of those people, like Rush and Glenn Beck, who use emotionally-charged (and often hateful) political rhetoric.

TheMercenary 09-20-2010 04:04 PM

I wonder if they will have those posters of Palin painted to look like Hitler?

jinx 09-20-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 683558)
I've seen just part of one Stewart show. I've heard pieces of a half dozen or so Limbaugh shows. So I'm not an expert by any means. But I bet if you put a hate-o-meter on both shows you'd see a wide difference.

They're appealing to different audiences, but just opposite sides of the same coin imo. Limbaugh uses outrage, Stewart uses arrogance, both pretend to be telling the truth.

Spexxvet 09-20-2010 04:53 PM

From Wiki:
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Describing itself as a fake news program, The Daily Show draws its comedy and satire from recent news stories, political figures, media organizations, and often, aspects of the show itself.
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Approximately 54% of The Daily Show viewers scored in the high knowledge range, followed by Jim Lehrer's program at 53% and Bill O'Reilly's program at 51%, significantly higher than the 34% of network morning show viewers.

TheMercenary 09-20-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 683618)
They're appealing to different audiences, but just opposite sides of the same coin imo. Limbaugh uses outrage, Stewart uses arrogance, both pretend to be telling the truth.

:thumb: I can't agree more. To hold Stewart up as something to emulate would be to hold up Rush as something to emulate. Both are asshats.

spudcon 09-20-2010 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 683465)
That point is not made by that shitty video.

I think it was.

Pico and ME 09-20-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 683618)
They're appealing to different audiences, but just opposite sides of the same coin imo. Limbaugh uses outrage, Stewart uses arrogance, both pretend to be telling the truth.

I see what you did there Jinx...the outrage vs arrogance comparison. Truth is Jon is just a comic who mostly picks on the conservative side because for the last two decades they have provided much more fodder for comedy...they are just that much more ridiculously funny. I find it refreshing. The other side finds it arrogant.

spudcon 09-21-2010 12:38 AM

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Actuawwy watch the damn videos. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! Especiawwy stawting on Pawt 3, about 6min in, uh-hah-hah-hah.

Pawt 3

Having an opinion does not make him a pompous ass. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! He is honest that is show is about the waughs fow the most pawt, but it is a show about cuwwent events/news, thewe awe gonna be some sewious bits. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! IMHO, he tweats his guests a wot mowe wespectfuw than you see on actuaw news/commentawy shows. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit!
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Spexxvet 09-21-2010 08:29 AM

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Actuawwy watch the damn videos. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! Especiawwy stawting on Pawt 3, about 6min in, uh-hah-hah-hah.

Pawt 3

Having an opinion does not make him a pompous ass. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! He is honest that is show is about the waughs fow the most pawt, but it is a show about cuwwent events/news, thewe awe gonna be some sewious bits. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! IMHO, he tweats his guests a wot mowe wespectfuw than you see on actuaw news/commentawy shows. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit!
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WTF?

skysidhe 09-21-2010 08:41 AM

I don't think this thread was suppose to be funny but I'm laugh'n.

classicman 09-21-2010 11:11 AM

me too - that was a pretty funny post.
The best part is that video has been around for like a year+
and suddenly it seems to draw so much fire.

jinx 09-21-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 683658)
I see what you did there Jinx...the outrage vs arrogance comparison. Truth is Jon is just a comic who mostly picks on the conservative side because for the last two decades they have provided much more fodder for comedy...they are just that much more ridiculously funny. I find it refreshing. The other side finds it arrogant.

If'n you're not with us, you're against us, eh? Ironic.

Happy Monkey 09-21-2010 11:32 AM

What does he do that you view as arrogant?

jinx 09-21-2010 11:36 AM

His comedy style is almost entirely "Look at those morons doing stupid shit" and making a funny face. I'm not saying he's not funny, I'm just saying he's as funny as Rush is all fired up.

Happy Monkey 09-21-2010 11:51 AM

Do you also view "America's Funniest Home Videos" as arrogant?

jinx 09-21-2010 12:00 PM

Oh please. :rolleyes:

Happy Monkey 09-21-2010 12:09 PM

Then what does he do that you view as arrogant? Making fun of people who do stupid stuff isn't apparently quite it.

jinx 09-21-2010 12:14 PM

Yes, it is.
You can disagree, but comparing americas funniest home videos is retarded. It's not political and it's laughing with, not at.

morethanpretty 09-21-2010 12:14 PM

Stewart makes fun of both Republicans and Democrats. Probably why he has such a huge moderate base. His views tend to be moderate, there is NO moderation to Limbaugh. If he were the opposite of Limbaugh then he'd be purely wacko left since Limbaugh is a wacko right. Making fun of stupid shit in the media (all news programs altho primarily Fox) and politics does not make him arrogant. You're also completely forgetting about The Daily Show's writers, although Jon Stewart is the face, he is not the entirety of the show.
Rush Limbaugh is purported as a serious commentator, Jon Stewart says himself that he is JUST A COMEDIAN. How is that arrogant? He will also admit to mistakes, will admit he does not know everything, and that he could be wrong about a certain point. That is the opposite of arrogance.

Pico and ME 09-21-2010 12:14 PM

What about other comedians? Is Bill Maher arrogant too? Lewis Black?

Or how about the only right-wing comedian out there- Dennis Miller. Is he arrogant too?

jinx 09-21-2010 12:16 PM

I prefer Louis CK to any of the above.
Funny how politically polarizing Stewart the comedian is.

morethanpretty 09-21-2010 12:19 PM

IMHO, comparing Jon Stewart to Rush Limbaugh is retarded. Jon Stewart and Rush both use politics/current events for material for their show, but the mediums and presentation style are completely different. Jon Stewart and AFV both use comedy and slapstick, just different subject matter. So sure, you can compare those 2 shows just as well as Rush and Jon compare.

jinx 09-21-2010 12:21 PM

Which SIDE are you on if you don't like AFV?

Spexxvet 09-21-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty (Post 683822)
How is that arrogant?

If you don't agree with what someone says, they must be arrogant, right?

classicman 09-21-2010 12:23 PM

Their audiences are very different generationally.

morethanpretty 09-21-2010 12:25 PM

Does anyone really like AFV anymore? Hasn't youtube kinda usurped it anyway?
I guess there could still be old people who don't know much about youtube and watch AFV...

Pico and ME 09-21-2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 683824)
I prefer Louis CK to any of the above.
Funny how politically polarizing Stewart the comedian is.

My new favorite is Greg Warren. I just saw him in Indy at the Bob and Tom Comedy All Star Tour. He does a really funny bit about 1 star people in 4 star hotels.

Jinx, my point is that I find that I don't care for right-wing comedians...I find them arrogant...I really hate Dennis Miller. (Actually his style comes off as hateful to me) So it just makes me wonder if that is why you dont like Stewarts political humor, because its not your politics.

eta: I use to like Dennis Miller.

Undertoad 09-21-2010 12:28 PM

Bill Maher is arrogant as all hell.

Dennis Miller seems arrogant but actually is not.

Jon Stewart is not arrogant.

Arrogance is one of the primary qualities of the character Rush Limbaugh has refined.

Same is true for Stephen Colbert.

classicman 09-21-2010 12:28 PM

There is ZERO comparison between AFV and either of them. It is not political in any way.
That has to be the stupidest comparison made here in a loooong time.

morethanpretty 09-21-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 683836)
Bill Maher is arrogant as all hell.

Dennis Miller seems arrogant but actually is not.

Jon Stewart is not arrogant.

Arrogance is one of the primary qualities of the character Rush Limbaugh has refined.

Same is true for Stephen Colbert.

Stephen Colbert's arrogance is satire.

morethanpretty 09-21-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 683837)
There is ZERO comparison between AFV and either of them. It is not political in any way.
That has to be the stupidest comparison made here in a loooong time.

There is ZERO comparison between Jon Stewart and Rush, Rush is not a comedian in anyway.

Pico and ME 09-21-2010 12:35 PM

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...Arrogance is one of the primary qualities of the character Rush Limbaugh has refined....
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Thats what I think too, but Jinx is characterizing him as merely 'outraged', which gives it a whole different angle.

jinx 09-21-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 683835)

Jinx, my point is that I find that I don't care for right-wing comedians...I find them arrogant...I really hate Dennis Miller. (Actually his style comes off as hateful to me) So it just makes me wonder if that is why you dont like Stewarts political humor, because its not your politics.

What are my politics? As far as I know, I've got some from both sides...
Really, I just don't like infotainment in general. Takes the funny out of it for me. I say "arrogant" because as much as conservative like to be told they are morally correct, liberals like to be told they are smarter than conservatives. I just see the Daily Show as catering to that.

Flint 09-21-2010 12:36 PM

Are we saying Tom Bergeron AFV is arrogant, or Bob Saget AFV?

Because I always thought Bob Saget was like the Rush Limbaugh of Jon Stewarts.

Shawnee123 09-21-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 683842)
Are we saying Tom Bergeron AFV is arrogant, or Bob Saget AFV?

Because I always thought Bob Saget was like the Rush Limbaugh of Jon Stewarts.

:lol:

morethanpretty 09-21-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 683842)
Are we saying Tom Bergeron AFV is arrogant, or Bob Saget AFV?

Because I always thought Bob Saget was like the Rush Limbaugh of Jon Stewarts.

:rotflol:

Happy Monkey 09-21-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 683820)
Yes, it is.
You can disagree, but comparing americas funniest home videos is retarded. It's not political and it's laughing with, not at.

So it's more arrogant to make fun of politicians (and other celebrities) than non-celebrities? Is it that the AFV entries were sent in (laugh with vs laugh at; let me know if you meant something else by that)? Politicians live in public. They may not always like that someone outside of their intended audience hears a particular stupid thing they say, but not every AFV subject is the one who sent in the video.

Stewart is the "anchor" of his "news" show. He doesn't play an overt character like Colbert, or like his "reporters" or "experts" do on their segments, so he doesn't do satire along the lines of "A Modest Proposal"; he does humorous political commentary. Do you consider humorous political commentary inherently arrogant?

morethanpretty 09-21-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 683841)
What are my politics? As far as I know, I've got some from both sides...
Really, I just don't like infotainment in general. Takes the funny out of it for me. I say "arrogant" because as much as conservative like to be told they are morally correct, liberals like to be told they are smarter than conservatives. I just see the Daily Show as catering to that.

The Daily Show makes fun of BOTH sides of the aisle. How is it catering to liberals if its makes fun of them?


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