Bush goes out his with usual class
 

Blair House has 119 rooms with 35 bathrooms, and no one was booked at the time of the request. Sometime after that, Bush offered the house to John Howard, the former Prime Minister of Australia who is set to receive a Medal of Freedom... for one night.

Got to hand it to Bush, he's consistent. :rolleyes:

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well I don't think Obama would have wanted to share a bathroom with johnny. lol

God knows what he's getting that medal for btw. I think just because he and George hit it off mostly.

That's the butt-kissing medal. Blair is getting one too.

So Obama is staying a block away from the Blair house in the Hay Adams hotel. I'm not sure who is paying for that. It's a very expensive place. Nice though.

It's a pain too, because they closed the streets around the hotel, and there's a courthouse there that we use a lot in my firm. Can't take a cab there any more to do filings. And with the last few days of heavy cold driving rains, a cab would have been nice for the people doing the filings.

How many times will George Jr so pervert the meaning of that medal. Previous recipients include Bremmer who contributed to the unnecessary death of thousands of Americans in Iraq. Bremmer got the medal only for being a wacko extremist who worked for the political agenda; not for America. Who worked for the wacko extremists which means against freedom.

What did John Howard do to promote freedom? He supported George Jr in destroying America's credibility all over the world.


If Howard deserves it, then so does Bellisconi of Italy. Who got freedom? Corruption, bribery, and other crimes. Let freedom ring. Or save that medal from another destruction by George Jr.

:lol2:

And again it is time to talk about what Merc has done to that whore he calls a wife. Oh. Did she commit suicide yet? Good for her. Now she is in a better place away from the wacko extremist who makes everyone's life miserable. He even lies about his military service.

Ah, the double standard continues at The Cellar.

holy across the line, batman

I see. It is acceptable for TheMercenary to cross the line? Double standard? I defined where the line was long ago AND how I would respond. You are completely wrong. As I said previously, if this was permitted, then I would take it to what he understands. This is the new Cellar until you start posting about the reason for this new tone.

You want this tone to end? Then go after then only reason for it. As Brianna noted, he is posting this constantly meaning every thread of intellligent discussion has been perverted into name calling. Did you like that? Well this is what happens when one condoms the constant posts from TheMercenary. Not my description. Brianna defined the problem. Same TheMercenary attackes were routine against others such as piercehawkeye 45 and Radar.

Welcome to the Cellar that TheMercenary wants and has created again. Did he not cause this new tone previously? Yes. And he has done it again. Maybe his whore smells too badly lately even for him. Welcome to what TheMercenary calls intelligent posting.

There is no double standard. You have routinely turned another discussion nasty as the odor from your wife. Welcome again to the Cellar attitude that you have again inspired.

FTR

Wow. A three letter word. Not having attacked other posters today has caused even less intelligence? Let's see how many others such as radar and piercehawkeye45 you can attack today.

Fail.

i must have missed a bit of backstory

please. dont fill me in

Not sure there is one. If there is I don't know it.

Knock that shit off.:eyebrow:

I think someone needs a timeout - maybe its me, but that is so far over the line in so many threads.

It's all over the poly forums. Just leave them alone. Maybe they'll finish each other off and we can stop with the pissing matches.

Pissing matches are allowed. This is way beyond that. So if anyone wants to change their Mod vote, do it now, because I'm not going to stand for this shit and I have the power to back up my threats.

I can't believe anyone would say something like that on this forum. Regardless of what you think of the actual poster, there's no need to say nasty stuff about their family.

I vote for a temporary ban at the least.

Personally I think the pair of them have been out of line for days. That said, tw crossed the line big style when he started beating on Merc's missus. I understand why tw went down that route. He's trying to make a point about Merc's attitude in here. I can see what he's trying to do, but I think he has gone about it the wrong way. I don't care how nasty anybody in here is, that shouldnt open up their spouse to attack.

I don't think it should result in a ban though. Not unless both get banned. And I don't want that to happen. Annoying as this shit is it's all part of the Cellar.

That said, it ain't up to me *smiles* I'll support whatever the mods go with on this.

ditto

If Bruce wants to give them a cooling off period, I fully support him. Mercs nonsense was designed to set tw off, but tw stepped way over the line.

That was never the intention. I have no idea where that crap came from.

Every time he posts, you shout him down.

I don't see it that way. I just show the common thread of the same old stuff. It is never anything new and it is never referenced or cited. It is totally redundant. I don't feel that any of that warranted the references to my wife. None of you would tolerate that if it was done to you.

TW, I sometimes agree with what you post, but you did cross the line on this one.

The exchanges between you and Merc seem to bring out the worst in both of you, but IMO he has not stepped over it as badly as you have.

If you don't want to be labeled a 'wacko' by even more people, I suggest sticking to facts and opinions at based on facts.

On the original topic of the thread:

The Obamas request was reasonable. I would think that the incoming presidential family would fulfill the requirement for 'VIP guest'. Denying the request was either pettiness or incompetence.

I agree, all 3 of them have been stinking up the joint for weeks. But since when is calling someone or their spouse names *coughspexxvetcough* a bannable offense? Like Dana said, it's part of the cellar.

Of course you don't. You also like your dripping wife.

Others - did I get your attention? Good. Now deal with the problem and not its symptom. TheMercenary has been doing destructive posts to the Celllar for a long time. Adress it or expect me to post in the same tone.

You don't have to like it. But if you don't address the problem, then don't expect a solution.

Hardly. I have been quite tolerant. And now I am only doing what he has been doing for many months. To discuss his dripping wife is consistent with how he post. Attack the symptom or begin dealing with the problem that started this long ago. Don't post at me. You know who started this. You want it to stop. Then go after the problem and the old tw returns.

My suddenly tone change got your attention. Now, don't deal with what is obvious. Deal with the problem. I have nothing to apologize for. My change of tone now was quite justified long ago. Brianna defined the problem elsewhere using the word "constant". Did you join a rebuttal of the problem or ignore it until I made it impossible to ignore?

Gosh oh golly tw that sounds like a threat.
It's 2 pm on 1-11-09 and if I see one more crack about Merc's wife, you're outta here. That's not a threat, it's a promise.

forgetaboutit.

And nothing I posted was a threat. It was facts - in the same way that TheMercenary posts his facts.

Instead, address the only problem. I will only be outta here because you got silly emotional rather than deal with the problem. Where is that post more than threatening TheMercenary for personal attacks? April and Oynxcougar got banned for much less. Banning only because I finally got your attention? Banning me only because I finally decided to retaliate? How is it that one who has been here longer than you saw no reasons to ban those others or Barak - but see TheMercenary as far more destuctive to the Celar?

Get your head on straight Bruce. I am intentionally testing you to think logically or emotionally – to stop ignoring the problem. Logic, my friend. I am in only one day replying, in kind and fully justified, to months of attacks. I am only the symptom. Can you deal with problem or do you always attack the symptom? Notice how TheMercenary's personal attack posts have only increased in numbers and intensity while you remain silent – encourage it.

At some point the noise level of all three become intollerably irritating. Name-calling is one thing but making the board unreadable is what gets my goat.

No, you get your head on strait. I know what Merc has been doing and I find it damn annoying, I'm sure there are a lot of members that will agree. I also find your repeated diatribe, mental midget/wacko extremists/Rush Limbaugh, just as annoying. But the only way to fix that is censorship and that's even worse.

You, however, have crossed the line by bringing his wife into it, and that's going to stop. Got it?

And that has occurred only in direct response to his replies. I did not start this. But I damn well expect to push the Cellar into a decision. Do we return to the Cellar I have particapted in for 20 years. Or do we condom the Limbaugh style accusations that are routine only from select wacko extemists.

But again, Bruce chooses to challenge the symptom rather than scold the problem. Guess what Bruce. I got your attention. Now start making a decision whether you want to solve the many month problem or attack the one day old symptom. Your every post ignores and therefore encourages the problem. The tone of the Cellar made bad by those who post attacks rather than contribute to knowledge.

All this gets solved simply. You deal with the problem AND you don't see me posting equally in kind. I am the symptom here. So why do I keep posting that same statement? Maybe you keep criticizing the symptom rather than attack the problem. He does this to more than just me. Brianna used the word 'constant' to describe it. Do you also ignore that post or instead deal with the problem. You damn well know I would not be posting this way if the problem did not exist.

Piss and vinegar I leave for a week and you folks are tearin it up! :corn:

You can't even get that right, Brianna was referring to a different annoying habit than you are.
As for the rest of your ultimatum... don't make me spit on your soul.

Why is this crossing the line? These knuckleheads have been trading insults for so freaking long.... why does this particular insult cross the line?

Well, partly because she's not here, not involved in this pissing match, but mostly because I said so. ;)

Life is full of uncertainty.

that concerns me greatly. you wink, but i wonder.

if tw gets banned over this.....then you'd better ban spexxvet, and merc and me too.

If she's not here I really don't see the problem... But other people seemed to think it crossed a line as well and I'm am seriously wondering why. Unless you feel that a woman's character or worth is defined by her chastity, why would you get bent out of shape by some crazy person calling her a "whore"?

Intolerably annoying I'll give you, all 3 of them are imo. But if we're going to start banning people for content, shouldn't we at least discuss it first? The cellar is a community, right? And while I really appreciate how much you personally do for the cellar, but I'm uncomfortable with that giving you license to ban people who haven't crossed a previously established line.

People, let's all take a page from the excellent movie FORGETTING SARAH MARSHALL and sodomize intolerance!

hope that helps.

btw--all three of them? I thought it was just tw and merc. Who else is being all crazed and stuff?

My reasoning is that it's inappropriate to bring someone's spouse into a discussion in a derogatory manner simply for the sake of insult.

My personal opinion is that this type of behaviour is never appropriate regardless of what forum you're on although I do accept that other people have different views. It's just bad form to insult someone who is not in a position to defend themselves.

With regard to the situation between Merc and tw; my opinion is that Merc has been goading tw with his quotes, but (and it's a big but) he's really just been posting what a lot of the posters here see/think when they see another tw post that goes on for ages. I don't condone it and I think it's childish, but it's true that the truth often comes from the mouths of babes. If tw were to respond in kind by doing the same thing to Merc I wouldn't care. I'd say let them both go hard for as long as they like, but what tw said was simply disgusting and rude. There was no humorous intent (which I believe was Mercs intention in the first place but may have gone too far), simply nastiness.

I think this site is well moderated and while I see your point with regard to this issue, I believe a moderator should have licence to make a decision based on his or her assessment of the situation without having to be called to answer for it. Whether others deserve to be banned or not is not in question here. The issue is that Bruce has warned tw that his post was inappropriate and tw can either choose to ignore that warning and proceed to banning for future similar offences, or he can continue to post here.

If Bruce had simply banned him without a warning I think it would have been rough, but he has been warned (and I assume that warning would apply to anyone else thinking of being just as rude). It's up to tw what he chooses to do from here.

you. we were talking about you. ALL. THIS. TIME.


(this was a response to Brianna) eta because Ali got caught in the middle....

Someone let me know so I can let loose with my diatribe. I am ready.

What, that was really you and not Jinx. Fuck off, ya cock.:lol2:

I do. Because it's unacceptable in every society, not just here. He went beyond that, but in any case I don't buy your strawman.
Uncomfortable or not, that's the way it is. It can be changed.

What strawman?

That strawman.

So you're not taking issue with the whore comments specifically, it's entirely about tw insulting someone who is not a member?

:rolleyes:

Good God. If it were you LJ would be loading a shotgun.

actually, merc...spexvet did get pretty nasty and graphic about jinx when we were going at it.....no one wanted him banned for it though.....toughen up. you prodded him relentlessly and he snapped out at you. move on.

I have. Note I have only made one softball comment since yesterday. I have received my marching orders from the peeps in charge and that is that.

I didn't say that. Let me spell it out for you.
There is never an occasion when insulting a member's family contributes to the conversation. That makes it intolerably irritating. Therefore, unless introduced to the discussion by the member, their family is off limits.

I didn't say you said anything, I asked questions I wanted to know the answer to. Thank you for gracing me with a response sire.

That's why I detailed my position.
I'm not your sire, nor your dam.
btw, both are family members and off limits.

So are Griff's goats. :p

Just a question. Since I often say things like 'Dazza says...' does that mean he's within the limits and people can take potshots if they like?

I've been thinking about it and can't come up with a decision either way really because usually when I quote him, it's because he's said it when I've read something out to him from the cellar so in effect, it is him saying it. On the other hand, if someone wanted to question his opinions which I've quoted, I'd hope they'd stick to the opinions in question and not resort to personal insults.