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classicman 01-07-2009 07:43 PM

Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent
 
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TOLEDO, Ohio (AP)Jan 7 01:38 PM US/Eastern -
Joe The Plumber is putting down his wrenches and picking up a reporter's notebook.

The Ohio man who became a household name during the presidential campaign says he is heading to Israel as a war correspondent for the conservative Web site pjtv.com.

Samuel J. Wurzelbacher (WUR'-zuhl-bah-kur) says he'll spend 10 days covering the fighting.

He tells WNWO-TV in Toledo that he wants to let Israel's "'Average Joes' share their story."

Wurzelbacher gained attention during the final weeks of the campaign when he asked Barack Obama about his tax plan.

He later joined Republican John McCain on the campaign trail. At one stop, he agreed with a McCain supporter who asked if he believed a vote for Obama was a vote for the death of Israel.
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Information from: WNWO-TV, http://www.nbc24.com/
LOL - that is all.

richlevy 01-07-2009 08:41 PM

Joe the freaking Plumber? If he gets captured by Hamas, do we have to take him back? Can't we tell them that we'll drop all sanctions if they'll just keep him forever?

Hasn't anyone told him that he's already at 16 minutes and 30 seconds?

classicman 01-07-2009 09:20 PM

Whats even funnier is its an NBC affiliate

xoxoxoBruce 01-07-2009 09:52 PM

Why is that funny? :confused:

Shawnee123 01-08-2009 07:17 AM

Oh noes!

Now I have seen everything.

glatt 01-08-2009 07:41 AM

Who knows? Maybe he will be good, in an entertaining but not fact-filled kind of way. TV news is all crap anyway. He won't be any worse.

Shawnee123 01-08-2009 07:50 AM

It's true that he might end up not sucking, but to say that he couldn't be worse is quite a stretch: he could be much much worse. Do you have any idea how bad that could be? :p

classicman 01-08-2009 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 519959)
Why is that funny?

I was expecting it to be a Fox affiliate.

Undertoad 01-08-2009 08:23 AM

It's an NBC affiliate reporting that Joe's going overseas... to report for Pajamas Media, not any TV outlet.

I'm 100% for citizen journalism because professional journalism is in a shambles, but this is something else entirely. Not sure what. Joe can give us some information, but he's no Michael Totten or Mike Yon, who are really smart guys with some decent background to understand where they are and what's going on. Those are citizen journalists with better cred than professional journalists. If I want a report on Gazan plumbing Joe might be of interest, otherwise he's just some guy.

Shawnee123 01-08-2009 08:26 AM

Some guy who already used up his 15 minutes.

TheMercenary 01-08-2009 09:43 AM

I love it. The guy who got beat up by all the lefties and the press is going to make a living off his 15 min of fame. :lol2:

Shawnee123 01-08-2009 10:52 AM

Beat up by the lefties?

What planet do you inhabit again?

I love how a guy who was elected president gets nothing but "boy he's gonna suck I know it and I know it and I know it even before he starts" but some doofus who thinks he's going to be a journalist without any experience other than shit-pipes gets accolades from you how great he will be.

To me it only proves how dumb our society is when doling out "celebrity" status. Sheep. Bahhhh. No, that's not fair to sheep. They're smarter than a lot of folks.

:lol:

SteveDallas 01-08-2009 10:58 AM

Clone thread:

"Joe the Plumber to become bore correspondent"

Shawnee123 01-08-2009 11:27 AM

Joe the Plumber to become whore codependent.

TheMercenary 01-08-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 520057)
Beat up by the lefties?

What planet do you inhabit again?

I love how a guy who was elected president gets nothing but "boy he's gonna suck I know it and I know it and I know it even before he starts" but some doofus who thinks he's going to be a journalist without any experience other than shit-pipes gets accolades from you how great he will be.

To me it only proves how dumb our society is when doling out "celebrity" status. Sheep. Bahhhh. No, that's not fair to sheep. They're smarter than a lot of folks.

:lol:

WTF? What planet are you from? You missed the beating Joe the Plumber got in the press? Holy crap you must have been asleep during the run up to the election. It only proves how dumb our society is when idiots think this guy was not crucified in the press. What a bunch of sheep. :sheep:

xoxoxoBruce 01-09-2009 12:36 AM

I can see why you would think that asshole is a hero. :rolleyes:

Pico and ME 01-09-2009 11:02 AM

I read somewhere that when asked if he was worried about being blown up by a hamas rocket, he replied that he was pretty sure that since he is a Christian, God will look out for him.

:eek: WTF?

Shawnee123 01-09-2009 11:52 AM

Bwaaahaaa...then why doesn't he just step in front of all the children who are getting hurt?

What a maroon.

Trilby 01-09-2009 02:20 PM

Did anyone see the bit on the Daily Show? It was a clip of Joe stating his big concern was his possible inability to "pronunciacation" the names. Or maybe the word he used was "pronunciacate"---"YOu know, how to pronunciacate the names..." plus, I hear he's reading all the newsjournals Palin read, so...there's that.

I agree with richlevy. If Hamas gets him, they have to keep him. He's a bigger idiot than even Merc.

TheMercenary 01-10-2009 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 520584)
Did anyone see the bit on the Daily Show? It was a clip of Joe stating his big concern was his possible inability to "pronunciacation" the names. Or maybe the word he used was "pronunciacate"---"YOu know, how to pronunciacate the names..." plus, I hear he's reading all the newsjournals Palin read, so...there's that.

I agree with richlevy. If Hamas gets him, they have to keep him. He's a bigger idiot than even Merc.


Trilby 01-10-2009 12:20 PM

Merc--I take offense at your constant liberal-democrat bashing. It's CONSTANT. Look at your "watching the radical liberal monkey spanking it" theme. It grows OH SO OLD. Hey, if that plumber dude seems like your kind of guy...uh, good for you, cookie-boy.

tw 01-10-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 520897)
Merc--I take offense at your constant liberal-democrat bashing. It's CONSTANT.

Of course its constant. His wife loves him for his intelligence - that is his penis. No wonder he only feels comfortable among those who post profanity and love whores such as his wife.

The Cellar is back to reflecting what TheMercenary is. There is good reason why TheMercenary was drafted during Nam (and then lied about his service). His intelligence was so low that he could not even stay in any school. And so he must constantly harm other Cellar dwellars as any good Limbaugh worshipper would.

When did TheMercenary contribute to any thread. He cannot. He does exactly what wacko extremists do - attack others.

UT - the Cellar is again what the wackos want it to be. A place to called TheMercenary's wife what she really is - a whore. Do you like what TheMercenary does because he only understands profanity and attacking other posters? Sex addicts attack others when even the wife will not give it up. But then, can you blame her?

TheMercenary 01-10-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 520897)
Merc--I take offense at your constant liberal-democrat bashing. It's CONSTANT. Look at your "watching the radical liberal monkey spanking it" theme. It grows OH SO OLD. Hey, if that plumber dude seems like your kind of guy...uh, good for you, cookie-boy.

Consistant, not constant. I take offense at much of what you post as well, but I will not whine about it.

TheMercenary 01-10-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 520935)
Of course its constant. His wife loves him for his intelligence - that is his penis. No wonder he only feels comfortable among those who post profanity and love whores such as his wife.

So where is the moral outrage Cellar?

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.....TheMercenary .....TheMercenary ...... Limbaugh .....TheMercenary.....wacko extremists.....wackos .......TheMercenary's wife what she really is - a whore......TheMercenary....
Again? What no outcry from the liberals about personal attacks?

dar512 01-10-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 520948)
So where is the moral outrage Cellar?
Again? What no outcry from the liberals about personal attacks?

You are both in the wrong for using personal attacks.

But I don't feel any real sense of outrage -- I think you guys deserve each other.

TheMercenary 01-10-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 520960)
You are both in the wrong for using personal attacks.

But I don't feel any real sense of outrage -- I think you guys deserve each other.

I am not calling his wife a whore or saying she likes to be raped. You condone that?

tw 01-10-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 520960)
You are both in the wrong for using personal attacks.

You can put an end to this quickly by going after the person I am only plagiarizing - TheMercenary. I am only duplicating the tone of what he does routinely to harm. We went through this before because of his tone. And here we are again only because his wife got smart enough to withhold sex. This is the tone that TheMercenary has been posting for months. We all should do as he has been doing. Or dar512 should be addressing the only reason for the new Cellar tone. Your choice. I do not routinely attack others to hurt. He does what he understands - when you remained silent these many months.

Of course, when he screws women dripping gonorrhea, well, eventually that will silence him. Your silence only encouraged him to attack multiple others. How many times do we go through this same tone initiate by such types? You don't see me routinely posting personal attacks until another has been doing it for months. This is the Cellar that Themerc understands. You stop it by going after the source - TheMercenary.

tw 01-10-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 520978)
I am not calling his wife a whore or saying she likes to be raped. You condone that?

Your most evey post these past months have been equivalent. It has made thoughtful discussion in The Cellar difficult or nearly impossible. But then that says much about your education. Welcome to posts that only duplicate your attitude - but with more knowledge.

TheMercenary 01-10-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 520982)
You can put an end to this quickly by going after the person I am only plagiarizing - TheMercenary. I am only duplicating the tone of what he does routinely to harm. We went through this before because of his tone. And here we are again only because his wife got smart enough to withhold sex. This is the tone that TheMercenary has been posting for months. We all should do as he has been doing. Or dar512 should be addressing the only reason for the new Cellar tone. Your choice. I do not routinely attack others to hurt. He does what he understands - when you remained silent these many months.

Of course, when he screws women dripping gonorrhea, well, eventually that will silence him. Your silence only encouraged him to attack multiple others. How many times do we go through this same tone initiate by such types? You don't see me routinely posting personal attacks until another has been doing it for months. This is the Cellar that Themerc understands. You stop it by going after the source - TheMercenary.

FTR

TheMercenary 01-10-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 520983)
Your most evey post these past months have been equivalent. It has made thoughtful discussion in The Cellar difficult or nearly impossible. But then that says much about your education. Welcome to posts that only duplicate your attitude - but with more knowledge.

But you never mentioned George Jr, Bin Laden, WMD, Rush. Come on your slipping.

xoxoxoBruce 01-10-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 520935)
UT - the Cellar is again what the wackos want it to be. A place to called TheMercenary's wife what she really is - a whore. Do you like what TheMercenary does because he only understands profanity and attacking other posters? Sex addicts attack others when even the wife will not give it up. But then, can you blame her?

If you have something to add to the thread, you are free to do so, but this shit has got to stop right fucking now. Understand? You don't want to make me stop the car.:mad2:

zippyt 01-11-2009 01:20 AM

Get Him Bruce !!!

Trilby 01-11-2009 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 520947)
Consistant, not constant. I take offense at much of what you post as well, but I will not whine about it.

Oh, I "whine," do I?

And you're a sexist pig.

(and I meant CONSTANT, not consistent)

Idiot.

TheMercenary 01-11-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 521073)
Oh, I "whine," do I?

And you're a sexist pig.

(and I meant CONSTANT, not consistent)

Idiot.

Ok, I am a sexist pig, whatever.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-15-2009 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 520978)
I am not calling his wife a whore or saying she likes to be raped.

Don't think you could. Tw has no woman. AFAIK no prospects of one, either.

Cicero 01-16-2009 01:12 AM

It's ok, in tdubs world, his alter ego is a female woman of the night. It was a compliment.

"it puts the lotion in the baskeeet!!"

classicman 01-16-2009 07:34 AM

Sooooooooooooooooo. . . . . . .

How much is Joe getting paid for this gig? When is he going to leave? Where specifically is he going?

Trilby 01-16-2009 08:09 AM

I wanna know how many malapropisms and such he's gonna do. I am SOOOOO hoping he's gonna be the next Yogi Berra! YAY!

wolf 01-16-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 520935)
UT - the Cellar is again what the wackos want it to be.

tw, take a look in the mirror.

Then back off.

classicman 01-16-2009 08:57 AM

lol - I think his career in journalism will last as as long as Rush Limbaughs did in football.

TheMercenary 01-16-2009 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 522964)
lol - I think his career in journalism will last as as long as Rush Limbaughs did in football.

I hope the guy make a few 100k before it ends. He deserves that much.

Trilby 01-16-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 522970)
I hope the guy make a few 100k before it ends. He deserves that much.

for what? Being a completely uninformed asshole? Yeah, ok.

classicman 01-16-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 522970)
I hope the guy make a few 100k before it ends. He deserves that much.

Why? He's been tainted already. They looked into everything about him and his life - financial - all of it. The "plant by the R's" was floated and that leaves him scarred - no matter what.

I still don't get why he "deserves" anything. Does he deserve it more than me? glatt? LJ? Dana? Who then? Why? Seriously.

TheMercenary 01-16-2009 01:25 PM

Seriously? Because he was never a plant. He was a target of opportunity. He was attacked and vilified in the press and by the left because he had the balls to ask Obama an unpopular question live on the air. Because he was illegally investigated by people in positions of trust who had access to government trusted information and that information was subsequently passed on to the press. I am happy to see someone at least get something for his 15 min of fame even if it leads him back to being a plumber.

Trilby 01-16-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 523033)
...even if it leads him back to being a plumber.

Pssst. Dude. He's not even a plumber. And his question for Obama was uninformed. He thought that IF he bought a business worth 250,000 his taxes would be raised. No, no, no, mr. Fake-Plumber Man. He's an idiot. He makes idiots look bad. Figures you'd think he deserves a buck for being a moron. Him and Sarah Palin: Bucks for Dumb Jerks.

TheMercenary 01-16-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 523032)
I still don't get why he "deserves" anything. Does he deserve it more than me? glatt? LJ? Dana? Who then? Why? Seriously.

No one deserves more than you and those people. :hide:

:lol:

xoxoxoBruce 01-17-2009 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 523036)
Pssst. Dude. He's not even a plumber. And his question for Obama was uninformed. He thought that IF he bought a business worth 250,000 his taxes would be raised. No, no, no, mr. Fake-Plumber Man. He's an idiot. He makes idiots look bad. Figures you'd think he deserves a buck for being a moron. Him and Sarah Palin: Bucks for Dumb Jerks.

OK, he misunderstood what Obama was proposing, and took the opportunity to ask him about it in person when he had a chance. Nothing wrong with that.

Obama recognized Joe was mixed up and tried to explain to Joe that he mixed up and how the proposal would really affect all the Joes out there. Nothing wrong with that.

Now the way America unfortunately works, is anyone that comes out of nowhere into the publics view, surprise guests, so to speak, suddenly become persons of interest. The editors and desk chiefs, just know J.Q.Public is turning to the spouse saying. "who was that masked man?". Therefore every cub reporter just knows he'll get his break into the bigtime if he can only dig up some bit of info or a different angle on Joe... even better if it's dirt.

Now that Joe is a celebrity, The McCain handlers take him along to connect with all the "Joes" out there. Use him up and throw him back.

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I am happy to see someone at least get something for his 15 min of fame even if it leads him back to being a plumber.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Plumbing is a good job. It's a good paying trade, that's always in demand, and very lucrative for a guy that is willing to hustle. Plus plumbers usually don't have to put up with cub reporters.

TheMercenary 01-17-2009 05:42 AM

Sorry I can't see bris posts, but now that I do I can only say, pssst, anyone who works doing plumbing everyday can call himself a plumber. The rest of the her post is bs. His question to Obama set him back on his heels and caught hiim off guard because even Obama couldn't really answer the question well and he was embarrassed on national tv. It was a great scene to see a politician, any of them, get put on the spot and challenged on all of the BS and lies they tell people to get them elected. Pretty damm funny.

Bruce, I have no disdain for plumbers, good people. I have disdain for reporters and people who hold public office that abuse their ability to gather info on people and feed it to the press when they don't agree with their politics.

xoxoxoBruce 01-17-2009 06:01 AM

I think if you look at the video, even though Joe came out of left field, Obama handled himself well, and tried to answer Joe's question honestly.

Now, his entourage was probably pissed about their carefully orchestrated rally being blindsided by Joe, but I maintain the Man himself performed well.

TheMercenary 01-17-2009 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 523281)
I think if you look at the video, even though Joe came out of left field, Obama handled himself well, and tried to answer Joe's question honestly.

Now, his entourage was probably pissed about their carefully orchestrated rally being blindsided by Joe, but I maintain the Man himself performed well.

Eh, you are probably right about the handlers, but I still say he was completely caught off guard. And I like that. Puts the realism back into their lies.

xoxoxoBruce 01-17-2009 06:12 AM

Sure he was, I strongly doubt he expected it, after attending 18 months of love fests, the latter of which were "professionally" organized. But again, the mark of a good leader is how he handles surprises, not the expected.

Undertoad 01-17-2009 08:24 AM

The Joe response was a gaffe by Obama, because he answered it with a tilt towards income redistribution for fairness' sake. This was never the wording he used when talking about his tax plan. He used the language of old-school Socialism, which is not appealing to 80% of Americans and which they had been very careful to avoid. This allowed the opposition to say the Obama plan was Socialism.

Happy Monkey 01-17-2009 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 523274)
Sorry I can't see bris posts, but now that I do I can only say, pssst, anyone who works doing plumbing everyday can call himself a plumber. The rest of the her post is bs. His question to Obama set him back on his heels and caught hiim off guard because even Obama couldn't really answer the question well and he was embarrassed on national tv. It was a great scene to see a politician, any of them, get put on the spot and challenged on all of the BS and lies they tell people to get them elected.

What lie? What embarrassment?

Obama answered the question well and completely.

richlevy 01-17-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 523281)
I think if you look at the video, even though Joe came out of left field, Obama handled himself well, and tried to answer Joe's question honestly.

Now, his entourage was probably pissed about their carefully orchestrated rally being blindsided by Joe, but I maintain the Man himself performed well.

I agree. I shudder to think how GWB would have handled it. Of course, in his mind he's always right.

xoxoxoBruce 01-17-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 523309)
The Joe response was a gaffe by Obama, because he answered it with a tilt towards income redistribution for fairness' sake. This was never the wording he used when talking about his tax plan. He used the language of old-school Socialism, which is not appealing to 80% of Americans and which they had been very careful to avoid. This allowed the opposition to say the Obama plan was Socialism.

That's a matter of perception, he didn't actually say that. Hell, isn't the graduated tax system supposed to be about fairness?

Pundits trying to interpret what he meant by the change in the type/tone of language he used in a one on one with a voter, compared to the language he'd used in official campaign publications/statements, is bullshit. Anyone can get any interpretation they want with those parameters.

If he talked to Joe the way the official campaign publications are written, instead of talking to him man to man, trying to explain in a way he thought Joe would see why he was taking that position, I'd have tagged him as a phony.
It looked to me like Joe understood and respected the candor, but that's just my perception.

TheMercenary 01-17-2009 06:08 PM

Of course it is a matter of perception. Isn't all politics? The liberal left-wing saw a confident on the spot response to an unscripted question, the rest of the country saw a dude tripping over his previous statements to cover his ass. "No, it's not about income redistribution."

Undertoad 01-17-2009 08:54 PM

Okay, yeah, the main socialismo phrase he used was "spread the wealth", although that certainly wasn't the bulk of the discussion.

xoxoxoBruce 01-18-2009 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 523420)
Of course it is a matter of perception. Isn't all politics? The liberal left-wing saw a confident on the spot response to an unscripted question, the rest of the country saw a dude tripping over his previous statements to cover his ass. "No, it's not about income redistribution."

Well, I don't think you can divide the nation into "the liberal left wing" and the "rest of the country". You've bunched the conservative right wing, the moderate left & right, the centrists, and the clueless together, in a united position. You know that ain't true on anything.

Cover his ass? Nah, presented with a voter that is hostile because he pictures himself in the 5% of the big money earners someday, what's he going to do? Say, nannie nannie boo boo, suck it up? No, he is going to explain exactly how it will affect Joe and present the facts that it's not as bad as Joe thinks it will be and a scenario where it might even be good for Joe. I wouldn't call that tripping all over previous statements.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 523443)
Okay, yeah, the main socialismo phrase he used was "spread the wealth", although that certainly wasn't the bulk of the discussion.

I must have missed that. But those three words, in one speech, during a two year campaign, builds a pretty weak case. For the voters that feel that way, that wasn't much of a vindication.

As for Joe, if he hadn't been poked with a pointy stick by the McCain camp, I think he'd have been satisfied with Obama's answer. I don't claim he'd have been happy with the plan or voted for him, just satisfied with Obama's treating him with respect.

UT, I know you follow the political scene pretty closely and know who's in what camp, who's saying what, and the overall subtle shifts of positions in the ebb an flow.
I don't. I couldn't tell you who's who of the advisors or pundits, no less the positions or strengths. But I do have considerable contact with a lot of people that don't follow it closely. Sometimes they exasperate me with their level of disinterest, but I do hear what they think and most, of both parties thought Joe was a non-starter.
Probably because non of them make $250k :)

TheMercenary 01-18-2009 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 523464)
Well, I don't think you can divide the nation into "the liberal left wing" and the "rest of the country". You've bunched the conservative right wing, the moderate left & right, the centrists, and the clueless together, in a united position. You know that ain't true on anything.

True, I would have to redact that statement and point out that those groups exist separate from each other as small enclaves, none of whom agree completely.

Trilby 01-18-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 523274)
Sorry I can't see bris posts, but now that I do I can only say, pssst, anyone who works doing plumbing everyday can call himself a plumber.

Aw, baby boy? Little ole me bothers you SO MUCH that you put me on ignore? I'm honored!

So, by your logic, anyone who works as a medic can call him/herself a doctor, anyone who helps a fellow human being out is a social worker and any drug dealer is an entreprenuer! (which, actually, happened. I recall seeing an obit in the Cellar of a young man who was posthumously described as such--a "young entreprenuer"---of, uh, crack. Hey, a business is a business)

Anyway, I am TOTALLY psyched about pissing you off so much. Means I'm getting my spirit back. EXHCELLENT!


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