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Flint 01-26-2010 09:33 PM

Tinker Toys and K'Nex are stupid.
 
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Legos are where it's at. Although you're not supposed to say Legos...

From 70s/80s Lego catalogues:
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"The word LEGO is a brand name and is very special to all of us in the LEGO Group Companies. We would sincerely like your help in keeping it special. Please always refer to our bricks as 'LEGO Bricks or Toys' and not 'LEGOS.' By doing so, you will be helping to protect and preserve a brand of which we are very proud and that stands for quality the world over. Thank you! Susan Williams, Consumer Services."
This used to be the message displayed at legos.com...

Juniper 01-26-2010 10:23 PM

Well, Tinkertoys are kind of fun for a limited age range, but quickly outgrown. And as for Knex -- I actually liked them when we started acquiring them, but my son never really developed an interest. Now we've got two big sets and a couple smaller ones in those huge Rubbermaid tubs just gathering dust.

I never had Legos (erm . . . Lego BRICKS) when I was a kid. I had "Playskool Building Bricks." I loved them, though.

My boyfriend (the one who ditched me at graduation) had the Girder & Panel set. We used to get buzzed and set up the HO gauge train track on his pool table, make bridges and stuff with the construction set - gosh, that was really fun. I mean, he was an ass, but we did have a lot of silly, childish fun together and I miss that. /digression

monster 01-26-2010 10:28 PM

Lego Rocks. We have more than you do.

(Brits never say "Legos", but we don't add the "bricks" bit either. It's just Lego.)

lumberjim 01-26-2010 10:42 PM

where the hell is pooka?

monster 01-26-2010 10:55 PM

trying to pry bits of lego from the vacuum hose.

Trilby 01-27-2010 04:06 AM

How dare you, Flint.

How dare you.

glatt 01-27-2010 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 630173)
Tinker Toys and K'Nex are stupid.
Legos are where it's at.

When you're right, you're right. Nothing to argue with there.

toranokaze 01-27-2010 10:27 AM

Legos are great but what about erector sets

monster 01-27-2010 12:42 PM

We call them Viagras

DanaC 01-27-2010 05:31 PM

I remember submitting an entry to the Ceefax competition when I was a kid. the prize was a lego castle (with knights !). I didn't win. I have never forgiven Lego, despiote it not actually being their fault :P

Urbane Guerrilla 01-27-2010 07:20 PM

The Tinkertoys were more flexible than the Legos I had way back then. Tinkertoy stuff would be general, Legos tending more architectural. Tinkertoys might build anything from airplanes to rifles to sailing ships (exceedingly sketchily, if I recall). Legos got some airplanes, the occasional robot. Both toys made vehicles pretty readily.

classicman 01-27-2010 08:34 PM

Legos were cool till they came out with these specific packs that really only build one thing . . . Kinda takes the imagination out of it. Yes they sell more of course, but there's more to business than just making money.

Flint 01-27-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 630418)
Legos were cool till they came out with these specific packs that really only build one thing . . . Kinda takes the imagination out of it. Yes they sell more of course, but there's more to business than just making money.

Yes, I hate the over-specialized pieces and gimmicky sets. It defeats the ƒucking purpose to have a molded piece exactly in the shape of something.

Clodfobble 01-27-2010 09:28 PM

Not to mention the fact that they're goddamn expensive these days.

jinx 01-27-2010 09:32 PM

Silly expensive for the one stupid thing it makes, and a couple guys. My kids like the guys the best...

monster 01-27-2010 09:39 PM

You'd be amazed at what can be done with the specialized pieces if your imagination is wild enough! :eek:

DanaC 01-27-2010 09:52 PM

'legos' is really jarring with me. Just like 'math' jars.

monster 01-27-2010 09:53 PM

I hear you

monster 01-27-2010 09:54 PM

... but I've "gotten" used to it ;) :p

DanaC 01-27-2010 09:59 PM

*grins*

Actually, 'gotten' finds its way into my language now. Probably because I spend so much bloody time online with Merkins :P

monster 01-27-2010 10:01 PM

urgh. I can say legos and math if I must, but gotten is only ever written and under duress

xoxoxoBruce 01-28-2010 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 630451)
'legos' is really jarring with me. Just like 'math' jars.

Yes it must be jarring... really disquieting to discover you've been saying it wrong for so many years. :p

ZenGum 01-28-2010 05:39 AM

Lego is a mass noun to me.

With several of the specialist kits, a good stash of general lego, and some imagination, you can make entirely new things.

DanaC 01-28-2010 05:52 AM

Yep: lego refers to the whole thing. Lego is made up of individual bricks.

'Maths', meanwhile is the shortened version of 'mathematics'. If you had to shorten the word 'qualification' you'd shorten it to 'qual'. If you had to shorten the word 'qualifications', you'd shorten it to 'quals'

classicman 01-28-2010 07:51 AM

wait . . . what? Lego is the individual block - more than one makes it plural = Legos.

DanaC 01-28-2010 08:15 AM

Nope. Lego refers to the whole (a lego set, or all lego), the individual components are lego bricks, or just bricks. Each individual brick is not a 'lego'.

Sundae 01-28-2010 08:16 AM

The plural of lego is lego.

DanaC 01-28-2010 08:17 AM

From wiki:

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The company name Lego was coined by Christiansen from the Danish phrase leg godt, which means "play well". The name could also be interpreted as "I put together" and "I assemble" in Latin, though this would be a somewhat forced application of the general sense "I collect; I gather; I learn"; the word is most used in the derived sense "I read".

Calling each brick 'a lego' makes as much sense as callling a breezeblock 'a construction' and then referring to a pile of breezeblocks as 'constructions.'

xoxoxoBruce 01-28-2010 08:29 AM

Written some damn foreigner that probably calls his trousers a pant. :p

classicman 01-28-2010 08:42 AM

HA HA HA - This is great - You guys actually got me to google this . . .

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Which is correct as the plural of LEGO: 'Lego' or 'Legos'? Neither, actually. The word 'LEGO', when used as a noun, should only refer to the company that makes the product. Otherwise 'LEGO' is supposed to be used as an adjective. Thus, when referring to the pieces, neither 'lego' nor 'legos' is correct... rather one should say: 'LEGO bricks' or 'LEGO pieces' or whatever (using LEGO as an adjective -- and one should really capitalize all of the letters, and put the little 'circle-R' symbol after it (®)). This is all a matter of protecting the trademark of 'LEGO' for the company (using it otherwise degenerates the strength of the trademark). This is not to say that I use the word correctly 100% of the time... but that's the answer to the question (it's always fun/painful to read the near-flame-wars that start at slashdot.org over this topic... and generally, both sides are wrong).
Link

DanaC 01-28-2010 08:53 AM

*laughs* fair enough :P

But our wrong answer is more logical than your wrong answer ... :P

xoxoxoBruce 01-28-2010 08:54 AM

We don't care what LEGO don't allow, we're gonna legos any old how... power to the people!

DanaC 01-28-2010 09:49 AM

I will defend to the hilt your right to speak badly :P

classicman 01-28-2010 09:50 AM

more than one block =" 's" blocks
more than one Lego = legos.

This isn't like deer, dear.

DanaC 01-28-2010 09:55 AM

More than one brick = bricks. More than one LEGO set = Lego


Lego set = bricks, people, additional extras.

classicman 01-28-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LegoGod
More than one brick = bricks.
More than one Lego = Legos

fixed that for ya ;)

xoxoxoBruce 01-28-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 630558)
I will defend to the hilt your right to speak badly :P

Ooooh, I love it when you talk dirty. :biggrinlo

Beest 01-28-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 630438)
Not to mention the fact that they're goddamn expensive these days.

I'm always pleased that they have a range of sets at all price levels.
They do a fair range of under $10 stuff, theres not many decent toys to be had under $10 these days.

(Lego Master Builder circa 1977)

Urbane Guerrilla 01-28-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 630508)
If you had to shorten the word 'qualification' you'd shorten it to 'qual'. If you had to shorten the word 'qualifications', you'd shorten it to 'quals'

Which is US military parlance all the way, though the usual usage of "qual" is not a noun but a verb. You hear phrases like "get qual'ed on that (technical skill, equipment operation)" or "I'm not qual'ed on that," which like anything else sometimes sees a metaphorical use.

BigV 01-28-2010 07:49 PM

LaQ

xoxoxoBruce 01-29-2010 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Beest (Post 630593)
They do a fair range of under $10 stuff, theres not many decent toys to be had under $10 these days.

At least without lead paint and cadmium.

toranokaze 01-29-2010 10:05 AM

I have never, or at least rarely , ever built the prefab specially Lego , I have always just went for it

victorm 01-29-2010 12:51 PM

what next, drop the **s in Mars?

xoxoxoBruce 01-31-2010 01:04 AM

Now I want a Mar bar. :haha:

DanaC 01-31-2010 06:22 AM

Oooh. Hallo Victor! Welcome to the cellar :)

TheMercenary 01-31-2010 07:51 AM

When we were kids the bomb-diggity was the Erector Sets:

http://www.arsjb.com/History_files/e...orsetbox1a.jpg

richlevy 01-31-2010 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 630591)
Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 630558)
I will defend to the hilt your right to speak badly :P

Ooooh, I love it when you talk dirty. :biggrinlo

Darn, I was thinking the same thing. And here I thought I was the only dirty old man on the Cellar.;)

DanaC 01-31-2010 08:37 AM

"erector sets"

*sniggers*

@ bruce and Rich: it's the English accent that does it. English accents were made for talking dirty :P

wolf 01-31-2010 11:06 AM

K'Nex are a Pennsylvania product. Support the Commonwealth!

My friend's son does both Lego and K'Nex. He builds huge things out of both. He will design and make things up out of his head. He will probably end up becoming an engineer or architect or the new guy on Mythbusters in a couple of years.

He has a couple of those monstrous K'Nex kits ... built a room-sized functional rollercoaster.

I have always had trouble making a house out of Lincoln Logs, and really miss Tinker Toys.

Flint 01-31-2010 10:58 PM

Never did Erector Sets. My problem with Tinker Toys and K'nex is that they seem limited to the "things built out of spokes and hubs" genre, whereas Legos (I say Legos, plural, so sue me) can do the spoke-and-hub thing but also tie that into the architectural realm--run a spoke through a block, anchor a gear to a block, etc. and you have mixed genres.

And I want to clear up a particular complaint that I do not have. I do not object to the "set that can only build one thing" because that complaint is, by definition, ignorant of what one properly does with Legos, i.e. store them in a big tub, possibly categorized, possibly pick-and-grab, and build from the imagination. Since the "picture on the box" may be built at most once, and likely never at all, it is irrelevant. I do recall the booklets suggesting plans for multiple items, and if this is no longer the case, then what is the harm done? Build something. Conversely, I can see the argument that the multiple plans laid out would constitute a "tutorial" in the use of new or unusual pieces.

To clarify, what I do object to is the rise of over-specialized pieces. That is, a piece molded exactly in the shape of something. This directly robs the Lego set of its potential as a tool of the imagination. And, why do we need this, when people have figured out how to build Stephen Hawking out of stock parts?

monster 02-02-2010 09:06 AM

Bloody Hector finally started his KNex rollercoaster in the christmas break, and it's almost done ....almost.... and abandoned, blocking up the entire landing. :mad2:

TheMercenary 02-02-2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 631694)
Bloody Hector finally started his KNex rollercoaster in the christmas break, and it's almost done ....almost.... and abandoned, blocking up the entire landing. :mad2:

Did you take a picture? I bet it was cool.

monster 02-02-2010 09:50 AM

it's still fucking there. I'm too ashamed of the clutter around it to take a pic, though

Clodfobble 02-02-2010 11:12 AM

Whaaaat? The monster we know and love embraces her clutter.

xoxoxoBruce 02-02-2010 11:18 AM

Clutter Culture! The only way to go. :thumb:

monster 02-02-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 631743)
Whaaaat? The monster we know and love embraces her clutter.

yeah, but I ain't sharing it :p

monster 02-02-2010 06:34 PM

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Clodfobble 02-02-2010 06:35 PM

I think we must be having a cultural mistranslation of the word "landing." To me, a landing is a turn in a staircase, a square usually only about 4 or 5 feet on each side.

monster 02-02-2010 06:36 PM

well, to us too, but I don'r know what else to call it -it's still the passing/turning space at the top of the stairs, it's just a little larger than the average

monster 02-02-2010 06:39 PM

the stairs are back to the left, our room also, boys room slightly forward to the right (next to that piece of furniture with the Crayfish tank on it, bathroom directly to the right, Hebe's room behind to the right....


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