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Cloud 03-25-2010 02:06 PM

March 25 is "Tolkien Reading Day"
 
or so they say:

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March 25 is the date that Sauron, the evil overlord, is overthrown in Tolkien's "Return of the King."
http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03...ng-day/?hpt=T2

I used to read the whole darn thing about once, twice, or m ore a year. I stopped after about 35 readings. Now I re-read occasionally, skipping much of the first half of Fellowship (only really gets interesting after Bombadil); and skimming over Frodo and Sam's endless journey into Mordor. :p:

Sheldonrs 03-25-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 643066)
... and skimming over Frodo and Sam's endless journey into Mordor. :p:

But that's most romantic part! :D

Cloud 03-25-2010 02:15 PM

well, there's plenty of Frodo/Sam fic out there, if that's your cup of tea. Besides, if I skip to the end, "I'm glad you're here with me, Sam. Here at the end of it all." It's plenty romantic!

Pie 03-25-2010 03:48 PM

I'm sorry, but the short guys gettin' it on doesn't do much for me. :right:

Cloud 03-25-2010 03:50 PM

so get out your copies and read this authentic 20th century genius today!

Sheldonrs 03-25-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 643080)
I'm sorry, but the short guys gettin' it on doesn't do much for me. :right:

More of a Harry and Draco fan?

Cloud 03-25-2010 05:03 PM

Jim/Blair! Duncan/Methos! Clark/Lex! G/Sam!

(cough) I mean . . . back to Tolkien!

Pie 03-25-2010 05:33 PM

Ahem. Rule 34.

No Potter, more scifi. No doubt my kinks aren't your kinks.

Flint 08-24-2011 12:24 AM

I've been reading the Dickens out of Tolkien and have moved on to Robert E. Howard (Lovecraft's pen pal and second-most only to Tolkien in scope of influence over generations of derivative material). I had thought of Tolkien as the godfather of Dungeons and Dragons, but I'm branching out. My friends are telling me I need to read Robert Jordan, but I'm concerned about straying too far from the classics. Also listening to Homer on audio books.

ZenGum 08-24-2011 12:33 AM

Whatchyoo Tolkien about, Mr D?

Clodfobble 08-24-2011 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint
My friends are telling me I need to read Robert Jordan, but I'm concerned about straying too far from the classics.

Meh. Not the best in the genre, by a very long shot. The first few books are decent, but it goes way downhill after that, and continues to do so to this day, even under another author.

Have you read George R.R. Martin? Because that's where you need to be. I promise.

Trilby 08-24-2011 06:12 AM

Nerds.

ZenGum 08-24-2011 06:46 AM

Said the Keats scholar! Hah!

Is there anyone who read more than one third of Lord Foul's Bane? I know several who have started it, but none who finished it.

Trilby 08-24-2011 07:10 AM

I never said I was a Keats scholar. I was making fun of Keats scholars!!

(I'm a Plathian scholar - way, waaaaay worse. Your worst nightmare. )

ZenGum 08-24-2011 07:17 AM

So long as you don't sthart mouthing plathithudes.

Griff 08-24-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 752281)
I never said I was a Keats scholar. I was making fun of Keats scholars!!

(I'm a Plathian scholar - way, waaaaay worse. Your worst nightmare. )

OMG.. My youngest daughter was assigned a semester long project last year on Sylvia. She was not impressed. (She did ace it though.) You are a scarey scarey person Brianna! :)

Spexxvet 08-24-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 752275)
Said the Keats scholar! Hah!

Is there anyone who read more than one third of Lord Foul's Bane? I know several who have started it, but none who finished it.

Yeah, I read the first three Thomas Covenant books when I was 17. I liked Lord Foul's Bain, the rest sucked. I liked Robert E. Howard, too.

BigV 08-24-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 752275)
Said the Keats scholar! Hah!

Is there anyone who read more than one third of Lord Foul's Bane? I know several who have started it, but none who finished it.

I read them all about the same time as Spexxvet. I enjoyed them, and I sometimes think about the White Gold Wielder when I'm climbing down through the boulders, bumping my heel against the rock to make sure I've put my foot down as far from the edge as possible.

I *might* even have one or more of them downstairs somewhere still.

Spexxvet 08-24-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 752303)
I *might* even have one or more of them downstairs somewhere still.

I still have them. My 17 year old son couldn't get through the first one. He read The Hobbit between 2nd and 3rd grade, and loved the Sword, Elfstone, etc. of Shannara books. Didn't like ol' T-Cov, though.

Trilby 08-24-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 752286)
OMG.. My youngest daughter was assigned a semester long project last year on Sylvia. She was not impressed. (She did ace it though.) You are a scarey scarey person Brianna! :)

I'm hurt!


What didn't impress your daughter? the person or the poetry?

Griff 08-24-2011 10:02 AM

Her position is that Plath is only famous because she killed herself. The Emo thing has lost its allure through over-use in the present generation.

Trilby 08-24-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 752320)
Her position is that Plath is only famous because she killed herself. The Emo thing has lost its allure through over-use in the present generation.

Oh no!

Ariel was a tour de force! The poetry is phenomenal!! Not the lurid details of her life - !!

She's too young to see that.

Griff 08-24-2011 10:29 AM

This is a kid who instinctively figured out what utter nonsense Catholicism was at about 10 years of age... it took me about 30 more years than that. She is perceptive to the point that I worry about her.

Trilby 08-24-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 752327)
This is a kid who instinctively figured out what utter nonsense Catholicism was at about 10 years of age... it took me about 30 more years than that. She is perceptive to the point that I worry about her.

:) a smart cookie.

IMHO the poetry would stand without the salacious details of the poets life.

"Viciousness in the kitchen" is a truly great line. :)

classicman 08-24-2011 10:49 AM

I agree with Griff's very wise daughter. Read her back in HS and again after college...

Plath = meh.

Trilby 08-24-2011 10:52 AM

opinions are like...well, you know. :rolleyes:

classicman 08-24-2011 11:05 AM

Yep, I know and we have some of them here.

I've never been a fan of the dark crap. Life is too short and its far more enjoyable to focus on the positives.

Flint 08-24-2011 12:36 PM

There is a difference between cynicism and stoicism, though. Life isn't just positives, and dwelling only in happy places doesn't really prepare you for much of what is likely to happen.

glatt 08-24-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 752303)
I read them all about the same time as Spexxvet. I enjoyed them, and I sometimes think about the White Gold Wielder when I'm climbing down through the boulders, bumping my heel against the rock to make sure I've put my foot down as far from the edge as possible.

I *might* even have one or more of them downstairs somewhere still.

My experience was about the same as yours. I made it through about 3 of them and really enjoyed them, but couldn't get into them after that. I still occasionally think about the self checking and painstaking behavior like the heel bumping. Must suck to be a leper.

Griff 08-24-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 752335)
opinions are like...well, you know. :rolleyes:

Smiles! Everybody has one! ;)

Spexxvet 08-24-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 752360)
My experience was about the same as yours. I made it through about 3 of them and really enjoyed them, but couldn't get into them after that. I still occasionally think about the self checking and painstaking behavior like the heel bumping. Must suck to be a leper.

My friend and I still say "Don't touch me!"

classicman 08-24-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 752357)
There is a difference between cynicism and stoicism, though.

I said focusing on the positives. That is very different than "dwelling only in happy places"

wolf 08-24-2011 03:14 PM

If there's a Tolkien Reading Day, then I won't do it. Don't like him, but that's not why.

I'm kind of anti-days things, anyway. I smoke every Great American Smokeout Day, even in years when I've quit.

Flint 08-24-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 752393)
If there's a Tolkien Reading Day, then I won't do it. Don't like him, but that's not why.

I'm kind of anti-days things, anyway. I smoke every Great American Smokeout Day, even in years when I've quit.

So, where do you stand on "joining" things?

I've been hearing more and more "religious" people whose definition of God is virtually identical to my own. What is it, I wonder, that makes them feel compelled to join what is essentially a social club, based on these beliefs, whereas I myself emphatically state NO THANK YOU to such a proposition.

My running theory is that some people are just "joiners" ...

Trilby 08-25-2011 07:16 AM

I realize the question was directed at wolf, but I, for myself, I, sir, am not a joiner.

most emphatically NOT a joiner.

It's difficult for me to even go to AA meetings. They usually piss me off. This has nothing to due with sobriety - it has to do with being a non-joiner. I leave before the effing Lord's prayer. UGH. CanNOT stand.

monster 08-25-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 752283)
So long as you don't sthart mouthing plathithudes.


duck-billed plathithudes?

monster 08-25-2011 02:04 PM

I feel the same about the "special days" -compelled to do the total opposite.

ZenGum 08-25-2011 06:46 PM

Me too. We should form a club or something.

monster 08-25-2011 10:22 PM

sure, I'm in as long as there aren't any meetings, emails or any of that shit.

Pete Zicato 08-26-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 752274)
Nerds.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

ZenGum 08-26-2011 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 752734)
sure, I'm in as long as there aren't any meetings, emails or any of that shit.

Okay, but you're still doing the tax books! :D

monster 08-26-2011 07:44 PM

..I know....

wolf 08-27-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 752395)
So, where do you stand on "joining" things?

I've been hearing more and more "religious" people whose definition of God is virtually identical to my own. What is it, I wonder, that makes them feel compelled to join what is essentially a social club, based on these beliefs, whereas I myself emphatically state NO THANK YOU to such a proposition.

My running theory is that some people are just "joiners" ...

I do join things on occasion, but am very selective about it.

Like they have to give me a nice backpack or drink bottle, or reusable shopping bags with a nice picture of a panda or a baby tiger on them or something ...

Even if I were Christian, I wouldn't join one of those social sorts of churches. I handle my access to deity more directly and personally, actually.

Actually, the Cellar is one of the few things that I've joined and stayed joined to consistently.

Flint 10-02-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 752983)
Even if I were Christian, I wouldn't join one of those social sorts of churches. I handle my access to deity more directly and personally, actually.

My theory is that THE ONLY THING that makes you "a Christian" is that you belong to the social club. My evidence is that I have identical beliefs to people who call themselves "a Christian" while I do not. There is no substantive disagreement. The label itself is the only thing that the label describes.

Pete Zicato 10-03-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 760199)
My theory is that THE ONLY THING that makes you "a Christian" is that you belong to the social club. My evidence is that I have identical beliefs to people who call themselves "a Christian" while I do not. There is no substantive disagreement. The label itself is the only thing that the label describes.

I take the opposite point of view. A lot of people who call themselves Christian, aren't. That includes a lot of people "in the club". They will know we are Christians by our love.

Flint 10-09-2011 03:21 PM

If the distinguishing feature is by your particular brand of love, or the display thereof, can I assume the logical extension that "others" would not be capable of the same? If not, then there is no true category defined. But if so, then I take offense to the suggestion on a deep, fundamental level.

Help me reconcile this information?

BigV 10-10-2011 03:14 PM

oh no you di'nt!

Flint 10-12-2011 05:19 PM

lol u flint'd


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