Facebook owns you
 

Since The Cellar has a facebook page, this is something we should think about,...or not? This article says that Facebook claims the right to use whatever you put into your Facebook page, even after you terminated your page. Y'all read and let know what ya think.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,494064,00.html

I don't think that's really any different to any other site on the net where you post personal info. Even here on the cellar banned posters still have their content available for others to see, and you can't go back and delete the content if you want to.

On the other hand, you can delete everything off facebook and stop using it. Once it's deleted you're recinding your permission for them to use your content, so surely you'd have a case against them if you ever felt the need, not that I can imagine why it'd be an issue for most people.

They changed the policy on the basis of this story.

Yups. It says Facebook archived everything and they have the right to use it.

Absolutely NOT true and the reason I removed all that I could and deleted my account. Well that and all the shit that got on my computer from their "games" and other crap.

Facebook will have sex with you while you are sleeping and then try to tell you that you just dreamed it.

You say that like it's a bad thing. :haha:

You can click "Delete", but that is no guarantee that the information you wanted to delete is actually gone. I discovered years old information that they kept of an old account of mine after I had "deleted" it. Everything you type on that website is recorded and will stay on their servers for who knows how long, a few years at the least as was my case.

I like Facebook and the ability to connect with people other than talking face to face or on the phone, as I am a person who doesn't enjoying talking on the phone. But stuff like this makes me seriously consider deleting my account. I convinced myself to settle for no personal info other than my email being made available on my profile. At least I can click the spam button for unwanted contact in that department. No such luck in the physical address or cell phone # department.

What's the problem though (aside from the viruses)... what are you putting on there that you suddenly decide you want eradicated?

Doesn't matter, Its the principle.

The problem for me is the deceitfulness of the whole shebang. Facebook's roots are in the pure desire to maintain contact with people you know despite distance from one another. Share a few laughs, talk, etc. Along the way, Facebook realized they wanted to cash in on this wildly increasingly popular free service. Unfortunately, the best way for a gigantic database of personal information to make money from its users is to exploit said information in whatever legal means possible. Facebook has failed miserably at this and as evidenced by this current discontent among its users, is no closer to figuring out how to make real $ from it all without stepping on the toes of the users it relies on. Passive click-through ads on the side of your profile will only make Facebook so much $, in the end they still do not have a real plan to make $ off the users and their information. I don't know about you, but I do not want my street address, cell phone number, or anything copyrighted on Facebook because in essence they are a database of information seeking to exploit that information at the expense of the users' privacy and control of said information. Facebook started as a benign service with which to connect with friends and has grown into a misguided profit seeking monster with little regard for the users on which it has been built up.

Ok, so cell phone number and home address, that makes sense. I wouldn't put that stuff up in the first place though. I don't even think I have my email address visible.

Facebook applications raise privacy fears

City requires Facebook passwords from job applicants
Wow - WTH???

I think in a case like this I would simply say n/a. Wait for them to fire for cause and THEN bring the suit, as ACLU MT is trying to bring.

Yeh me too, but to even ask for your passwords?? What the heck is that about?
I'm not trusting a "potential" employer with that. Thats just insane - What were/are they thinking?

I'm currently loving Facebook. Or more accurately, the people on Facebook.

I missed my 20 year college reunion a couple weeks ago, and many people who went are posting their pictures to the class club group on Facebook. There are 160+ pictures there so far. It's so cool to be seeing pictures of old classmates, even when they aren't on Facebook themselves.

I wish I had been there, but it's nice to at least have all these pictures of the event.

Facebook itself sucks, and I hate it. The user interface is extremely counter-intuitive, and all the apps make it smell like an evil corporation. But the people on Facebook are awesome.

I wish Google would buy Facebook and do it right.

I'm in!

I keep getting emails from facebook, saying this or that person that I know has invited me to sign up and view their facebook page. Delete. :eyebrow:

I don't ... not any longer. I occasionally want to get on for one reason or another, but I don't miss all the baggage at all.

I never signed up and never went on, these are other people signing up and giving my email address to invite.

You don't hear much about it, because it's been legally resolved and was a couple years ago, but Facebook was started by a guy in college who stole the idea from his buddy. It got its start as an evil company.

The buddy claims he stole the idea.

Probably the idea was bounced around between a whole bunch of people.

Most likely, lots of different people were independently having the same idea at around that time. It often happens.

Know something, though? The bright idea is so tiny a part of eventual success that it is nearly irrelevant. It is the huge slog of steady hard work that makes the idea viable, then succesful, that counts.

I've been getting into the games.

I started playing six games, but I've narrowed it down.

Mob Wars
Mafia Wars
Texas Holdem

and my newest favorite BattleStations

BTW, if you want to join my crew (and have me join yours)
http://apps.facebook.com/battlestati...ard+King+Petty

What Happens to Your Facebook Profile When You Die?
 

I dunno what to say here except that my personal experience with them was not good. I guess this is all they can do.

They really shouldn't do that to a metaphor. Or two metaphors. :headshake

Thanks for sharing this very informative link.

So if you post a picture on facebook then myspace, then try and sell the picture, who do you think would win the ensuring law suit?

I will have to make a point to do this. I did get a prompt when I signed on the other day.

Merc, do it ASAP. I'm not on facebook but am checking it out, and stuff I have read suggests that the default positions are for minimum privacy and maximum sharing. Also the settings are in several different menus and stuff.

Vanessa ... you berry wewcome. Fox news ... "very informative" bwahahahaaa.

I am just not sure I can find all the different menus to do it, I am not really FB savy. If anyone has any advice on where to do all the changes I would appreciate it.

tricksy Facebook tried to get everyone to open all their content to public. You need to go in and delete all that default settings.

Since Facebook has my real name on there, I deliberately keep my page very simple, family oriented, and open only to those who know my real name. Any potential employer would find nothing objectionable on there.

And NO, I'm not giving them all my fucking passwords to all my sites. No way, no how.

I don't do Facebook or MySpace or any of that other nonsense.

I've spent all these years avoiding being found on the internet, why should I change now?

I'm kinda with you wolf. However, I do use these sites but work hard to keep anything personally identifiable off of them.

EPIC joins the fight.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/18503..._of_words.html

A little more info about the issue.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...y_options.html

Interview with a Facebook insider. Interesting look at how it works and how it's changing. Also the people that work there.

wow - I bet that sort of thing goes on a lot more than we sheep realize.

web 2.0 suicide machine
 

http://suicidemachine.org/


Need to disappear from Facebook or Twitter? Now you can scrub yourself from the Internet with Web 2.0 Suicide Machine, a nifty service that purges your online presence from these all-consuming social networks. Since its Dec. 19 launch, Suicide Machine has assisted more than 1,000 virtual deaths, severing more than 80,500 friendships on Facebook and removing some 276,000 tweets from Twitter.

From here

Its getting even worse ... Damn glad I don't play any of them.

Yeah, but if any of your friends play them, then your FB info is compromised already.

I think at this point, if anyone thinks there is anything private about what they put on FB, they have a serious lack of understanding about how FB works, regardless of their settings.

Well .... Shit then. I'm just gonna post my SS#. bank account info, PIN#'s address, phone and mothers maiden name along with all my passwords.
That way I won't worry that its being stolen. :greenface

I feel better about being pre-millennial now. Now I just need to edit my gazillion cellar posts...

I still don't have a FaceBook/Twitter account. I am unable to see anything useful in this system. I hate giving away any personnal information on the web.

I only maintain a Viadeo account for professional purpose.

And usually, if asked for an email, I provide one that is hosted by google/hotmail/whatever.

Facebook is an easy way to stay in touch with friends. I hate the corporation known as Facebook, but I like the substantive updates I get from friends, and I like to be able to easily update them as well.

Well, I don't have that many friends. And we all have e-mails and mobile phones.

I knew it, you're a pornographer. :haha:

Yeah, otherwise you would have to actually interact with friends, instead of leaving notes.

It seems suicide machine is too busy. Luckily, I have not been a facebook fiend for long so I manually deleted all my comments and everyone's comments to me and all my photos, etc. THEN I deleted my account. I guess if you deleted your account w/o deleting your content, your shit is still up there.

Let me know if you can see any of my shit up there. I'm curious.

I do feel a lot better, I'm not totally sold on the need for the internet.

I'm pretty sure I saw it up there in the last day or two. Maybe on the cellar group page? Just your name and mug shot.

But when I look for you there, you don't show up for me.

When did you take it down?

About an hour ago

Facebook just let me know that it's my dead cousin's birthday. So I went to his wall. Lots of nice messages there. Most people are saying "Happy Birthday, RIP," and share fond memories, but some don't seem to realize he died. It was a month ago.

Kinda weird.

Ouch. Sorry to hear that. RIP cous.

I plan to leave a folder in my files "in case of death" which has instructions to close out all my net stuff. How else would you do it if your heirs or family don't know?

Although I vigorously backpedal whenever I see something that wants to share my FB info, I am kinda liking the various commercial and organization pages. Lots of discounts, news and stuff.

That, and family photo sharing, are pretty good reasons imo to stick around. Carefully.

there exists such a program, a failsafe for such things

If you don't log in personally, it will delete history, bookmarks and such potentially embarrassing things. Use with caution however. If you go on vacation and forget it, you will come home to a sterilized computer.

I personally don't care for facebook at all, sooo

recently, on several sites, when I hit "back", nothing happens. I look at the site list, and Facebook has snuck in between the two sites on the forward/back list, even on computers on which I have never looked at facebook. I've seen this happen with other list-sneakers as well; before Facebook, it was often Google. It must be some stat-gathering redirect thing.

It's annoying.

I finally broke down and got a Facebook account. I put fake data in every field and used a spamcatcher email address, where I made a rule about anything coming from facebook is spam. Same with Domino's and a few other sites.

I do not game there, I only use it to browse my friend's accounts. I never accept friend requests, so don't ask. That leads to the dark side!

So I am relatively safe from Facebook bad things. My antivirus is up to date and the same goes for my malware killer(s). Added to the fact that I rarely go there and I ought to be okay.

if anyone on the Cellar is active on FB and interested in being my FB friend, please pm me. I try to keep my flist small, but I'd like a few more friends/real people that are not connected to my work, and more of a variety of people (which we certainly have here).

no sweat if you're not interested!

Now they want your passwords?!?! I think not.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technolog...-login/71480/#