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Flint 02-10-2010 03:35 PM

jinx, what does microwaving do to your food?
 
Other hippie wacko extremists feel free to answer as well. I'm asking because we have a microwave in our new house.

jinx 02-10-2010 03:47 PM

Makes it taste like shit?
Makes you more likely to eat processed garbage foods.

We have one upstairs, near the mini fridge, for popcorn and reheating, but not in the kitchen. Although the steam in bag veggie concept is making me rethink that.

lumberjim 02-10-2010 04:11 PM

I can tell you how a microwave differs from anal sex.



It won't brown your meat!

Undertoad 02-10-2010 04:23 PM

What's it do to your food... it heats any water molecules in it, by making them move around really fast.

This will cause other surrounding molecules to also become heated when the water molecules bump into them and cause them to move, too.

Clodfobble 02-10-2010 04:35 PM

The thing that irritates me about microwaves is their inability to heat evenly. But in general, they don't destroy more nutrients than other forms of cooking. (The most nutrient-destroying method of cooking is boiling, but you mostly get them back if you're also drinking the liquid, like in a soup.)

Cloud 02-10-2010 05:02 PM

gives you cancer. according to my hippie wacko extremist BD#2 who eschews having a microwave in her home.

I couldn't figure out how to throw away garbage in Portland, either.

squirell nutkin 02-10-2010 05:59 PM

It fucks up your wine and your drywall.


Actually, that's fake. But it's fun to pretend

gvidas 02-10-2010 06:21 PM

I appreciate microwaves for cooking vegetables and reheating certain things (rice, particularly, goes very well.) Instead of a plastic bag, you can use a glass bowl with saran wrap over top, or even a plate.

I agree though that it does make it easier and thus more compelling to rely on shitty frozen foods.

For reheating leftovers I really prefer to use a pan (the uneven heating argument, largely; although you can mitigate it if you heat for longer on lower heat, and stir once or twice.)

I think with modern microwaves the health risks are negligible.

(I do not presently own a microwave, but the cafe where I work is reliant on one.)

skysidhe 02-10-2010 06:51 PM

A microwave is only good for reheating coffee,popping popcorn and heating some leftovers. I need new one since the one I own was hers and is a relic but small. It's not an easy task to find a tiny microwave. It looks like the one in SN's video.

My dad's mom owned a convection oven.Now THAT you can cook with.

( memories ) She also told me about thigh high stockings. For an 80 something mid western prim elementary teacher she had some cool things going for her.

If she were alive she would be 103. She lived to be 93 and hardly ever used a microwave. Coincidence?

Griff 02-10-2010 07:01 PM

Isn't there a toxin issue with microwave popcorn?

skysidhe 02-10-2010 07:06 PM

I think it was with the buttered popcorn. I am not sure how that was resolved or if it was home use vs in factory exposure.

I only pop the natural lightly salted popcorn so I don't know all of the details.

jinx 02-10-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 633862)
Isn't there a toxin issue with microwave popcorn?

Several, I think. They stopped using diacetyl but people are still bitching about teflon.

jinx 02-10-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 633860)
My dad's mom owned a convection oven.Now THAT you can cook with.

We have a convection toaster oven, gets used every day. The kids call it the microwave.

skysidhe 02-10-2010 09:06 PM

I would too if I had one and I do want one. More energy efficient than an oven I am sure.

xoxoxoBruce 02-10-2010 09:22 PM

Uneven heating isn't as much of an issue with a powerful unit and a turntable, but the food should still stand for a couple minutes. Part of the problem is uneven distribution of moisture/oil throughout the food, along with the speed at which it heats. Very moist things, like sauces/soups heat pretty evenly because they self circulate.

Oh, and break the yolks or they will explode.;)

skysidhe 02-10-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 633922)
Uneven heating isn't as much of an issue with a powerful unit and a turntable, but the food should still stand for a couple minutes. Part of the problem is uneven distribution of moisture/oil throughout the food, along with the speed at which it heats. Very moist things, like sauces/soups heat pretty evenly because they self circulate.

Oh, and break the yolks or they will explode.;)


eww I have never nuked an egg! You bachelor you.

(well maybe not but who else would microwave an egg!)
:stickpoke (teasing)


Good tips on a power nuker though;)

Cloud 02-10-2010 09:28 PM

I think there's an issue with cooking with certain kinds of plastic dishes and wrapping.

maybe it's the microwaves that are causing autism, since the vaccines don't. The timing would be about right.

skysidhe 02-10-2010 09:31 PM

I don't know. Bruce has probably been cooking with a microwave since the dawn of time and he is totally non autistic. I think.

Cloud 02-10-2010 09:34 PM

not serious. but we're going to find out that some of our current ills are caused by completely ordinary things. like nail polish or aluminum foil.

classicman 02-10-2010 09:39 PM

nail polish REMOVER is the debbil - just smelling it makes me ill. It gets stuck in your nostrils, mucous membranes . . . Ewww! I can smell it for hours & I don't ever use it except for when I'm stripping something.

monster 02-10-2010 09:48 PM

Microwave Ovens are far better then conventional ovens for drying wet animals because they don't have any hot parts inside.

Also, the have great Science Fair potential, especially in combinations with eggs and metal.

What?

skysidhe 02-10-2010 10:05 PM

I know you were joking clod.

There is probably a longer list than just those two items.
It's enough to make someone fraught with worry but worry can cause harm just as easily.

I guess we can change what is obvious and hope for the best outcome when things are only vague.

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 633937)
nail polish is the debbil - just smelling it makes me ill. It gets stuck in your nostrils, mucous membranes . . . Ewww! I can smell it for hours & I don't ever use it except for when I'm stripping something.

I know you were talking about polish remover but you said nail polish so my brain kept wanting to rearrange what you said to make sense. :blush:

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 633937)
I don't ever use nail polish except for when I'm stripping.


Cloud 02-10-2010 10:21 PM

I read that too!

Dr. weil says:
Quote:

Microwave ovens are a great convenience, but you do have to be aware of potential dangers. Don't heat foods in plastic containers or covered by plastic wrap: microwaving can drive plastic molecules into your food. Use only glass or ceramic containers and cover foods with waxed paper or a paper towel.

xoxoxoBruce 02-10-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 633928)
eww I have never nuked an egg! You bachelor you.

My mother had boiled and dyed some Easter eggs. We brought some home to make egg salad but the yolks were still liquid. I had the bright idea of peeling and microwaving them, which seemed to work fine... until I bit into one (still hot). The sumbitch nearly blew my teeth out and they were real teeth. I figured it was because the white was already cooked from boiling, and trapped the pressure in. Wrong! Starting from raw, the damn things explode too, but at least they don't wait until you bite them.

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Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 633930)
I don't know. Bruce has probably been cooking with a microwave since the dawn of time and he is totally non autistic. I think.

Since 1973.

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 633951)
I read that too!

Dr. weil says:

Even plastics labeled microwave safe, can melt if there is fat (grease, butter, cheese) directly in contact. Water can only get to 212 degrees (sometimes under certain conditions superheated), but fat can get to several hundred degrees.

skysidhe 02-11-2010 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 633958)

Since 1973.

That sounds about right. I think the microwave we had in the 70s was hardier built that some I see these days.

There are some cheap looking and functioning microwave doors. I just wonder how it is able to contain all those waves.

xoxoxoBruce 02-11-2010 10:47 AM

Paid about $500 in '73, for a Sharp carousel that last 25 years and a month, of heavy use. The second one lasted a little over 10 years, but only cost less than $150. The current one was seriously cheap.

I still have the carousel out of the first one, for turning small stuff I want to spray paint.

If the door leaks microwaves, it'll warm you up while you're waiting for your chow.;)

lumberjim 02-11-2010 10:50 AM

I remember Sears coming out a year after we got our Kenmore Microwave and running a Geiger counter over it. I was a little freaked out by that......but I think that must have been 1980 or so.....

xoxoxoBruce 02-11-2010 10:52 AM

Not a Geiger counter. :lol2:

Undertoad 02-11-2010 11:12 AM

Microwave measuring meter. I bought one 25 years ago from Brookstone. I measured every microwave oven I could find, and every one I've owned since then. Never found a hint of a leak.

It makes me think the meter is broken, but I can't afford a microwave meter measuring meter.

Clodfobble 02-11-2010 03:09 PM

My father still uses the gigantic Kenmore he bought sometime in the 70s. It has manual timer and heat knobs, is built like a tank--I want to say I was at least 9 before I was strong enough to pull down the door by myself--and it still works great.

lumberjim 02-11-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 634042)
Not a Geiger counter. :lol2:

it was a fucking geiger counter to me, pappy!

monster 02-11-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 633818)
Other hippie wacko extremists feel free to answer as well. I'm asking because we have a microwave in our new house.

It heats it up. Do we really care beyond that?

If we do... it just jiggles the molecules, makes them move fast. But not fast enough to jump. unless maybe you put the plastic shit right next to your food.

Microwave in ceramic or expensive tupperware, no cling film. And don't use it to actiually cook stuff. Defrost and reheat.

Your brain will stay in tact if you watch the food cooking through the little window. Trust me. I'm a Dr. You may get very bored, though, after the first or second time. Unless you're sub-vegetable in the IQ stakes. or a Dr. in microwaving.

xoxoxoBruce 02-12-2010 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 634154)
You may get very bored, though, after the first or second time. Unless you're sub-vegetable in the IQ stakes. or a Dr. in microwaving.

If you get bored, you're microwaving boring stuff. Solution.:D

Happy Monkey 02-12-2010 08:16 PM

Healthwise, there's some evidence you shouldn't microwave stuff in many kinds of plastic. But that's not a problem with the microwaves themselves; except insofar as they let you heat stuff up in plastic at all.

skysidhe 02-13-2010 09:30 AM

I think the most important attribute is that when you spill liquid it won't run through. I think it is time for a new microwave.:blush:



Datalyss 02-13-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 633945)
Microwave Ovens are far better then conventional ovens for drying wet animals

Speaking as a pet "owner"...very bad joke.

monster 02-13-2010 01:28 PM

:lol:

BrianR 02-16-2010 07:43 PM

My (non cooking literate) wife microwaved an egg. I still haven't gotten it all off the kitchen ceiling.

Why oh why do people do stuff like this!

monster 02-16-2010 08:33 PM

shits and grins :D

Pie 02-16-2010 08:47 PM

A guy blew the door off the microwave with an egg at my workplace (two careers ago). Stank the lunchroom up to high heaven. :headshake

monster 02-16-2010 09:21 PM

Did it coincide with his handing in his resignation? Imagine fish stew with an uncracked egg floating in it..... program for 10 minutes on way to bosses office.... "That's it, I quit!".... hit start on way past......


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