Pelosi & Cheney
 

Cheney and Pelosi Have Poor Ratings in Common

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Interesting to see that more Independents have a favorable rating of Cheney over Pelosi too, by over 10% margin.

I like the 'never heard of/no opinion.' There's a big difference between not having heard of them (HUH?) and not giving a shit about them. :lol:

not really - Either way its not a positive nor a negative in this case.

Well, you know I'm going to find the odd angle in anything. That's what I do.

fixed that for ya.


Yeh - I just found it interesting that after the last election and all the gains of the D party that the rating of their "Leader of the House" still suxass.

Hey hey hey...

They are definitely two of the most unpopular politicians. I know what I think of Cheney, anyway. ;)

and whats your opinion on Pelosi?

Well, those of us who were on the fence about her and feeling like we should have some loyalty because she's a leader of our party finally came to our senses with her pathetic handling of the CIA briefing affair. I'd be pleased if we had another speaker. She's not worthy of her post.

Yeah, that's it in a nutshell.

And, for good or bad, public perception is important in our leaders. We learned that with Bushie.

Strange that she is still so popular in her own district. I guess she is raking in the stimulus money for herself.

Harry Reid has been unusually quiet too - I wonder if he is trying to stay below the radar...

Pelosi and Cheney ....

Rule 34 ...



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Brain bleach, STAT!!!!!

Pretty funny. :lol2:

Cheney is more popular than Pelosi. Not really surprised but Polls are stupid so I can't really support the conclusions.

No...look again. He has a lower rating of "Unheard/no opinion"
He has a higher unfavorable rating also.

Looking at the numbers alone they are statistically not really significant.

34 vs 37; 4 points.

50 vs 54; 4 points.

the last category does not even count.

He isn't in office anymore, I would like them to have that in common as well.

Usually by the time a member of congress is well know enough by the rest of the country to be hated, it means they have climbed their way to the top of the pile and have considerable power and influence. That power and influence makes their constituents happy and keeps them voting the guys back. The polls always say that the public hates Congress but likes their own congressman.

Yeh, I know, but maybe the poor reports of the stimulus package thats SHE was instrumental in getting written and passed will help to rid us of her. :shrug:

I'd like to push Cheney down the stairs of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in his wheelchair and laugh at the sickening smack his festering old shell of a body would make when it hit the bottom.
Then take a photo and hang it up at the MoMA.

Feel free to disagree but it won't change my feelings at all.
(and admit it, it paints a hilarious cartoonesque picture doesn't it)

I'd be good with that as long as we can use Pelosi for target practice.

I really wish Cheney would stop going on TV and running his mouth. IMO, what HE is doing is making us less safe. His policies acted as a recruitment tool for al qaeda and other terrorist groups, and now he has the gall to go on TV and say Obama is making the country less safe? He has a right to his opinion, but going on TV every week and repeating that is not helping anything. It certainly isn't helping the country as a whole.

I like Nancy Pelosi, but she made the same mistake. I believe her about the CIA, but she really didn't need to be arguing about it on national TV every day for a week.

Oh please. She was doing nothing more than covering her ass. One politico with a whole freaking power trip agenda vs a whole federal agency? Come on...

Does anyone really believe that anything we say will change radical Islam's desire to exterminate us! If anyone believes that then maybe they ought to be getting on the President's case for running around the world apologizing, freeing terrorists, putting them on trials that give them a forum, and otherwise making us look weak. The only thing terrorists respect is the barrel end of a gun

I wonder if those two statements are connected?

Its the same as
I don't like her
I don't believe her.

I believe her because the CIA is secretive in nature and trained to lie. And she is not the first person in Congress to accuse the CIA of lying. In fact, Newt himself accused them of it as well, back in the day. So have other republicans.

That is ridiculous. He is not apologizing. He is gaining their respect though, something Bush and Cheney never did. His popularity in Muslim countries is very high, because he was very bold and admitted some things that no politician has ever admitted, even though it's true. He did not just point the finger and wave it at them and accuse them of being evil.

Yeah.....putting people on trial and observing due process...weakass liberals.

Ever notice it's the conservatives who got deferments and never went to war themselves who are the first to wage war or do illegal shit like torture?

You couldn't be more wrong, again. More conservatives go to war, fight for this country and sacrifice their lives for you to spout this kind of bullshit than liberals. Look it up. Sheesh, and to think I missed you when you were gone.

Cheney got FIVE deferments from Vietnam. Bush never went. In fact, I don't anyone in that administration who was in the inner circle and planned the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ever went. Kerry did two tours though. Max Cleland also served, he lost his legs, yet republicans drug both of them through the mud in 2004. It was unconscionable.

And you missed me? :)

So you went from "it's the conservatives" to "the inner circle of that administration" Uh, ok. Do you get as dizzy when you type as I do reading your posts? FYI, the military ratio is about 3 to 1 republican....

Here is a short list of those that served "from that administration" a couple years ago...

President George W. Bush - US Air National Guard. Served from 1968-1973. Twice promoted during his service; first, to 2nd Leutenant and then to 1st Leutenant. Honorably discharged.

President George H. W. Bush - US Navy. World War II. Awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross.

Secretary of State Colin Powell - US Army. Vietnam War. 4-Star General (Ret.). Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1989-1993). Awarded the Defense Distinguished Service Medal, Army Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service Medal, Legion of Merit, Solder's Medal, the Bronze Star and Purple Heart.

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge - US Army. Vietnam War. Awarded the Bronze Star for Valor, Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry and the Combat Infantry Badge.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld - US Navy. Naval aviator. Served from 1954-1957.

Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK) - US Air Force. World War II. Awarded two Distinguished Flying Crosses, two Air Medals, and the Yuan Hai Medal awarded by the Republic of China.

Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) (Ret.) - US Army. World War II. Awarded two Purple Hearts and the Bronze Star.

President Gerald Ford - US Navy. World War II. Served from 1942-1946.

Senator John McCain (R-AZ) - US Navy. Vietnam War. Awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.

Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) - US Army. Vietnam War. Awarded two Purple Hearts and several other decorations.

Congressman Duke Cunningham (R-CA) - US Navy. Vietnam War. Nominated for the Medal of Honor. Awarded the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations.

Congressman Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD) - US Marine Corps. Vietnam War. Awarded the Purple Heart, Bronze Star, and Navy Commendation Medal.

Congressman Sam Johnson (R-TX) - US Air Force. Korean and Vietnam War. POW in Hanoi from April 1966 to February 1973.

Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) - US Army Reserves. Served from 1973-1986.

Congresswoman Heather Wilson (R-NM) - US Air Force. Served from 1978-1989.

Would you like to start one from Obama's administration or retract your statement now?

How many of those people were in the inner circle who started the war in Iraq and who created a torture program?

Do your own homework. Since you wanna play this stupid game I'm still trying to find someone, anyone in Obama's "inner circle" that served in the military.
Obama - NO
Biden - NO
H. Clinton - NO
Geithner - NO
Holder - NO
At this point, I'm tired of looking. Your next post is probably going to be how great you think it is that none of them have - WTFE.

Obama did not start a war, and he is ending the torture policy, so that does not apply.

oh I see. You're nuts, ya know that dontcha? :P

Yes, I know. ;)