Are you ready?
 

posted this in another discussion, but this deserves a thread of it's own. UT, you totally need to start one, you could call it....the Cellar;


The complexes will be deep underground, airtight, fully self-contained shelters designed to survive virtually any catastrophe, or threat scenario including natural disasters, a nuclear blast, chemical and biological weapons, or even social anarchy. Each self contained shelter complex will comfortably accommodate a community of 172 - 200 people, in spacious quarters, for up to 1 year of autonomous survival to ride out the potential events. Every detail has been considered and planned for. Members need to only arrive before the facility is sealed and secured.

more info and application forms; http://www.terravivos.com/secure/secureindex.htm

I checked out the site. It looks like another underground movement.

what's your point?

yeah I spotted that too Einstein but refrained....

I missed you too dumbass, can't believe all the cool folk are still here.

Where are you going to get this 3 days of advanced notice that the disaster is coming? Hurricanes are the only thing with that much warning, and then you don't need to go underground, just get out of the path.

200 people in a small contained living space, with no windows, I don't think it would work for more than a couple of weeks at best.

200 people who were paranoid and wealthy enough to invest in something like this to begin with, they're gonna be great to hang out with.

Exactly. Which is why my biodome on the moon will only hold TWO, and maybe a pet.

No, wealthy people become whining maggots, under duress.:haha:

Only after the booze runs out.:D

I'm happy to relieve any tension, if'n I get a free pass...?

ETA, Glatt - many of the scenarios they suggest would indeed give you the three day notice period, assuming you had the means to get there. In other words the rich would have access to private planes and helicopters and even the middle incomes would be able to ride or off-road in a way that would beat gridlock.

Wars give a reasonable amount of notice - of course in the case of unprovoked nuclear attack you're stuffed. But anarchy (however unlikely) grows more slowly than a four minute warning, Solar Flares can be predicted, as can Killer Comets (snigger) and Super Volcanos.

I'm not fully buying into this (in a non-literal way; everyone here knows I couldn't afford to really buy into this) but there are some situations in which the super-rich could use facilities like these to protect themselves. We used to have a family plan back in the 80s in the case of The Bomb dropping. Which basically amounted to stay where you are and die, unless it was a weekend when it was stay together and die. I honestly believed what with The Bomb and the IRA I wouldn't live to see the 21st century.

But hurray! I did! And it didn't cost me any extra money to do so!

No, the food, man...the food. You don't get that big and pasty and grubworm-like just from booze you know. (He meant republicans, right?) :p:

I watched the "video" which was in fact a computer animation.
I saw no vending machines.
Maybe the 132 people include chefs and cleaners etc.
I have a chance!

I went through the site and thought about that too, mechanics tomainatain the generators etc? it shows a medical room, medical technicians ? ( i wouldn't wnat to be stuck in a closed space with most of the doctors I've known :3_eyes:)

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...omsday-bunkers

About the Vivos group. Reminds me of those wacky 50s videos on safety bunkers.

That's the catch, the problem doesn't start with the event, it starts with public notice of the event. You've got to survive the people who are not prepared.

...'cause they're mostly already dead and prolly a bit stinky by now....

Thar ye go.

First claustrophobia and darkness, then hunger and depression, followed by insanity and loneliness. Wow! This is a freak party dream!
Reminds me of "Metro 2033" somehow.

That's not what I said.

I know, I was correcting it according to my beliefs.
I will include a disclaimer next time.

Bless you, Griff. *hands griff a kleenex*

Thanks Razz.

While I by no means consider myself a "survivalist", I am into preparedness. We started getting prepared shortly after 9-11...when a lot of like-minded people probably got started. My wife and I both have a "Get Home Bag" (GHB) in our vehicles. It contains the everyday items you would need in case of emergency (flashlight, first-aid kit, etc.).

However, a Get Home Bag goes a few steps beyond. In addition to the above, ours have a rain poncho, thermal blanket, knife, multi-tool, cordage, fire starting supplies, compass, whistle, signaling mirror, gloves, small amount of food (granola bars and peanut butter crackers), two bottles of water and other items.

It is essentially what it says...supplies to help you survive until you can get home.

Other than the GHB, we have a BoB (Bug Out Bag) in case something drastic happens close to home and we have to flee in a hurry. It has many more things that will enable us to survive for a longer period of time...even in the woods. Examples are: mess kits, big first-aid kit, sleeping bags and mats, a tarp for a makeshift tent, tent stakes, water purification, quite a bit of food and much more. That would only be for a drastic event.

Being prepared does not necessarily mean you are planning for another terrorist event or a zombie apocalypse. There are many other local and regional scenerios...flood, earthquake, hurricane, train derailment with toxic release (I have tracks kind of close by). Hell, if the government is telling you to have certain things on hand....(www.ready.gov)

Does you BoB include homeowner's insurance and other important papers that you would need if your house (and maybe car) is destroyed? Where we live, our biggest threat is wildfire, and I used to keep a lot of important papers in a portable file box near the front door. On those occasions when there was a big fire nearby I would move that box to work.

I haven't updated those papers in a few years.

Yes, HLJ. I didn't list every single thing or I'd still be typing. But, those are pretty important thing to list...I agree :D

That also includes important papers, medications and pistols and ammo in a separate duffel bag.

How big is that bag dmg? :eyebrow:

My bag: bass strings, nine-volt batteries, hex wrenches, power outlet tester, diagonal cutters, duct tape, cables and assorted connectors. I'm ready to jam out in any jam-related emergency.

That's not my bag, baybay.

My bag: beer, cigarettes, wine, various other smokeables, books, soap, shampoo, coupla cans of chef-boy-ardee. That's about it.

You go to that .gov link, and they tell you that you need a gallon of water per person per day for three days MINIMUM. So my go "bag" is supposed to have 12 gallons of water in it, that's before everything else. I guess I need to buy a tanker truck.

These catastrophes would significantly lower my post count unless the networks are built underground. I can't buy in to any lack of communications during catastrophic events. You, I have to know where my mom is...
Chances are- if I did not know- I would not be underground unless that was her location.

In other words: I would be one of the idiots in the film "that goes out there" in search of others.

I'm glad we got a Colbert link, as the first thing that came to mind is the 2012 zombie resurrection and attack.

We've gone over the BOB idea in the cellar before so I won't go into a lot of detail. The water issue is a big one though. Are there any creeks, rivers, or lakes near you? Then you BOB should have some water in it, but you should also have a sufficient supply of water purification options with you. I live in the freaking desert and even here I wouldn't have a problem if my water stores were running low.

You're in :D

Thanks, I appreciate that. :biggrinlo

I always tried to be a positive influence on people wherever I go. :rolleyes:

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Back on topic though. After all... the Internet IS serious business.

If there were to be some catastrophy/e (that's a tough word to spell for an old stroke-prone guy like myself)... I'd just wander around like one of those decrepid characters you see on full lenght feature films like "The Book of Eli" (I'd be the guy who got shot and eaten) or, if I'm lucky, I might hook up with Woody Harrelson and we could kill Zombies. Now I could deal with that.

If this world as we know it goes to shit. I wonder if Obama will run for President again? Hell, I'd probably even vote for the idiot this time around - couldn't do any worse.

Oops... Sorry, this isn't the poiltical forum. Me bad...

Pretty big. But I can carry it comfortably.


http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x5/dmg1969/BoB.jpg

Glatt, I believe that's if you are staying put at home.

Yes, there are two...a stream and a river. I have a small supply of water purification tablets. After that, it's filtering and boiling or catching rainwater.

I'm operating under the assumption that all open water will have dead bodies decomposing in it.

MMMM, meat-flavored water. I like the sound of that.

Right. You can never assume that water is clean. It may look clean where you're at but, as you said, you can have rotting animals further upstream or they could be using it as a toilet.

Seems pretty posh to me...I mean I've spent up to 77 days on a submerged submarine - no sun, fresh air, women, booze, radio, live TV, intwerwebz, or fresh veggies, fruit, milk, or eggs. Just give me women or booze and I could make it a year easy. Give me both and then I could easily double that. :D

All ground and sea water is animal toilet.

and condom, spitoon, hair and dead skin cell collector....