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classicman 03-09-2009 07:59 PM

Ancient Astronauts
 
I was falling asleep last night watching the History Channel and they had a show on about Ancient Astronauts. There were some really interesting things that they brought up. They had found some ruins that we couldn't create even using today's technology and tools. They talked about "Baghdad batteries" and the ancient Egyptians using light bulbs to see in their chambers; some pyramids/ruins built which perfectly match the solar system and so on. I fell asleep and thats about all I remember. Anyone else seen anything about this? It was most interesting.

lumberjim 03-09-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 543393)
I was falling asleep last night watching the History Channel and they had a show on about Ancient Astronauts. There were some really interesting things that they brought up. They had found some ruins that we couldn't create even using today's technology and tools. They talked about "Baghdad batteries" and the ancient Egyptians using light bulbs to see in their chambers; some pyramids/ruins built which perfectly match the solar system and so on. I fell asleep and thats about all I remember. Anyone else seen anything about this? It was most interesting.

i fell asleep to the same program. i remember something about the egyptian and mayan pyramids having the same footprint and orientation?

classicman 03-09-2009 08:47 PM

Yeh - that was it and some place was made of granite stones that were cut so precisely... and some pics of lightbulbs on the walls in hieroglyphics or some shit.

I'd love to see it in its entirety

classicman 03-09-2009 08:51 PM

Oooooh found this link....

http://www.world-mysteries.com/fd_lamp.jpg

Aliantha 03-09-2009 08:53 PM

It must have been an interesting program to have had a 100% falling asleep ratio. :lol2:

Happy Monkey 03-09-2009 09:05 PM

If aliens came to Earth using Baghdad batteries, they must have been mighty impressive.

Beestie 03-09-2009 09:15 PM

I remember the big fuss about the so-called landing strips etched into the landscape (I think in Peru). They were supposedly for ancient astronaut space ships.

So lemme see if I get this. A spaceship capable of travelling trillions of miles through space and time needs a landing strip? Please.

I read all the Daniken books as a kid and remember just shaking my head in amazement at how anything can look like anything if the bias is strong enough.

classicman 03-09-2009 09:17 PM

lol - those were claimed to be used for light in the crypts and stuff. They used copper and some orange juice... something else. It was really cool. The guy on tv even showed one that worked.

ZenGum 03-09-2009 11:08 PM

We use shit like that as a stalking horse in our Argument and Critical Thinking courses.

You did well to fall asleep.

Beestie 03-10-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 543430)
If aliens came to Earth using Baghdad batteries, they must have been mighty impressive.

They didn't come to earth using Baghdad batteries, they came to earth because they were told in an intel briefing that we had Baghdad batteries and they wanted to find them. They came, they looked and, well... they left.

Empty handed. :D

Spexxvet 03-10-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie (Post 543537)
They didn't come to earth using Baghdad batteries, they came to earth because they were told in an intel briefing that we had Baghdad batteries and they wanted to find them. They came, they looked and, well... they left.

Empty handed. :D

But first they used a date rape drug on a chick named Mary, and nine months later she had a kid that she named Jesus.

classicman 03-10-2009 12:06 PM

Does anyone even know the name of the show? I would like to see if I can order or rent it if possible.

Shawnee123 03-10-2009 12:14 PM

Ancient Aliens
 
It was initially tied around the book Chariots of the Gods. I saw almost all of it, until I forced myself to go to bed. It was interesting; I find that stuff fascinating anyway.

Here is the show, along with future showtimes. I'd like to catch it again. I was enthralled with the buildings somewhere made of intricate interlocking stone made from granite and some other substance they said was second only to diamond in hardness (so how did they carve it?) I think they were also saying that sometimes the materials were not to be found in the same region.

Here is the forum where people are discussing the show.

I definitely need to watch again.

No mention of the Outer Space Connection theory of December 24 (?) 2011, but that was more entertainment fodder for an 11 year old girl. ;)

dar512 03-10-2009 12:25 PM

Synchronicity.

I just watched Stargate over the weekend. One of the specials has some of that stuff.

Trilby 03-10-2009 01:16 PM

thanks, Shawnee - it's on my calendar of Things to Watch. :alien:

Shawnee123 03-10-2009 01:26 PM

I think this would be a good time for me to try to figure out how to use my DVR! I need some of those smart aliens to come and help me.

classicman 03-10-2009 01:49 PM

Awesome, Thanks - Everyone who can should watch it and we can discuss here - Hey maybe thats a new thread idea. Sorta like the book-of-the-month ... only different.

Glinda 03-10-2009 03:34 PM

Ooh, I saw it and it was fascinating. A few things that really struck me:

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_7.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

I'm not sold on the idea of ancient astronauts, but this show really opened my eyes to some interesting and extremely mysterious things. Highly recommended!

Flint 03-12-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 543717)
It was initially tied around the book Chariots of the Gods.

I read that Erich von Däniken book when I was a kid and I just popped in, based on the title of this thread, to mention it.

Shawnee123 03-13-2009 10:42 AM

I don't have time to look it up but I think the next showing is tomorrow. Let's all watch it at the same time and pretend we're having a big slumber party. I'll bring the beer; who's got the popcorn?

edit: grr...it's Saturday at 8, I think

Shawnee123 03-13-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 544690)
I read that Erich von Däniken book when I was a kid and I just popped in, based on the title of this thread, to mention it.

They talk to him quite a bit, in this show. I remember reading parts of the book when I was a kid.

Trilby 03-13-2009 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 544815)
I don't have time to look it up but I think the next showing is tomorrow. Let's all watch it at the same time and pretend we're having a big slumber party. I'll bring the beer; who's got the popcorn?

edit: grr...it's Saturday at 8, I think

Deal - but why "grr" - ? coz is at 8pm on Sat? You've a date? :)

Shawnee123 03-13-2009 11:47 AM

Oh lord no! :lol: I edited that part about 3 times between waiting on students and trying to figure out the History Channel's website.

Nah, my shattered heart likes to stay home on the weekends.

Trilby 03-13-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 544844)
Nah, my shattered heart likes to stay home on the weekends.

It's a sunny day - buy yourself some posies on the way home :flower:

Shawnee123 03-13-2009 11:55 AM

Maybe I will. Dammit, now I'm sad again. And I was faking it SOOOO well. :o

Trilby 03-13-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 544849)
Maybe I will. Dammit, now I'm sad again. And I was faking it SOOOO well. :o

NO! Did the posie remark make you sad? Get posies AND some voddie. A nice, cold voddie with two olives. Or a bloody Mary. And salted nuts...and "Casino Royale" starring Daniel Craig...hey...gives me an idea....

classicman 03-13-2009 12:28 PM

I'm gonna watch it - got tivo set up too.

sugarpop 03-14-2009 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie (Post 543439)
I remember the big fuss about the so-called landing strips etched into the landscape (I think in Peru). They were supposedly for ancient astronaut space ships.

So lemme see if I get this. A spaceship capable of travelling trillions of miles through space and time needs a landing strip? Please.

I read all the Daniken books as a kid and remember just shaking my head in amazement at how anything can look like anything if the bias is strong enough.

They are called the Nazca Lines. http://www.crystalinks.com/nasca.html
http://gosouthamerica.about.com/cs/s...a/PerNazca.htm

sugarpop 03-14-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 543393)
I was falling asleep last night watching the History Channel and they had a show on about Ancient Astronauts. There were some really interesting things that they brought up. They had found some ruins that we couldn't create even using today's technology and tools. They talked about "Baghdad batteries" and the ancient Egyptians using light bulbs to see in their chambers; some pyramids/ruins built which perfectly match the solar system and so on. I fell asleep and thats about all I remember. Anyone else seen anything about this? It was most interesting.

I love these kinds of shows. We've lost soooo much knowledge over the millenia, from the burning of THE Library at Alexandria, to all the knowledge destroyed by Christian Priests because they felt it posed a "threat." Very sad.

I know there is speculation about how the Egyptians lit the Lighthouse at Alexandria, one of the seven wonders of the ancient world. I believe sometimes they may have used mirrors and fire/daylight to light things, or crystals. My ex told me the ancient Greeks had steam-powered engines. I don't know if it's true, but if it is, you have to wonder what else they knew, that we lost and took ages to discover again.

hmmm, I guess there is some truth to it... http://campus.udayton.edu/~hume/Steam/steam.htm

Shawnee123 03-14-2009 12:18 PM

Oh, love those photos. The author of the site went to Univ of Dayton!

I was in heaven when I toured The Berkeley at the Maritime Museum in San Diego.

xoxoxoBruce 03-14-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 545095)
We've lost soooo much knowledge over the millenia,...

Because people fall asleep in the middle of the show. ;)
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My ex told me the ancient Greeks had steam-powered engines.
They discovered and demonstrated the principles, but they were thinkers/tinkerers that were living at the top of the heap.
They could have used the priciples to do actual work but then would have had to find something else for the slaves and servants to do.
The principles wouldn't be used until somebody figured out how to make a buck on it

Shawnee123 03-14-2009 12:56 PM

I'm going to the store to prepare for the Ancient A's party. Anyone need anything? :)

xoxoxoBruce 03-14-2009 01:09 PM

Yes, pick me up a ho... please. :blush:

Shawnee123 03-14-2009 01:11 PM

I'll see what's in stock, Bruce. I won't get you some bargain basement ho. Nothing but the best ho for you! :)

xoxoxoBruce 03-14-2009 01:13 PM

Oh thank you. I'm flattered to know you care enough to give the very best.:redface:

Trilby 03-14-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 545156)
Oh thank you. I'm flattered to know you care enough to give the very best.:redface:

Yes, darling, but I'm over here, to your left (if you're facing North, that is) - come pick me up!

xoxoxoBruce 03-14-2009 01:42 PM

Bu, but, then you'd miss the Ancient Astronauts. :o

sugarpop 03-14-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 545153)
Yes, pick me up a ho... please. :blush:

LMAO

sugarpop 03-14-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 545146)
Because people fall asleep in the middle of the show. ;)
They discovered and demonstrated the principles, but they were thinkers/tinkerers that were living at the top of the heap.
They could have used the priciples to do actual work but then would have had to find something else for the slaves and servants to do.
The principles wouldn't be used until somebody figured out how to make a buck on it

Well apparently the people of the ancient world were a lot more ingenious than most of the people of today. Not to be insulting to modern man, but think about it. We can't figure how they did certain things, or built certain things. I mean sure, we could build pyramids today, but could we do it without relying on anything that wasn't here 5000 years ago?

sugarpop 03-14-2009 02:19 PM

Well I am going to the store now to get some ale. :D
Gotta have something to drink while watching the show.

So are we going to discuss it here afterwards or something?

xoxoxoBruce 03-14-2009 02:22 PM

If the methods for building the pyramids were useful or applicable to real life needs, rather than just grandiose projects, they would have been applied and carried down as tribal knowledge. They may very well have, we don't know, but it doesn't matter because we have better ways of building pyramids today.

Happy Monkey 03-14-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 545182)
I mean sure, we could build pyramids today, but could we do it without relying on anything that wasn't here 5000 years ago?

Of course, if we also had some things that they did have - vast amounts of expendable slave labor and a supreme executive who can direct a significant amount of the wealth of the nation into a vanity project.

Shawnee123 03-14-2009 02:26 PM

The show makes the point that the "whole lotta labor" theory is pretty weak; there are still structures that would have been physically impossible without some kind of advanced systems to aid them. Then there's the "why" part of it.

classicman 03-14-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 545182)
We can't figure how they did certain things, or built certain things. I mean sure, we could build pyramids today, but could we do it without relying on anything that wasn't here 5000 years ago?

Some we can do much easier and some we cannot figure out....leading to the show we are all watching tonight. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 545186)
So are we going to discuss it here afterwards or something?

OH yeh - it'll be all the rage tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 545188)
Of course, if we also had some things that they did have - vast amounts of expendable slave labor and a supreme executive who can direct a significant amount of the wealth of the nation into a vanity project.

Exactly - the whole work till you die, literally, too bad we don't have that anymore. (just kidding)

Trilby 03-14-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 545215)
...the whole work till you die, literally, too bad we don't have that anymore. (just kidding)

Ayn Rand - she's not just for breakfast anymore.

Perry Winkle 03-14-2009 04:34 PM

I love the History channel and appreciate it for what it is. They need to rename it. Most of their programs have about as much to do with history as Survivor has to do with survival.

sugarpop 03-14-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 545215)
Some we can do much easier and some we cannot figure out....leading to the show we are all watching tonight. We'll see.

OH yeh - it'll be all the rage tomorrow.

Exactly - the whole work till you die, literally, too bad we don't have that anymore. (just kidding)

(pssst, we do. They just don't know it. Keep it on the down low...)

sugarpop 03-14-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Perry Winkle (Post 545226)
I love the History channel and appreciate it for what it is. They need to rename it. Most of their programs have about as much to do with history as Survivor has to do with survival.

:eek: You mean survival isn't real? *gasp*

Shawnee123 05-15-2009 02:39 PM

Dear Ancient Astronauts:

Please, I beg you, come back and get me early. I'm ready right now. I'll meet you somewhere if that would be more convenient for you. Bags packed, headed towards the Nazca Lines...should arrive in a day or two.

See you soon, and thanks SOOOOO much,

Shawnee

Queen of the Ryche 05-15-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 545188)
Of course, if we also had some things that they did have - vast amounts of expendable slave labor and a supreme executive who can direct a significant amount of the wealth of the nation into a vanity project.

Sure we do - it's called democracy here in the U S of A. tee hee.
Hey, Bri, will you save me a seat? Finally saw the show - Not sure how convinced I am about the whole light bulb thing, and still want more answers please.

spudcon 05-17-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche (Post 565989)
Sure we do - it's called Obama here in the U S of A. tee hee.
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Fixed it for ya.

xoxoxoBruce 05-17-2009 10:10 PM

If you're going to alter a quote, highlight the alteration please.:eyebrow:

spudcon 05-18-2009 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche http://cellar.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Sure we do - it's called Obama here in the U S of A. tee hee.
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Fixed it for ya.

TheMercenary 05-19-2009 10:36 AM

History Channel rocks!


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