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xoxoxoBruce 06-07-2009 12:01 AM

June 7, 2009: Vogue Vinyl Records
 
Long ago and far away, they made recordings on vinyl records.
I've seen a lot of them, in my lifetime, all sizes, speeds, and colors, but I've never seen any like these.

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VOGUE PICTURE RECORDS ARE PHONOGRAPH RECORDS on the “Vogue” label which have a picture (an artist’s illustration) embedded in the transparent vinyl of the record. ~snip~ The most common Vogue picture records are 10-inch, 78 RPM records, although a few 12-inch, 78 RPM Vogue picture records were also produced.
Between May of '46 and April of '47, they released 74 different records.

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Vogue picture records were of a very high quality, with little surface noise. The records were produced using a complicated process whereby a central core aluminum disc was sandwiched between the paper illustrations and vinyl.
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When Sav-Way entered into receivership all remaining stock was liquidated through distributors. ~snip~ It is reported that many of the left-over records were melted down to recycle the aluminum used in the core of the record.
With all the war materials being scrapped at the time, they couldn't have gotten much money for that aluminum.
They probably burned the vinyl off, letting the smoke/fumes go up the stack. :yelsick:

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spellcheck wants me to change disc to disco... now that is sick. :eyebrow:

Alluvial 06-07-2009 12:09 AM

Huh. I remember seeing records that were all one color, but none with artwork like that on them.

Cyber Wolf 06-07-2009 02:34 AM

When I was a pup I had a record that had an adaptation of the 1978 story of Puff the Magic Dragon on it. The record itself was one big illustration, just like those, with Puff and Jackie on the front. I remember it confused the heck out of me when I first got it... up until then, all records were black with colored stickers in the middle.

SPUCK 06-07-2009 05:00 AM

I had an album that was transparent red. It was.. special.

I think it might have been a Christmas one.

ZenGum 06-07-2009 05:58 AM

The gender politics of those pictures is rather striking. Maybe this is not a representative sample, but the next time someone complains about the scantily clad hos in rap videos, I'll think of this.

Where can I get some of those heart-shaped hand-cuffs?

capnhowdy 06-07-2009 08:20 AM

Vinyl is supposedly making a comeback. A couple years ago I gave away about 300 LPs. Big mistake.

Undertoad 06-07-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 571391)
The gender politics of those pictures is rather striking.

Now add this: the artist, Marion Mann, was a woman.

Clodfobble 06-07-2009 11:33 AM

Sure, the singer was a woman. But the producer, agent, publicist, and guy who drew the art for the album were almost assuredly male. I'd estimate the singer had zero say in what pictures went on her album. Though of course we're all products of our environment--she probably didn't have a problem with what went on them anyway.

BigV 06-07-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 571391)
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Where can I get some of those heart-shaped hand-cuffs?

They're available at jewelry stores everywhere, usually sold in sets, but contrary to the illustration, are most commonly worn on ring finger of the left hand.

xoxoxoBruce 06-07-2009 11:54 AM

The pictures reflect the lyrics of the song, her lament, on that side of the record. I'd have to know the lyrics to know if it's an accurate depiction, but I'll bet it is.

Gravdigr 06-07-2009 01:37 PM

I still have a purple "Purple Rain" 45 rpm single.

When I was a kid I discovered this contraption in my G-mother's attic: It was a TV type thing that played special 45's and showed a related story on the screen (black & white, btw) while the record played. Kinda like music videos. There may have been a book to go along with the record. I spent untold fascinated hours with this thing.

I had forgotten completely about this contraption until reading this post. Thanks Bruce for rekindling a fond memory.

sweasel 06-07-2009 02:21 PM

Huh. Wikipedia never hoid of her: Marion Mann (born March 29, 1920) is an American physician and pathologist. He was a Dean of the College of Medicine at Howard University from 1970 to 1979.

capnhowdy 06-07-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 571462)
I still have a purple "Purple Rain" 45 rpm single.

When I was a kid I discovered this contraption in my G-mother's attic: It was a TV type thing that played special 45's and showed a related story on the screen (black & white, btw) while the record played. Kinda like music videos. There may have been a book to go along with the record. I spent untold fascinated hours with this thing.

I had forgotten completely about this contraption until reading this post. Thanks Bruce for rekindling a fond memory.

I remember those things, too. I can't for the life of me remember what they were called.

Gravdigr 06-07-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy (Post 571482)
I remember those things, too. I can't for the life of me remember what they were called.

I racked (wracked?) my brain trying to remember what that thing was called. I gave up when my head started hurting.

capnhowdy 06-07-2009 04:17 PM

My first thought was give a show projector, but that was the one you slid the film through.

The one I'm thinking of was like a mini TV with a record player on top. The film was synched to the record. And there was a book, too. My little sis had one.

I bet xoB knows......

Mayor of Shekou 06-07-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 571489)
I racked (wracked?) my brain trying to remember what that thing was called. I gave up when my head started hurting.

Of Course your brain hurt! Anything hurts when you put it on the rack!

I was thinking the S&M crowd would LOVE those heart-shaped handcuffs - with the little points to dig in nicely...I do want to buy a pair!

Shawnee123 06-07-2009 08:50 PM

I did some googling trying to come up with the record/movie player but had no luck. However, I've found some vintage toy sites (I love old toys) and have gone on a journey that only the internet can provide! :)

SteveDallas 06-07-2009 10:28 PM

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I tried too some time ago when something reminded me of this, but couldn't find it. This time, for some reason, the name floated up out of the flotsam and jetsam of my brain. Of course, knowing the name made it much easier to find!! Behold, the Show 'n' Tell. (After I remembered the name, it took still longer to find a photo. There apparently aren't many, and the nature of the words make it hard to narrow the search. The attachment is actually the cover of one of the record/filmstrip sets, but it shows the player and a filmstrip.)

Based on the Wikipedia article, my older brother had the GE version. It was still around and functional by the time I came along (seven years later), but none of the films were in good shape. I was vaguely conscious of 78's as an "older" record that wasn't made any more in favor of 33's and 45's, but I had a couple WTF moments at the 16RPM setting. One Christmas my sister & I received the updated version mentioned in the article. It was hot stuff for the time!

ZenGum 06-07-2009 11:39 PM

Great work, Steve!

Now, the gender politics of THAT picture ... I ain't going there!

xoxoxoBruce 06-08-2009 12:15 AM

Any "gender politics" in that, or the original post pictures, is in your dirty mind.

ZenGum 06-08-2009 12:19 AM

Yeah ... wanna share? :p

capnhowdy 06-08-2009 06:24 AM

That's it! Thanks, Steve. When I googled "show and tell" all I got was a bunch of lyrics for the song. (Which was killer). Guess I should have kept digging.

chrisinhouston 06-08-2009 08:18 AM

My mom had one, I think the song was titled "I Guess I'll Get the Papers and Go Home" and was about some lonsome lovesick guy who lost his girl.

There is a website for collectors: http://www.voguepicturerecords.org/

SteveDallas 06-08-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 571593)
Now, the gender politics of THAT picture ... I ain't going there!

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 571606)
Any "gender politics" in that, or the original post pictures, is in your dirty mind.

I'll leave the phallic-osity of Pinocchio's nose to others.... But, note that while a scene from Pinocchio is shown on the screen, we also see Gulliver's Travels and The Prince and the Pauper--which is already open and ready to go; the girl even has the filmstrip all ready to load (putting a nice thumbprint on the film in the process).

[Not so] subtle message to parents? "Don't worry, we have lots and lots of classic literature available. No, really, the kids will LEARN from it."

ETA: Catalog of some titles available

chrisinhouston 06-08-2009 08:28 AM

If you go to the website I mentioned and click on discography you get all of the titles and who performed the songs. Some of the groups names are pretty amusing. In those days anyone with a band called it an orchestra!

Here are a few good ones:

The King's Jesters and Louise
The Don Large Chorus
Shep Fields and His Orchestra
Lulu Belle and Scotty
Patsy Montana
The Hour of Charm All-Girl Orchestra
The Down Homers
Dick La Salle and His Society Orchestra
WOWO Hoosier Hop Gang

Sundae 06-09-2009 11:36 AM

I love the literal interpretation of Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea!
I'd love to have seen the album cover for something like Georgia on my Mind.

Gravdigr 06-09-2009 09:19 PM

Show & Tell
 
I quite possibly have killed the brain cells associated with the Show&Tell, as those words don't ring a bell.
That said, it almost has to be the same item, doesn't it?

I distinctly remember black & white pictures, though, perhaps the little strips we had were of the cheapie variety.

Great work finding this! :thumb:

SteveDallas 06-09-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 572258)
I quite possibly have killed the brain cells associated with the Show&Tell, as those words don't ring a bell.
That said, it almost has to be the same item, doesn't it?

I distinctly remember black & white pictures, though, perhaps the little strips we had were of the cheapie variety.

You don't remember the name... and you don't remember color images (whereas I don't remember any B&W ones). I wouldn't discount the possibility that you're thinking of some other item.

ZenGum 06-10-2009 01:38 AM

Nah, its just that everything in the olden days was black and white. I saw it on TV.

wolf 06-10-2009 10:31 AM

And here I thought that picture-discs were a fresh and new thing in the 70s and 80s.

I know I have at least one, it's the story of Star Wars, narrated by Anthony Daniels. I have a vague thought that there's another one in the pile of vinyl, but I can't remember what it might be.

glatt 06-10-2009 11:10 AM

Not the same thing, but I've got a Raiders of the Lost Ark read-along story book that has an accompanying 45. Every time you are supposed to turn the page, Indy cracks his whip.

xoxoxoBruce 06-10-2009 11:13 AM

Move at the crack of the whip? Ahhh, preparation for marriage. :haha:

SteveDallas 06-10-2009 11:14 AM

I had an LP of The Story of Star Wars.. but I don't think it was a picture disc. (Thanks to that record, I can replay the audio of the entire Battle of Yavin, down to the last R2-D2 beep, in my head.)

The soundtrack LP from Superman II was not a picture disc, but it did have the Superman logo imprinted several times in a circle on each side in some kind of colored hologram-type material that was the same color as the LP till you angled it to the light just so.

Gravdigr 06-10-2009 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 572349)
Nah, its just that everything in the olden days was black and white. I saw it on TV.

OLDEN days??????? Well, damn.

capnhowdy 06-10-2009 07:59 PM

Let's not forget "Jonathan Livingston Seagull". Boy was I stoned back then....

xoxoxoBruce 06-11-2009 11:40 PM

I was talking to a guy at work who is a serious collector of old Victrolas and records. He said he has some of those vogue records and the biggest problem with them was moisture would cause the vinyl to peel off the aluminum disc.


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