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xoxoxoBruce 09-17-2009 11:30 PM

Sept 18, 2009: Water Scooper
 
This has been a bad year for wildfires, not only in the US, but around the world.
In tough economic times, governments are strapped for resources to fight these fires.
Most have decided to concentrate their efforts on the areas of human habitation.
In the remote areas, that leaves Bambi and associates to fend for themselves.

Here's a picture of one of the aerial tankers scooping up a load.

http://cellar.org/2009/batdrink.jpg

Link

nil_orally 09-18-2009 03:11 AM

That reminds me - it is the mother-in-laws birthday soon.

Antimatter 09-18-2009 05:07 AM

Not much meat on those so you'll need several for a serving. Good job making the photos, though.

DanaC 09-18-2009 05:12 AM

Oh what a marvellous picture!

I do like bats. Always have. Fascinating creatures.

capnhowdy 09-18-2009 06:33 AM

Photo op of a lifetime. Talk about shutter speed!

classicman 09-18-2009 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antimatter (Post 595538)
Not much meat on those so you'll need several for a serving. Good job making the photos, though.

They taste like chicken when you fry them up nice. Their little bones makes them "extra crunchy"

spudcon 09-18-2009 08:13 AM

Is Nancy Pelosi fighting the California fires?

Cloud 09-18-2009 08:34 AM

and where's the follow up picture of the "dump"?

newtimer 09-18-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 595552)
Is Nancy Pelosi fighting the California fires?

No. It's eyes are open.

Madman 09-18-2009 10:04 AM

Bats don't eat enough flies.

Undertoad 09-18-2009 11:49 AM

How it's done

glatt 09-18-2009 12:14 PM

Thanks UT. I figured they used flashes and breaking a beam to trigger everything. But didn't know how they knew where to aim the camera. I guess stringing those strings all over the place forces the bats into the only free area in front of the camera.

Sundae 09-18-2009 01:55 PM

I love bats too. I love how to the human eye they just look like a piece of unravelling shammy leather lobbed randomly through the air, but slowed down footage reveals their incredibly precise aeronautical navigation.

Once you've seen a bat flight you can never mistake them for anything else.

We used to live down a road where we had more passing horses than cars. We were across from a gorgeous old vicarage with extensive grounds, and a church complete with graveyard. We'd watch the bats all summer, they came out when the swallows and swifts clocked off. And then we'd have a glass of wine in the cooling summer evening and listen out for owls and foxes. Magical times.

Elspode 09-18-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antimatter (Post 595538)
Not much meat on those so you'll need several for a serving. Good job making the photos, though.

"How do you like your bat, Dusty?"

Saknussem 09-18-2009 11:34 PM

And now for lunch
 
While you may remember that I don't have all that much of a fondness for insects (especially caterpillars) I really don't mind crickets and grasshoppers all that much. But when this sort of thing happens, I just GOTTA root for the mammal. I mean, this is just so damn cool. Go bat! I just wish I had some sauce to offer you, fellow warmblood. On second look, that may be a roach?


http://home.honolulu.hawaii.edu/~pine/images/Bat.jpg

SPUCK 09-19-2009 05:53 AM

What's amazing is they can pick out a lump on a plant!!

Sundae 09-19-2009 06:00 AM

Where as we have evolved to pick something nice off a menu :yum:

DanaC 09-19-2009 06:00 AM

Oh I love that picture! Bats were on my childhood list of creatures that get under your skin and provoke a kind of romantic awe. Along with wolves and foxes. Mum's terrified of bats after one got caught in her hair when they were happily sitting in the inglenook fireplace at a guest house in the Isle of Man. Or did it get caught in aunt Stell's hair and she was with her....maybe.

Used to go out bat-spotting with Dad in Queen's Park at night. Bats and owls and hedgehogs. A night-worker on his night off, and his insomniac little girl :P

capnhowdy 09-19-2009 08:04 AM

FTR that insect on the cactus is a cricket. I don't think anything but ants will eat roaches.

xoxoxoBruce 09-19-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 595756)
Mum's terrified of bats after one got caught in her hair when they were happily sitting in the inglenook fireplace at a guest house in the Isle of Man. Or did it get caught in aunt Stell's hair and she was with her....maybe.

Or they heard of somebody getting a bat caught in their hair... someplace... sometime... :rolleyes:

Gravdigr 09-19-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 595552)
Is Nancy Pelosi fighting the California fires?

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtimer (Post 595559)
No. It's eyes are open.

And there is a reflection...

Saknussem 09-19-2009 05:04 PM

Sorry, but the last bat that got caught in someone's hair was, besides the first, also probably dead and had to be stapled to the person's head. Bats are WAY too agile and quick to get caught in someone's hair. When I was working for Rockefeller University for Dr. Donald Griffin (he was the guy who thought up some ideas like "Animals think." and "Bats echo-locate prey.") at the Millbrook, NY field station we caught bats using vertical strands of wire. Imagine a whole framework of thick wire strung vertically with about 2 inches in between each wire. Now, the bats echo-locating was accurate enough for them to be able to turn sideways IN-FLIGHT and go in between the wires. We had to set up a second framework wire thing behind that one and with the wires offset so the bats would get a sonar bounce of the first set, turn sideways, and fly right smack into the second set of wires. We had a little collection bin down at the bottom to catch the bats so the volunteers could safely (safe for the bats, not the volunteers) pick them up and put them in burlap sacks.

ZenGum 09-19-2009 07:05 PM

Bats catch moths on the wing using echolocation.

Some moths have evolved to be sensitive to bat's sonar bursts and to fly in evasive loops and spirals when they hear them.

So bats counter-evolved to send short, irregular bursts of sonar so they can sneak up on the moths.

The struggle continues.

spudcon 09-19-2009 10:38 PM

Moths are now dumping strips of aluminum foil around them to mess up the bat's radar. Unfortunately, bats use sonar, but moths can't read, so they got confused.

DanaC 09-20-2009 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saknussem (Post 595848)
Sorry, but the last bat that got caught in someone's hair was, besides the first, also probably dead and had to be stapled to the person's head. Bats are WAY too agile and quick to get caught in someone's hair. When I was working for Rockefeller University for Dr. Donald Griffin (he was the guy who thought up some ideas like "Animals think." and "Bats echo-locate prey.") at the Millbrook, NY field station we caught bats using vertical strands of wire. Imagine a whole framework of thick wire strung vertically with about 2 inches in between each wire. Now, the bats echo-locating was accurate enough for them to be able to turn sideways IN-FLIGHT and go in between the wires. We had to set up a second framework wire thing behind that one and with the wires offset so the bats would get a sonar bounce of the first set, turn sideways, and fly right smack into the second set of wires. We had a little collection bin down at the bottom to catch the bats so the volunteers could safely (safe for the bats, not the volunteers) pick them up and put them in burlap sacks.

Definately happened. Have checked with Ma, and it was Stell's hair it caught in. It wasn't flying in open air, it was flying out of an inglenook fireplace, in which was sitting a bunch of people eating a dripping supper.


[eta] come to think of it...the lighting of a fire and all that smoke may well have been what drew it out in the first place.

capnhowdy 09-20-2009 06:05 AM

My grandmother used to have bats in the eaves of her house. (The square thingies on the ends were called batboxes) Every summer we would get a long bamboo fishing pole and stand below the batbox and whip the pole back and forth very quickly, making a high pitched whirring sound. The bats would fly right into it, rendering them unconscious. We picked up the bats and put them in a "croaker" sack then beat them om the porch floor till they were dead. If granny were still alive, I'd ask her why we did that. In retrospect, I now know that they were not only harmless, but beneficial. Maybe they caused mites or some kind of odor....I don't know.

capnhowdy 09-20-2009 06:13 AM

And they WILL jump on your ass.*

*see posts 454 - 456

xoxoxoBruce 09-20-2009 10:48 AM

Aw ferchrisake, all he did was look at you. :rolleyes:

jinx 09-20-2009 11:00 AM

We used to get bats in the house 2-3 times a summer in our old house in Coatesville. The whole city was lousy with them, all old house and old trees...
Anyway they're awesome outside, but I never got comfortable with them flying at me in the living room (they look pterodactyl size in flight) or crashing around my bedroom in the middle of the night. Spent many an evening crawling around on the floor, pregnant, with a blanket over my head opening doors and screaming at them to gtfo.
Good times...

glatt 09-20-2009 01:53 PM

My Aunt in NE PA has hundreds of bats in the attic of her old country house. They have been there for decades. It smells a bit musty and stinky in that house, but it's cool to watch them flying out at night.

xoxoxoBruce 09-20-2009 10:16 PM

I'd like to see the hairstyle a bat can get caught in. :rolleyes:

SPUCK 09-21-2009 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 596092)
I'd like to see the hairstyle a bat can get caught in. :rolleyes:

Think Marge Simpson..

xoxoxoBruce 09-21-2009 10:17 AM

Maybe graze it with a wing, or even bounce off, but get caught, no. :headshake

capnhowdy 09-21-2009 11:34 AM

Then how do they lay the eggs that cause you to go crazy?

(Deputy Fife)

classicman 09-21-2009 11:57 AM

One got caught in a sheet hanging out the window to dry at my parents home. Not the same as hair though. I have heard they get tangled up when they panic.

DanaC 09-21-2009 03:46 PM

Actually, given that she'd have been 16 or so at the time, I'm guessing a bee-hive. Stell was immensely proud of her bee-hive hair.

So, yeah....Marge Simpson.


I'd also imagine it was panicked. By the fire, and the smoke.

jinx 09-21-2009 03:53 PM

Have you ever tried to catch a bat?
Srsly, it's not easy... even if you're armed with oven mitts and fireplace tools.

Griff 09-21-2009 05:05 PM

Two badminton rackets or one mean old cat... We have a small number in (not in in more like under the plank siding) our house I like watching them.


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