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Trilby 01-13-2010 03:44 PM

Haiti and their Pact with the Debbil
 
Pat Robertson has said the Haitian quake was the result of a three hundred year old pack with the Devil that the Haitians made to kick the French off the island.


good ol' Pat Robertson. He can see the debbil where others see a human need.


what a maroon.

NEW YORK (CBS) Pat Robertson, the American Christian televangelist and host of "The 700 Club," said that Haitians need to have a "great turning to god" while he was reporting on the devastating 7.0 earthquake that shook the island nation — the most powerful to hit the country in a century.



As Haitian Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive said "well over" 100,000 people may have died in the national disaster, Robertson took to the airwaves Wednesday on his show and said that the country has been "cursed by one thing after another" since they "swore a pact to the devil."

"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti and people might not want to talk about," Robertson said Tuesday.

piercehawkeye45 01-13-2010 04:02 PM

Yes, those damn blacks and their vodou...

TheMercenary 01-13-2010 08:12 PM

I almost puked and laughed my ass off at the same time when I heard this report today.

morethanpretty 01-13-2010 10:14 PM

Here is the video of this man actually spewing his shit. Some people actually record him spewing his shit and air it on TV all the time. Sick.


xoxoxoBruce 01-14-2010 01:26 AM

He should know, he is the Devil.

Griff 01-14-2010 05:34 AM

"true story" :eek:

I guess as the Devil he was there so we can get the story. It would have been an interesting scene. The Devil and his lawyers, Toussaint Louverture and his, signing the documents to remove the French... much easier than fighting a revolution. The French must have signed a deal with the Devil to have the misfortune of losing Haiti... after those Arawaks signed theirs and Chris Columbus signed his. Where do we sign to get rid of Pat, blessing in disguise, Robertson?

Seems like there is a pretty explosive religion thread in this.

skysidhe 01-14-2010 07:04 AM

He's crazy.

You think you've heard it all then more appalling craziness.wwjd dude

SamIam 01-14-2010 09:04 AM

I certainly don't consider him to be a Christian. He's a bigoted fear-monger who doesn't have a compassionate bone in his body. If ever someone was working for the devil, its him. I want to say a lot of un-Christian things about this man, but I'll try to refrain. My church is having a fund drive to help the people of Haiti, and I'll be donating what I can when I get my next check. :mad:

Shawnee123 01-14-2010 09:12 AM

I'm agnostic (meaning I'm a religion fence-sitter, I guess) but I hope there is some kind of afterlife, and I hope that freaks who say and do horrible things in the name of religion (that they hide behind like the spineless pieces of shit they are) get to find out how really horribly evil they were. I also hope I get to kick them in the balls/cunt a couple times.

xoxoxoBruce 01-14-2010 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 626438)
Seems like there is a pretty explosive religion thread in this.

Has there ever been a movement/organization/group, that hasn't attracted some evil, self aggrandizing, power hungry, greedy, assholes? Religion and government are prime examples, but anything that provides a platform is irresistible to those people.

SamIam 01-14-2010 10:04 AM

Here's an actual Christian response:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-r..._b_422397.html

Spexxvet 01-14-2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 626468)
Has there ever been a movement/organization/group, that hasn't attracted some evil, self aggrandizing, power hungry, greedy, assholes? Religion and government are prime examples, but anything that provides a platform is irresistible to those people.

Institutions invite abuse.

piercehawkeye45 01-14-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 626462)
I'm agnostic (meaning I'm a religion fence-sitter, I guess) but I hope there is some kind of afterlife, and I hope that freaks who say and do horrible things in the name of religion (that they hide behind like the spineless pieces of shit they are) get to find out how really horribly evil they were. I also hope I get to kick them in the balls/cunt a couple times.

That what irks me. What if Pat Robertson actually believes that he doing "work" in God's name and not just consciously manipulating people.

Also, 95% of Haitians label themselves as Christians...

Shawnee123 01-14-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 626496)
That what irks me. What if Pat Robertson actually believes that he doing "work" in God's name and not just consciously manipulating people.

Also, 95% of Haitians label themselves as Christians...

Exactly. I figure if he really believes in his crap, I want to know at some point he'll have to say "Holy SHIT I was a crazy shitbag." If he's, as I suspect, just an asshole money-grubber who knows exactly what he's doing, I want to know at some point he'll say "Holy SHIT, you guys knew all along I was an evil shitbag...I thought most of you fell for my crap?"

Then come the ball-kicking ceremonies.

TheMercenary 01-14-2010 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 626496)
That what irks me. What if Pat Robertson actually believes that he doing "work" in God's name and not just consciously manipulating people.

I tend to believe that he does believe it.

Sundae 01-14-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

It may be a blessing in disguise, but that's a pretty optimistic attitude.

Something happened a long time ago.
The Americans were under the heel of the English.
And they got together and swore a pact with the devil and they kicked the English out, but ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other.

On one side of the line there is Canada and the other side is America. They are cut down the middle. One side is prosperous, healthy and full of resources. The other side is in desperate poverty. Same continent. They need to pray for a great turning to God..
Stitched together from real quotes, but countries changed.
For once, I hope God exists. Because the God of the testaments I grew up with would send this puffed up toad straight into the fire.

I can't even wish my atheistic views on him, because it takes no self-control to spew hatred, so I figure he's loving the power in the one life I think he's given.

Cicero 01-14-2010 02:37 PM

I often wonder why people always find a way to say the most stupid thing they can think of, as a reaction to natural disasters. This reminds me of Hurricane Katrina and all the ridiculous reactions that came from it. You know they deserved it too for being godless heathens.:headshake

classicman 01-14-2010 02:52 PM

I bet he and Rushballs are friends.

They deserve each other

Madman 01-14-2010 02:57 PM

I read the story behind that a long time ago. Can't be sure of the validity, but, for Haiti... wouldn't put it past them. Crazy freaking country. Witch doctors, dancing around campfires holding dead chickens conjouring whatever they conjour.

Anybody here vote for Pat Robertson when he ran for President about a decade ago? Anybody going to admit it if they did?

piercehawkeye45 01-14-2010 04:05 PM

You wouldn't put it past the country of Haiti for making a pact with the devil to get rid of the French because of some religious rituals? Are you serious? I personally know people, born and raised in the USA, that were considered possessed by the devil because they couldn't speak in tongue! Tongue!

jinx 01-14-2010 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 626561)
I often wonder why people always find a way to say the most stupid thing they can think of, as a reaction to natural disasters. This reminds me of Hurricane Katrina and all the ridiculous reactions that came from it. You know they deserved it too for being godless heathens.:headshake

Don't have to send any money collected to help if they are heathens.

SamIam 01-14-2010 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 626496)
That what irks me. What if Pat Robertson actually believes that he doing "work" in God's name and not just consciously manipulating people.

Also, 95% of Haitians label themselves as Christians...

Pat Robertson probably has some sort of narcissistic personality disorder or else he's a functional socialpath. I don't see how else he can be so inhumane. That and greed. He couldn't possibly ask his viewers to send money to anyone but him. And (God forbid) if he went down there to help, he might brush against a black person and get the curse. :eyebrow:

Oh, and this just in:

Quote:

Brit Hume Causes Controversy with Suggestion that Pat Robertson Convert to Christianity

For those of you who may not have caught it, this following bit of faux news may be of interest. Please note that, while wholly fabricated by a blogger who will remain unnamed, this news item is, nevertheless, deeply true.

This morning on Fox News, commentator Brit Hume sparked something of a firestorm by suggesting on the air that televangelist Pat Robertson convert to Christianity. “From what I understand, in terms of religious beliefs, Robertson ascribes to Stupid-A** Fundamentalism,” Hume remarked. “But I don’t think Stupid A** Fundamentalism offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith.”
http://thepietythatliesbetween.blogs...ersy-with.html

ZenGum 01-14-2010 11:59 PM

I think the Haitians got a bad deal. I mean, they were fighting The French. Why make a pact with the devil for that? Surely a half-promise to a minor demon could have taken care of it. Fools.

xoxoxoBruce 01-15-2010 01:41 AM

Quote:

Brit Hume sparked something of a firestorm by suggesting on the air that televangelist Pat Robertson convert to Christianity.
:lol2: That's fucking priceless. :thumb2:

Trilby 01-15-2010 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 626648)
I think the Haitians got a bad deal. I mean, they were fighting The French. Why make a pact with the devil for that? Surely a half-promise to a minor demon could have taken care of it. Fools.

You're back!

SamIam 01-15-2010 09:46 AM

I would sign a pact with the devil to rid us of Pat Robertson. :eyebrow:

Satan 01-15-2010 09:52 AM

I will just need you to sign a couple forms. Goddammit, where's my pen?

Shawnee123 01-15-2010 09:54 AM

(Throws a hundred pens at Satan) HERE YOU GO!

SamIam 01-15-2010 09:59 AM

*flexes fingers to sign forms* :D

xoxoxoBruce 01-15-2010 10:07 AM

1 Attachment(s)
hmmm...

Pie 01-15-2010 11:39 AM

I'll sign. I don't have a soul.

gvidas 01-15-2010 12:35 PM

A Qualified Defense of Pat Robertson, by Robert Taber, a doctoral candidate in Carribbean History at the University of Florida.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/...robertson.html

In essence, he states that Pat Robertson didn't just concoct the 'pact with the devil' statement from whole cloth: that it was a reference to Haiti's formative and entrenched relationship with Voudou, a defining moment of which was the ceremony through which the slave revolt was organized.

xoxoxoBruce 01-15-2010 12:37 PM

He's still a jerkoff. :eyebrow:

Shawnee123 01-15-2010 12:40 PM

The best comment posted to that article:

Quote:

Jon said...
I think people understood that Robertson wasn't *making up* a story about a pact with the devil; rather, he was perpetuating a centuries-old libel against the Haitian people and the religion many of them subscribe to, a libel boosted by the belief that of course black Haitians could not have defeated the white French without Satanic help. Mr. Taber's pointing out that there are conservative Christians *other* than Robertson -- even some in Haiti! -- who believe that Haitian religion is devil-worship hardly provides a "defense," qualified or otherwise, of that characterization. Nor does it explain Robertson's apparent position that his all-benevolent God is prone to indiscriminate, centuries-long, mass murder of people in countries where too many people worship the wrong gods.
Like duh, yeah. We're not stupid, we KNOW he didn't pull the comment out of mid-air. It's still the stupidest thing anyone on earth has said lately, Rush notwithstanding. :eyebrow:

(oh i hope there's a hell oh i hope there's a hell oh i hope there's a hell)

classicman 01-15-2010 12:44 PM

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The history of Haiti is one of remarkable courage in the face of daunting odds. Fears of spreading slave revolt led the global community to isolate newly independent Haiti. In exchange for recognition of its hard-fought independence, France demanded a war-damage payment of 150 million francs—estimated at $21 billion in 2004 US dollars—that Haiti spent eighty years paying. Post-Castro worries about communism spreading in the Caribbean meant that the Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations looked the other way as Jean-Claude Duvalier solidified his iron grip. In 1983, The US Department of Agriculture’s concerns about African swine fever led to the indiscriminate slaughter of the pigs that formed the backbone of Haiti’s rural economy. One need not look to supernatural realms to find the devils plaguing Haiti.
Hopefully, somehow this will be another chapter that describes their courage.

Unfathomable death and destruction. I cannot even watch it on tv anymore.

piercehawkeye45 01-15-2010 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gvidas (Post 626784)
In essence, he states that Pat Robertson didn't just concoct the 'pact with the devil' statement from whole cloth: that it was a reference to Haiti's formative and entrenched relationship with Voudou, a defining moment of which was the ceremony through which the slave revolt was organized.

That is a bullshit justification. First, the entire notion of Haiti needing to make a pact with the devil is entrenched with racism and religious elitism. Haiti was the only successful slave revolution. And, since Roman Catholicism was brutally forced on the slaves, it is only natural that they would throw that aside and integrate their ancestor's belief's with it, creating Voudou.

But of course, the devil must have been involved to allow a bunch of blacks overthrow their brutal white masters.... :rolleyes:

I mean....its okay if I say that blacks are an inferior race to whites because it was a popular belief 100 years ago....

Shawnee123 01-15-2010 12:54 PM

Hey... yeah, that's exactly what the comment (following the article) I quoted said!

piercehawkeye45 01-15-2010 12:55 PM

You posted while I was typing my reply.

xoxoxoBruce 01-15-2010 12:58 PM

But today, Haiti still has more Catholics than VouDudes.

piercehawkeye45 01-15-2010 01:06 PM

Many practice the two side by side. I think numbers are unknown though.

Sundae 01-15-2010 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 626801)
Many practice the two side by side. I think numbers are unknown though.

Ah well, the devil's in the details you see...

xoxoxoBruce 01-16-2010 07:07 AM

:lol2:

Spexxvet 01-16-2010 08:10 AM

If you pray to god to be freed from slavery, and you don't get freed from slavery, you're bound to turn to an alternative.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conan
: Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important! Valor pleases you, Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!

And why does everyone seem to accept, without questioning that voodou is evil?

Sundae 01-16-2010 08:15 AM

Because it's not Christianity.
Jebus said, "I am the way, the truth and the light, no-one can come to the Father except through me."

Pay attention!

richlevy 01-16-2010 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 627054)
And why does everyone seem to accept, without questioning that voodou is evil?

Because, unlike Pat Robertson, voodou doesn't have an agent and publicist.

TheMercenary 01-16-2010 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 626724)
I would sign a pact with the devil to rid us of Pat Robertson. :eyebrow:

I will co-sign for ya...


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