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xoxoxoBruce 11-30-2009 02:46 AM

Recycling
 
Recycling on a big scale... house big.

My Grandfather was born in 1880, and as a boy lived with the family that owned this house.

http://cellar.org/2009/house2.jpg

I don't know offhand when the house was built, but it was built is the typical New England manner of the main structure toward the road with attached kitchen & woodshed, with misc sheds, and barn behind. As new fangled ideas like indoor plumbing came along, the kitchen wing was redesigned and rebuilt several times.

Being on the main road into town and surrounded by a fair piece open ground (read farm), it's going to be sacrificed to "progress". :rolleyes:

It turns out the woman that now lives in my Grandfathers farmhouse, where he lived and raised his family from 1913 to 1953, is recycling that old house. She bought it, and is having it moved to a spot next door to the farmhouse. Most people would spot in in the pasture, but she wants it on the knoll behind the pasture.
Rumor has it, this is all to lure the kids to move close to her, but that's strictly gossip. :D

http://cellar.org/2009/driveway.jpg

They blasted rock for a solid week to make room for the house... with a cellar.
Only the older main structure will be moved, so a kitchen and bathrooms will have to be built, too.

The move should be interesting. The first mile or so is straight, flat, and lots of headroom, but some utility lines.
A left turn brings about two miles winding along the river, through the center of town, with lots of trees/utility lines, and a hump in the middle of maybe 100 ft elevation change.
Then a right turn, over a brand new bridge, but I heard they'll put down steel plates to distribute the load.
The next two miles consists of a rising eighth mile, short steep hill, short flat, long very steep hill, third to half mile flattish, long steep hill, and quarter mile flat. All this was made by a paving machine, following a cow up the hill, through the woods. Twists and turns, with almost solid trees on both sides, and utility lines.
Oh, and an elevation rise of about 500 feet.

That's some serious recycling.;)

casimendocina 11-30-2009 04:12 PM

Looking forward to the next installment in this story.

xoxoxoBruce 12-01-2009 12:03 AM

It should be moved before I get back up there, but I'll try to get a picture in the new location. Shouldn't be hard since it's right across the street from my driveway. :haha:

xoxoxoBruce 12-28-2009 10:11 PM

It hasn't moved yet. The foundation has been poured, though. Last week they had a meeting with the electric company, phone company, cable company, town officials, moving company, fire department*, highway department and state bridge people. They figure it will take two days and want to park it overnight in my brother's parking lot. The electric company claims it will cost them $16,000, and their wires are the highest on each pole. I noticed this weekend just how many trees are going to have to be cut back.

*During much of the first day the fire trucks will be cut off from half the town, and the second day the road with maybe 100 houses will be isolated.

TheMercenary 12-28-2009 11:47 PM

Wow. That is quite the project. I would love it if you took pics as the project moved on and kept us updated. Interesting.

spudcon 12-29-2009 12:13 AM

All that to move it next door? Next door is how many miles away?

xoxoxoBruce 12-29-2009 12:34 AM

It's about 6 miles. It's the house my Grandfather lived in as a boy, being moved next door to my Grandfather's farm house, where he raised his family.

xoxoxoBruce 10-04-2010 05:06 PM

Finally
 
A year after this move was initiated, it's finally happened. All through the spring and summer they'd set a date, then somebody would bitch to the town fathers, and it would get canceled. In June the town actually rescinded the permit to do it at all, but I suspect (just between you and me ;)), they did that knowing they didn't have a leg to stand on, legally. Then after her lawyer challenged it, they could say, 'hey everyone, we have no choice but to let them move the house, so deal with it'. It's hard to be the kings. :haha:

My brother emailed...
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The house move happened this weekend. They did the first leg Saturday morning. I was out of town for the day however when I left at 7 am main street was already closed and I understand it made it to the hardware store buy noon.
Sunday morning I woke up at 4:30 and decided I should make coffee. Got the coffee made but no shower as the lights went out at 4:51.
Drove around Rocky Dundee and parked at the town house where Main street was blocked off about 5:10. I walked down Main Street amongst all the utility crews and cops and it was like a parade. People we sitting in the dark with lawn chairs and blankets and everyone had a camera. Award for best party goes to the Blakes who live between the church and academy hall, who had a big cast iron fire pit in the front yard and were cooking bacon and eggs. I made it to about Hatch's Store before the house starting moving and I followed it back.
http://cellar.org/2010/main03.jpg

I can't believe they pulled that up the mountain with one truck. Of course it was a very big Kenworth tri-axle, but damn.
They must have taken the furniture out first.
http://cellar.org/2010/main06.jpg
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It cleared the bridge at 7:15 and they stopped there while the put Main Street back together. The plan was to drop everything on Chapin so the could do the entire road without stopping.
http://cellar.org/2010/main09.jpg
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At the top of the road there were 10 or so various utility crew just hanging out.
http://cellar.org/2010/chapin1.jpg
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The house came around the corner by the farmhouse about 11:30 and after some jockeying was clear of the road about noon. Power and cable were back up about 3. They left the house in the middle of the bee lot. Not sure when they are going to place it on the foundation.
http://cellar.org/2010/chapin6.jpg

Looking through the pictures, the guy in blue is definitely the HMFIC.

And this is what they left behind, the newer additions that had been attached to the original house.
http://cellar.org/2010/allen1.jpg

I'm glad they got it done before it got any colder, as most don't have heat with the power off.
So that's the end of the saga, most people made the best of it, a few enjoyed it, and the ones that wanted to be pissed off
were privileged to do so... ain't America great? :D

EDIT: I just found out the house weighed 27 tons, and is 24 ft wide.

monster 10-04-2010 08:04 PM

Very interesting, thanks

Scriveyn 10-05-2010 02:23 AM

:thumb:

"OVERSIZE LOAD" who'd 'a thunk it!

Now it's time to start building additions all over again.

glatt 10-05-2010 07:31 AM

excellent thread. Thanks, Bruce!

footfootfoot 10-05-2010 07:40 AM

I have that same toilet.

xoxoxoBruce 10-05-2010 07:50 AM

Thanks glatt.
I noticed there's a portable generator attached to the back end of the house. I though that was curious until I saw this picture of them moving in the dark.

http://cellar.org/2010/main01.jpg

I had to tone down the flash reflection from that guy's jacket, it was blinding. :haha:

It looks like they have lighting under the bottom, so they can keep an eye on the support beams and dollies, as well as the road. They might have even had it lit when it was parked at night.

TheMercenary 10-05-2010 01:54 PM

Soooooo, does the lady who had it moved still livein/own the part that was not moved? Or, are the owners the same or different. Seems like a strange thing. She lives in a house and shaves off part to move it somewhere else to make a new house. I would have thought it would have been cheaper to just rebuild considering all the legal fees and fights..

classicman 10-05-2010 01:56 PM

Where is the thread with the back story?

glatt 10-05-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 686715)
I would have thought it would have been cheaper to just rebuild

I doubt it's about the money. It's a historic house.

TheMercenary 10-05-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 686721)
I doubt it's about the money. It's a historic house.

I figured that, I was just wondering about the final real cost after all the legal bs she had to go through. But you prob better than most that after a while people will pay the cash just to prove a point and achieve the goal. I was also curious about the original motivation behind it all.

xoxoxoBruce 10-05-2010 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 686715)
Soooooo, does the lady who had it moved still livein/own the part that was not moved? Or, are the owners the same or different. Seems like a strange thing. She lives in a house and shaves off part to move it somewhere else to make a new house. I would have thought it would have been cheaper to just rebuild considering all the legal fees and fights..

The old location is becoming a shopping center. She bought it from the developers for like a buck or something, because she's an old house freak. She will remain living in the 19th century farmhouse she bought from my Grandfather, and is installing this one in it's new location on her property.
Moving it isn't as expensive as you would think. I would think she would have to reimburse the town for the extra police and fire coverage, but I'm not sure. I am sure she doesn't have to pay the utility crews for their work moving the wires. The state and utilities have a deal, where the utilities use the airspace over public highways for free, but have to move them when necessary, on their dime. The legal fees won't be stratospheric, the courts were not involved, although there was probably a lot of letters, forms and phone calls. Like Cloud said, lawyers kill trees.:haha:

Now the whole deal is expensive, because the section moved has no plumbing, no bathroom, no kitchen, so an addition has to be built with all that stuff, and she's adding a two car garage. The old section could have been replicated a lot cheaper, but old house freaks don't want that. I don't know who will live in it, but as I mentioned in the beginning, rumor has it this is all to lure her kids to move back close to her.

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 686717)
Where is the thread with the back story?

At the top of the page.

classicman 10-06-2010 08:20 AM

Doh :facepalm:

TheMercenary 10-06-2010 05:16 PM

Thanks Bruce. Great story.

xoxoxoBruce 11-25-2010 06:43 PM

The house sat in the field, just off the road for a couple weeks, but now it's been moved up the hill and set on the foundation.
I apologize for the picture quality, I'd left the camera in the car over night and it was cold. Apparently it was still sleepy because
it couldn't handle the bright hazy/foggy morning, and fogged all the pictures. But they show what I wanted to show.

When the foundation was poured last spring, they left notches for the four cross beams, and two carrier beams, the house is moved on.
I've been told they ease the house off the dollies and slide it over the foundation, by setting up rollers under the carrier beams,
in the cellar and in front of the foundation outside.
Then lower it into place, by what my brother described as judicious thinking, and occasional brute force.

http://cellar.org/2010/beelot1.jpg

On the other side is the foundation for the addition and the garage.
The addition, unlike the main house, has only a crawl space because it was so difficult/expensive to blast it out of solid rock.
It will house the kitchen, bathrooms, laundry and I suspect more.

http://cellar.org/2010/beelot3.jpg

I'll try to get a picture of the completed house, but that's the moving process.

classicman 11-25-2010 09:09 PM

Awesome! l love seeing this transformation.


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