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seakdivers 11-11-2009 02:27 PM

MysteryQuest on the History Channel - watch it tonight!
 
Mr. Seakdivers will be on the show! The History Channel sent us over to London to film a show on new Jack the Ripper theories. I think it is on at 10pm Eastern, but all the way up here in Alaska is says its on at 9pm, so I really have no idea what time everyone else should tune in so check your schedules ;)

Spexxvet 11-11-2009 02:28 PM

Cool. I saw the promos.

xoxoxoBruce 11-11-2009 02:29 PM

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sent us over to London
You got to go too?

seakdivers 11-11-2009 02:38 PM

yes I did. But I am not in any of the shots....... I better not be...

xoxoxoBruce 11-11-2009 02:41 PM

You should have demanded a role as a victim or something. :D

classicman 11-11-2009 02:50 PM

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10:00 PM EST MysteryQuest: Jack the Ripper

In one of the earliest documented serial murder cases, five prostitutes in the Whitechapel district of London were found brutally murdered with throats slashed and bodies mutilated. All the deaths were attributed to one man: Jack the Ripper. Never solved, the accepted theory is that the killer was a local madman. Now, 120 years later new evidence indicates two surprising new theories: the killer might have been a woman, or the killer was not English, but American. MysteryQuest's team of experts heads to London to follow these leads and examine the evidence first hand.

seakdivers 11-11-2009 03:09 PM

yeah they were really pushing the "Jill the Ripper" thing. Any time they (my hubs & Mr. Evans) said anything about a woman the producers would stop them and tell them they needed to refer to her as "Jill the Ripper". It was kinda cool to watch how they could bend the story to fit their mold (the History Channel's mold) without being rude or untruthful.

TheMercenary 11-11-2009 06:12 PM

Very cool. I have seen the adverts for it. Hasn't it already played?

seakdivers 11-11-2009 06:24 PM

nope. Tonight is the first showing - however, the JTR thing has been done, redone & done again so it wouldn't be too hard to think you've seen it before. ;)

TheMercenary 11-11-2009 06:37 PM

I will try to catch it. Thanks.

Cloud 11-11-2009 07:27 PM

how can there be "new evidence" after all this time? new theories, maybe . . .

jinx 11-11-2009 07:35 PM

Maybe new testing on old evidence?

TheMercenary 11-11-2009 09:02 PM

It's on!

TheMercenary 11-11-2009 10:17 PM

I enjoyed it.

xoxoxoBruce 11-11-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by seakdivers (Post 607695)
....It was kinda cool to watch how they could bend the story to fit their mold (the History Channel's mold) without being rude or untruthful.

Yeah, I could see which way it was going, but entertaining, none the less.:)
Who's idea was the new beard, the show or was he starting it anyway?

seakdivers 11-11-2009 11:29 PM

haha - the beard. Well...... he didn't pack a razor, so I convinced him that he looked fine with a scruffy face. I think it was ok.

The frustrating thing (I am being very careful here) is that they took a week's worth of evidence viewing, fascinating conversations that really did reveal some really weird new stuff, but it was too complex to squish into an hour of tv.....which in reality was only about a half hour with the commercials..... and that's all I can say about that.....

well anyhoo - at least he didn't do anything terribly embarrasing :)

xoxoxoBruce 11-11-2009 11:56 PM

Not at all, he did a fine job... and looked like a rock star.:D

Beest 11-12-2009 12:13 PM

I didn't see the thread yesterday, but watched the show, I've seen a few MytseryQuests and like them.

Some of the 'evidence' was rather strained (psychological profile from handwriting anlysis :smack:), and they only compared two possible subjects.

Never heard of this Lumbety guy though, American show, Amercian take on Jack the Ripper.

I watched it all the way to the end anyway.

seakdivers 11-12-2009 01:45 PM

ok yeah, we didn't know who they were going to use as a handwriting analyst. That part made us cringe!! Brent is first & foremost a scientist, so that kind of quackery is something he would really like to distance himself from......unfortunately there she was.

They actually went over many other suspects & there was waaayyy more evidence on the Tumblety guy, but the History Channel wanted to narrow it down to two it seems, so they whittled away at the footage to get the salacious parts they wanted.
As far as it being an American show/ American suspect - the guy who "discovered" Tumblety & wrote a book basically naming him as a suspect was Stewart Evans who is from London. :)

xoxoxoBruce 11-13-2009 02:34 AM

So handwriting analyst is a flaky way to profile someone?

Beest 11-13-2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 608186)
So handwriting analyst is a flaky way to profile someone?

"deep loops on the 'y' and 'g' that cross into the next line of writing proove that you're sexually psychotic" :eyebrow:


I like this kind of stuff, but always try to be objectively cynical as to what is presented as proof.

Theres a show on Discovery on Sunday "Jack the Ripper in America", I'm guessing it's about the same guy.

Seems to be solid evidence he was in the right place at the right time and disappeared again, was a strong suspect at the time, but they didn't have the hard evidence.

seakdivers 11-13-2009 02:47 PM

I know.... umm.... the letter that is supposedly "invading" the others was written first. The sentence/ words below it are the ones invading the deeply looped Y or G.
Brent tried to tell them not to use that kind of person - they need someone who compares handwriting to see if it has similarities or is fake, like the people employed by Christies or other high end auction places that determine whether or not signatures or writings are forgeries. As far as opining on a person's personality by looking at their handwriting? pffft - gimme a break.

footfootfoot 11-13-2009 03:55 PM

Look at that illegible scrawl, he must be a doctor.

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Beest 11-16-2009 11:34 AM

I only caught the last fifteen minutes of the Discovery show, their Ripper was an English guy, who after the London killings skipped to the US and carried on for several years all over the country.

seakdivers 11-16-2009 12:21 PM

the Discovery channel one was made by a different company. Their "investigator" was cringeworthy at best.


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