PETA
 

These people never cease to provide me with days of entertainment.

PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2009-...-protest_N.htm

Ah. Something we can agree on.

Passion. They haz it.

Nuttiness. They have an excess of it.

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What is the Kanine Kennel Klub?
We're a new premium dog registry, and hope to become the dog registry.
Individually, we're dog lovers who want all pet owners to have beautiful, healthy
pets with untainted bloodlines.

Why do we need the KKK?
Once there were very few clubs for registering dogs, just one per country.
These were selective on the canines they accepted in order to maintain the
uniqueness of each breed. The dogs they recognized were pure, wholesome,
beautiful dogs.

Unfortunately, profiteers entered the market, and began registering just about
anything. Dozens of dog registries popped up like letters in alphabet soup.
Some of these groups will even register dogs from completely different breeds!
These so-called registries have a "miscellaneous" category for what they call
"designer breeds"--and what everyone of sense calls "mutts." They will accept
anything from chihuahua - dachshunds (called "chiweenies"), to Labrador
retriever - poodle mixes ("Labradoodles") to English bulldog - shih-tzu crosses
("bullshihtz").

Even the formerly discriminating American Kennel Club (AKC) is considering
registering some crossbreeds, including the puerile-named cock-a-poo!

It's time for a return to purity.

When did the KKK begin?
We started in 2009. Our first major appearance was at the Westminster
Kennel Club show, held by the American Kennel Club in New York on February
9, 2009. Our exhibit only appeared for an hour, but proved extremely popular.
The KKK inspired many thoughtful questions, a great number of photographs,
and even articles and stories in major media.

What are the plans of the KKK?
The Kanine Kennel Klub is dedicated to "building a better tomorrow by building
a better dog." The dog truly is "Man's best friend," and we want to be the dog's
best friend.

How can I register my dog? Do you accept registration from other
registries?
Unfortunately, we can't accept a dog as purebred on the basis of what some
other registry claims. So many registries have been stamping their approval on
whatever walks in with four legs that their registries are meaningless.

Fortunately, with the advances of modern technology, a simple DNA test can
reveal if your dog is pure bred or not. If you dog is shown to qualify by an
approved laboratory, you will soon be able to register your dog with us for as
little as $25. We plan to begin registering dogs very soon.

What do I do if my dog doesn't qualify?
Fortunately, there are a number of humane societies that are happy to take in
unwanted animals. These will relieve you of your burden in a manner that's
easy on the family, and usually quite affordable.

How can I contact the Kanine Kennel Klub?
You may send us an email at our address below.

Visit us at kkklub.com
Email us at dogs at kkklub dot com

(Yes, the email and website are real--or will be in a day or two. The site is already registered)

a pd response to above mentioned Peta action (article)...

you guys are hard core.

From their website:

Those people's heads really are shaped that way.

Some PETA people might be a little whacky, but I really like PETA and what they stand for. Animals need protection from people. PETA might go overboard in some cases, but they do a lot of good too.

You are killing me here. Without animal research we would still be drilling a hole in your head when you got a head ache. :rolleyes:
PETA is a quasi-domestic terrorist organization. Right up there with ELF.

I don't care, and I think that's bullshit anyway. I don't believe in using and torturing animals for the benefit of people. And it's completely untrue that medicine would not have progressed without animal research. Animals have COMPLETELY DIFFERENT biology than humans, so a lot of the research is useless on people. Animals are living, breathing creatures, with feelings. They feel pain. Why is it OK to use an animal for research, but not people? Any research that is for the sake of people should be done on people.

I understand your passion. You are wrong.

Wow, really? Do you really believe that or are you just stirring?

I don't think so.

yes, I really believe that. It is morally wrong to torture animals in order to benefit people. There are too many people on the planet as it is.

And, there ARE other ways to do research that are effective. There really is no need to abuse animals the way some researchers do. Do you know what goes on in some labs? Seriously. Would you think it was OK to subject people to those experiments?

Great, next time you or someone you love gets sick we will withhold all treatment that you could have had if it related to animal research and you will die. Got a head injury? You're are fucked, Got a poisoning, sorry about that, you will die, how about an exposure to a chemical weapon! nope, you will be dead in a few minutes. Hey, got cancer? Ouch, you are way fucked. Have a nice life. it's going to be short.

So what. There are too many damn people on the planet anyway. I really want to know that animals had their heads bashed in just so we could figure out how to fix them, so my injury could be treated. NOT. If my head is injured, just kill me. You know me. You know I don't value human life over any other kind of life.

Are you Hindu?

No. I'm a witch.

I firmly believe you have every right to take that position.

But keep in mind, the carnivores and omnivores would bash your head in if they could, without a second thought. ;)

Yes, but animals usually do not attack unless provoked, hungry, or protecting their young or their territory. Or in the case of predators, like cats, when they are teaching their young to hunt.

What about Doctors teaching their interns to heal? :D

Ok, lets just round up some illegals and bash them in the head and do experiments on them, ok? :rollseyes:

http://www.hsus.org/animals_in_research/animal_testing/

Humans usually don't hurt animals without a reason either.

I would support efforts to discourage exceptions to that.

PETA the name that is synonymous with hypocrisy

Which has what to do with what?

I'm a witch and likely have entirely different ideas than you about how the world hangs together, which is entirely different from how Elspode might approach the same questions.

You know what they say, ask 10 witches about an issue, and you're likely to get 15 to 20 different opinions.

At risk of derailing the thread ... based on other statements you have made, what is your position on a woman's right to choose?

Those are precisely the reasons that I attack.

Maybe sp believes in Animism, which is part of the religion for some Wiccans.

I has to do with being asked if she was Hindu. Don't think she was relating it to her opinion on animal cruelty or PETA.

Honestly I think pure breeding is bad as well, and parading the animals around judging them on how close they fit the mold. Pure breeding usually = inbreeding.
That is the issue PETA is addressing in that situation, and I think they are accurate, although extreme, by comparing it to race superiority.
I think PETA has its far-out there whacked up ideas. I also think they have some great ones.
Pitbulls are dangerous dogs, if the people who own them cannot be responsible, which often times they are not, then they should not own a pitbull. I've seen the damage first hand that a puppy can cause, and I thank my lucky stars I was able to prevent the it from killing my black lab, which with its jaws, it could have done easily despite that my black lab was twice its size at the time. I think it would be best if the breed was not allowed to further procreate. Also, just like any other type of dog, if the owner shows themselves to be irresponsible, the dog should be taken away from them. I think people who own particularly aggressive breeds of dogs, not just pitbulls, should have to keep the dog registered and adhere to strict protocols.

To address the issue of animal testing, I know that we have benefited from it, and might continue to do so. There are, or being developed alternative methods to that, and it is the ideal. I don't think we have the right to use animals however we want. Eating meat is different, those animals, hopefully lived a decent life, and died quick relatively painful deaths. Not like the animals in testing that suffer long term.
We are overpopulated, we need to cull our procreation as well. I think this needs to be a social change, government will just fuck it up. People need to change their mindset that they are entitled to have children, and that having children is the ultimate fulfillment. That stems from our basic instinct to survive and pass on our genes, and our need to live on through our kids. I hope that we can evolve past that, we're like lemmings, not knowing when it is necessary to stop. I hear a lot of people who also seem to think they somehow did their child a favor by giving them life, they didn't.

How is any of that "bad" exactly?

I will focus on animal rights once human rights are addressed....

They are not mutually exclusive.

If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man.
- St Francis of Assisi

I disagree with that. Obviously, groups that violently abuse power on animals are likely to violently abuse power on humans as well but it is not an absolute. Humans should be taken care of first, other animals can then go.

*Note, when I talk about not focusing on animal rights, I am talking about animal rights that will hurt humans. I am not talking about senseless killing and sadist behavior.

What I was trying to relay is that there is a commonality of belief amongst Hindus that just really doesn't exist amongst witches, or even witches of a particular sort, such as Wiccans.

Since human rights will always be an issue anyway,
there will be other people around who will take care of advocating for animal rights.

Someone asked me if I was Hindu. I simply answered the question. I was not bringing that into the argument.

I know witches are very diverse groups of people, with all kinds of different ideas. I have known witches who weren't environmentalists, which to me, goes against the whole belief system. But part of being of a witch, at least in the sense that I call myself one, is also the idea that everyone is their own authority (I do not believe in heirarchical structures). If you know anything about Reclaiming or Feri, that is the system I follow.

To answer your question, I fully support a woman's right to choose.

And those are valid reasons to attack. But my argument for not using animals for testing follows that logic. At least it does in my mind.

I am a petatarian. I only eat PETA'Z.

I like Pez!

People don't realize that the Animal Rights movement has nothing to do with the welfare of the animals - genuine animal welfare is being sacrificed for a political victory over animal owners and their right to have pets.

And parts of it are nothing but fund raising scams.:(

Then only selected portions of life are sacred to you.

Why? When you say life, you include all forms of life, and that includes bacteria and viruses and all kinds of things. Do you take medicine when you get sick? Then you are killing a lifeform. Do you swat mosquitos or flies or kill cockroaches? Killing a lifeform.

Believing all things are sacred does not mean you never destroy anything. It means you destroy as little as possible, and only when you really need to (we have to eat, one way or another, one form of life is dying to nourish us, whether plant, or animal). I do not have a problem with people eating meat, or drinking milk, I have a problem with the way the animals are raised and killed. We have to sometimes cut down trees, but that doesn't mean we should indiscriminately support destroying forests or trees, or clearcutting, for the sake of having wood. I am part Sioux, and that philosophy is a part of me. It is very akin to the principles of witchcraft. If you are a witch, you know there are creator/destroyer deities, and in practicing, you call on those attributes. In order to create, sometimes we have to destroy. The whole point is to do it honorably and mindfully.

And ftr, I do not think an embryo is the same thing as a human being. After an embryo reaches a certain point, I don't think women should have abortions, but I am not willing to force that on another, because they might not believe the same as I do. I don't think abortions should be used as birth control, but I also don't believe a woman should be forced to have a baby she doesn't want or cannot afford. Some women use birth control and still get pregnant. I don't think they should have to pay for that because it isn't their fault.

As I said, I don't agree with everything PETA says or does. I have 3 cats. I have always had cats. I don't think some people should have pets, because they don't really care for them. They abuse them or they neglect them.

Case in point, that woman who had the chimp that had to be put down, the way she treated that animal, that was abuse. Animals are animals, they still have wildness in them. Chimps are not meant to drink wine and eat steak and lobster and basically be treated like a companion.

I like your thinking, Sugarpop.

Even though I support animal rights/welfare groups, I sometimes think that its pointless, especially after witnessing responses like the ones posted here. So many people love to be against PETA without considering how just its presence is an important reminder that humans need to take care with how they use and consume the other inhabitants they share this planet with. Unfortunately, I think as a species, humans act just like a virus and they will keep cosuming/destroying this world until there is nothing left.

People are "against" PETA because PETA does zany, wild, attention-grabbing stuff. And, they say insane shit sometimes. But I do give to the ASPCA :D coz i like :apaw: critters.

Does the Christian Children's Fund tone of the new ASPCA commercials bother anyone?

Maybe we should censor them!

Thanks Pico. :)

As Agent Smith said in "The Matrix," "...I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure..."

Not that I agree with that totally, but I certainly do in part.

The Matrix was a brilliant movie. There are so many quotes from it and just the whole concept of people being 'asleep' their whole lives says so much about human beings.

The person I saw for counselling last year often brought it up during discussions about people's points of view and what might be their motivations.

yepperaroo. The time is NOW. Be in the NOW. Live each moment IN the moment, as if it is your last. (Not that I always do that. It's incredibly hard to be fully awake and mindful.)

yeh - spend every dime you have every day. Do not care what the world will be like in the future. Be the ultimate in selfishness. WTF?

In that case I will not be spending a damm dime.

How did you get THAT from what I said? I was talking about being completely present, vs living in the past or the future. I wasn't talking about not taking steps to insure you HAVE a future...

*heavy sigh*

This is the internet. We read everything possible into each little statement and emphasize the ones that we like the least, no matter how imaginary.

You have to read each post for all possible meanings,...

...and that is why.

Michael Vick to become PETA spokesman.

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1666334

Hahahaha

Do you think he will be able to do it with a straight face?

Of course. It is his chance to kill even more dogs.

I am convinced that PETA is a massive IRL troll.