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monster 05-28-2010 09:17 PM

Fridge/Frig/what in US? HELP! QUICK!
 
I made some ceramic refridgerator magnets to sell as a fundraiser for the pool on Opening Day (tomorrow). We Brits would spell the abbreviation "fridge" but I see "frig" a lot over here (which is sort of a swear word in britenglish). So what abbreviation should I use?

Cloud 05-28-2010 09:37 PM

Fridge is fine. frig means something else here too, but there are unlikely to be misunderstandings in context

monster 05-28-2010 09:48 PM

thanks :) It's weird that in the land of fast everything, refridgerator is abbreviated less often than in the UK. NO-ONE says refridgerator there. I bet most British children don't even know fridge is an abbreviation.

squirell nutkin 05-28-2010 10:17 PM

Whoever says frig is an abbreviation for fridge is out of their fridging mind.

jinx 05-28-2010 10:21 PM

What the frig?

lumberjim 05-28-2010 10:26 PM

fridge fo sho

monster 05-28-2010 10:34 PM

thanks all, you make me happy.

Cloud 05-28-2010 10:36 PM

just out of curiosity, what exactly is y'alls' understanding of the word, "frig?" To me, it means, um . . . digital penetration of the vagina.

A quick perusal of ze Internets shows other definitions: masturbation (not exactly what my meaning is); or some kind of bowlderization of "fuck,"

monster 05-28-2010 11:16 PM

when I was a kid I learned it meant bugger (as in male to male anal sex), but in UK when I left, was most commonly used as a "polite" alternative for "fuck": "what in the frigging hell was that?"

Cloud 05-28-2010 11:21 PM

huh. that's interesting; I would say it doesn't apply to male anatomy at all

wolf 05-29-2010 12:23 AM

Fridge is short American for refrigerator. Or icebox.

Frig is Freya's brother, right?

ZenGum 05-29-2010 02:06 AM

Could Frig frig Freya's icebox?

JuancoRocks 05-29-2010 03:31 AM

Guardian Frigerator Company developed the first stand alone refrigerator in the US in 1916 and became Frigidaire in 1919 and a part of General Motors at that time until they sold in it in 1979.

Up until that time most refrigeration was accomplished with iceboxes.

Many people still call any refrigerator a Fridge and really have no idea why they do nor where the name came from..
Kinda like Kleenex, Kotex, Big Tex etc.:D

Thank you Mr Peabody......

Cloud 05-29-2010 08:30 AM

I contest that, because "fridge" is a logical shortening of refrigerator. I still call it the icebox sometimes, 'cause that's what my parents called it often. But I'm most likely to simply call it the refrigerator. Said really fast!

ZenGum 05-29-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 659229)
I contest that, because "fridge" is a logical shortening of refrigerator.

I mostly agree ... but where does the D come from?

Cloud 05-29-2010 07:45 PM

well, not from Guardian Frigerator Company. from pronunciation?

HungLikeJesus 05-29-2010 07:58 PM

From fridgid?

monster 05-29-2010 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 659197)
Fridge is short American for refrigerator. Or icebox.

Frig is Freya's brother, right?

That's what i thought, a Quick google a few days ago only gave me Frigg as Odin's wife....

wolf 05-30-2010 01:17 PM

Fridge, with a consonant pair indicates a "short" i pronunciation.

Frige, single consonant followed by the silent e would be "long" i. Fr-eye-ge. (to rhyme with fries)

Glinda 05-30-2010 01:34 PM

I think the main problem here is that America is full of people who have no clue how to spell. "Frig" is their way of spelling "fridge."

As for the "d" - there seems to be a legitimate spelling rule:

Quote:

Why is there a "d" in "fridge", but not in "refrigerator" or "refrigerate"?

What happens is this: when you shorten "refrigerator" to the one-syllable "fridge" you move the "g" from the beginning of a syllable (re-fri-ger...) to the END of one.

In English, g is often "soft" (sounding like "j") at the beginning of a syllable, before e, i or y (germ, "giraffe, gyrate).

But at the END of a syllable/word it doesn't quite work that way. G all by itself at the end is always treated as "hard" --as in rig, bag...

OR when you DO find a "soft g" sound closing a word it is followed by e, AND the preceding vowel is LONG. For example: age, page, etc.

So, by English spelling conventions, "frig" would rhyme with "rig" and "frige" would rhyme with "OBLIGE"

The way English usually solves this problem -- when there is a g at the end of a syllable/word after a SHORT vowel, you write in the "d" --to represent a sound which is already actually part of the 'soft g sound'. There are many examples of this: badge, ridge, ledge, lodge, budge

(If the adding of a D seems odd, notice that j/soft g is actually not one sound, but a combination of two: d + 'zh'; a related sound, only not using the voice is the combination t + sh, which we commonly represent with "ch". 'zh', if it looks odd, is simply the "voiced" version of "sh". It is the sound made by the Z in "azure")

Actually, I believe the REAL problem here stems from the different ORIGINS of two sets of words. The words ending with "-dge" are generally of Old English lineage, whereas the final (-ge) are from Latin, mostly through French. So although "refrigerator" comes from a Latin word, "fridge" accomodates itself to the common pattern used for the 'original English' forms.

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A little overkill (sorry!)

The "rules" above seem to work pretty well when the syllable we're considering is ACCENTED. When it loses the accent, things may seem more confusing.

Thus there are, in fact, -age words in which the "a" is not long. But neither is it an accented short vowel (as in "badge")! Instead, the vowel has ended up in an UN-accented syllable where it is scarcely pronounced at all. Example: garbage, adage, manage, pillage. (Not surprisingly, these are largely words borrowed from Latin, mostly through French into Middle English.)

Then there is "garage". Of course, English speakers can't even agree on how to pronounce it! Dialects differ on the vowel sound, on which syllable to accent, and often on whether the final g is a "j" or "zh" sound . (In this case I prefer the "zh" as befits its French origin.)
Huh. Who knew? :rolleyes:

Flint 05-30-2010 01:58 PM

Fridge.

Aliantha 05-31-2010 03:02 AM

Everyone spells it Fridge over here.

An ex of mine used to sing a drinking song that had the line "friggin' in the riggin'", which I guess suggested sailors doing it boy style.

Spexxvet 06-02-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 659209)
Could Frig frig Freya's icebox?

No, she's frigid.

casimendocina 06-03-2010 07:04 AM

Definitely not overkill on the spelling rules. Love it! If only the placement of accents in Spanish was that comprehensible.

BigV 06-05-2010 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 659175)
just out of curiosity, what exactly is y'alls' understanding of the word, "frig?" To me, it means, um . . . digital penetration of the vagina.
--snip--

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 659190)
huh. that's interesting; I would say it doesn't apply to male anatomy at all

It does when I do it.

:finger: minus the anger, of course. :)

Cloud 06-06-2010 12:31 AM

Why are you mad?

casimendocina 06-06-2010 05:33 AM

Is that...Why, are you mad?

OR

Why are you mad?

(yes, I know, I know, completely unnecessary and not even particularly intelligent pedantry)

Aliantha 06-06-2010 06:03 AM

Either way, I'm keen to know the answer. lol

DanaC 06-06-2010 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 659581)
Everyone spells it Fridge over here.

An ex of mine used to sing a drinking song that had the line "friggin' in the riggin'", which I guess suggested sailors doing it boy style.

lessee...if i can remember this one without googling...

friggin in the riggin,
Friggin in the riggin,
Friggin iiiiiiiiiiiin the riggin,
'cause there's frig all else to do.

Now am gonna google it and see...

DanaC 06-06-2010 06:29 AM

Bugger no. It's 'fuck all else to do' :p

here's the full lyrics:

FRIGGIN' IN THE RIGGIN'
(Music : The Sex Pistols / Lyrics : Anthrax)


There was a bunch of roadies
And this here is their story
A scurvy bunch of evil twits
Who never say they're sorry

They've traveled cross the nations
Fuckin' paid vacations
We love the schism that they make
They're here for the duration

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

The captains name is Rick
Whose "Bozo-do" is slick
He really thinks he knows it all
He's just a Jersey hick

Wanking, cranking, Georgie
He always finds an orgy
He rubs his balls and picks his nose
He's horny Georgie porgie

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

The kind of sleaze is Ring
Polaroid's his thing
He whipped it out, her teeth fell out
And now it's in a sling

From LA we have Troy
His fetish is Playboy
A smelly trout, he'll eat it out
Go wash your hands you're M.O.I.

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

John Tempesta is The Joker
The Adams apple choker
Sandra Bernhard is his twin
He'd probably even poke her

The B-boy was John Rooney
He was a fuckin' loony
He does a rap, he thinks he's black
He's soft like Gerry Cooney

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

Yo my name is Bill
Dur, bouncing is my skill, duh,
Smoke ten packs and use my plaque
Duh, with my breath I'll kill

Thursby is the lard ass
The monitors are his task
The sound they made when the band played
Was like Ed Trunk with bad gas

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

The photobug is Ambo
He'll fill up any hairy hole
We'll blindfold you with dental floss
You burnt out fuckin' bimbo

The bottom line is Z
Oh please don't sit on me
Go wipe your hemorrhoid ridden butt
You 1960's hippie!

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

This here was the story
About our fuckin' roadies
A scurvy bunch of evil twits
Who never say they're sorry
They've traveled cross the nations
Fuckin' paid vacations
We love the schism that they make
They're here for the duration

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

fargon 06-06-2010 06:59 AM

:cry:My Dad called it a reefer, Mom said fridge. I'm confused and it is all my parents fault.

Nirvana 06-06-2010 09:45 AM

Did they keep their reefer in the fridge? ;)

Cloud 06-06-2010 10:21 AM

freezer is better for that

BigV 06-06-2010 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 660881)
Why are you mad?

Minus the "anger" represented by the face of the smiley between the "digital penetrators". "THAT" anger. :rolleyes:

skysidhe 06-06-2010 11:41 AM

It's fridge, as in refrigerator.

I have never heard or seen writing referring to a frig.

I have heard people say friggin'.

I just looked it up. lol It is called pseudo- profanity or minced oath.

Shawnee123 06-06-2010 08:12 PM

Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey
A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?

xoxoxoBruce 06-07-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fargon (Post 660899)
:cry:My Dad called it a reefer, Mom said fridge. I'm confused and it is all my parents fault.

It's a reefer if it's on wheels.

DanaC 06-07-2010 05:40 AM

It's a reefer if it's hanging from my mouth and smoking.


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