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Nah, I think it got the message just right.

Yeah, the media is really the problem here (sarcasm).:right: If these guys parody themselves any more, then SNL, The Daily Show, and the Colbert Report are going to go out of business.

Does anyone remember SNL skewering Jessie Jackson with "Don't Let Me Down, Hymietown" when he got caught using the phrase? With these RNC nutjobs, they don't even have to make up the song.

It is astonishing that a mere 4 years ago, Democrats were considered the disorganized rabble and the RNC was the paragon of 'party discipline'.

I wonder if the 'B' side had "Kennedy the Irish Drunk" or "Pelosi is the P in PMS"?

This kind of childish humor is fine for the wing nuts, but one would expect the party leadership to be smart enough to avoid it. The DNC isn't going to mail this poster to anyone, much as they would like to.

Barack the Magic Negro is a Paul Shanklin parody song that's been played on Rush Limbaugh for the last two years. It's hilarious, and it's obvious satire. Stupid to distribute it on a CD.

Everybody knows it's all about .mp3s these days.

I think it is funny as hell. After 8 years of all kinds of the lowest form of bashing one side the other gets a tiny taste and the next thing you know the whole party is accused of a cross burning. What a load of crap.

If the shoe fits. . .

All these idiots both D's and R's should be called out.

Bush, the Magic Whitey
Lived in DC
And frolicked on Pennsylvania Ave
Lying through his teeth

Etc.

I'm sure no one in the RNC would have been offended if Rush had played this for a couple of years, right?

Rush could have done anything he wanted. But the DNC would never have distributed it.

I saw a bumper sticker on a pick 'em up truck the other day. It read "I'll keep my guns, rights and money, you keep the "change."

I had to laugh. Bubba probably spit a hocker out his window right before headin' into the Wal-mart.

Then I thought about it. I don't remember anti-Bush bumper stickers before the fucker even got into office. In fact, even after he was re-elected I don't recall many, except a few "don't blame me, I didn't vote for him the second time" type.

There are patriotic folks, yes I said PATRIOTIC, who really want this country to get well, not flounder farther so they can say "I told you so."

Merc, and your ilk, I'm glad to see your anti-americanism attitude hasn't dissipated in the least. As I said before, but never heard boo about, I didn't start bitching about the last president until he had a chance to start screwing up the country. You could try to do the same, if you love this country so much (you know the one you claimed to fight for, that freedom you admire so well?)

Maybe "stolen election" and/or "not elected, appointed", and/or "not my president" will refresh your memory?

Yeah, but that really happened. Duh.

Seriously, I don't remember bumper stickers...that doesn't mean they didn't exist.

Eh, my point remains. People want to be "right" so badly they'd rather see us all living in the sewers to escape those who would take us over once our country completely tanks than hope for any kind of betterment. Kind of pukey, if'n you ask me.

I don't need to speak for the past 8 years on the back of my car (cue Peter Griffin talking about rednecks needing to express their opinions on the back of their truck); those years have spoken, loudly, for themselves.

If you learned you were wrong about that, would it change your point of view on what you've said in this thread?

No, because my point has nothing to do with whether or not the election was stolen, or what I think of that issue.

There was a perception that the election was stolen which prompted bumper stickers bitching about the election being stolen.

The anti-Obama bumper sticker to which I referred had nothing to do with any actual event, real or imagined. It was, in effect, pre-bitching about the possibility that the change promised in the election would affect that person's lifestyle in a way that person deems unacceptable.

That possible infringement has not even happened, yet. It may, or may not. Future vs. past.

Big difference.

No way. What's stupider: bitching about an improbable future, or bitching about a bogus history? I say the history, but any advocate for truth finds both appalling.

It does highlight Penn Jillette's pithy analysis: The Republican party is the party of fear; the Democratic party is the party of hate.

Pick your side; immerse yourself in the facts that support it; ignore or blatantly change the facts that deny it.

Still off from my point.

The PERCEPTION, whether it was true or not, was that it was true.

Improbable future bitching, when our country's morale must be at an all time low, serves nothing.

Bitching about recent history, what you PERCEIVED happened, is a different matter.

Ah well...perhaps you all will get your wish, and we will all lose our jobs, our homes, and will stand in bread lines all day. We can always HOPE to be right.:headshake

All the hate I see, deep-seated, destructive, ugly hate, doesn't come mostly from the party I support.

In retrospect, since we're doing that instead, hating Bush was the right thing to do. :rolleyes:

For one more time, all ye word twisters, I didn't "hate" him until I had good reason to. Prolly around the time my ass started hurting.

Improbable future bitching?

Anonymous Rightie: "I'll keep my guns, rights and money, you keep the "change."

Shawnee: "We will all lose our jobs, our homes, and will stand in bread lines all day."

Can't see it? You're soaking in it.

Hmm, that sounds like FEAR mongering to me. Which party is supposed to hate and which party is supposed to impose fear? Confused? Yeah, me too. You're not keeping your poking straight.


Re: improbable future bitching, this was YOUR quote:

Whuddever, you're just trying to piss me off a la radar, ug, merc, or any one of you folks who just like to twist people around if that person finally has a reasonable point.

Sickening.

Thanks...buh-bye for now.

Is that according to your PERCEPTION (i.e., your directly witnessed evidence) or the general PERCEPTION (i.e., a popular understanding of the truth)?

The general PERCEPTION is that Brittany Spears is the most fascinating human being on the planet.

/sar/ You mean she isn't? /casm/

The perception of the PRESENT state of the economy, or the PAST cheating of the system, are infinitely more verifiable than what will happen in the FUTURE.

But again, you are pushing my buttons, I am letting you, so who's the bonehead here? I don't know you well, but I think I know you well enough to think that you are not one to typically like twisting words for reactions. Hey, I've been wrong before.

The general perception that our country is in the shitter is based on the facts that our economy is "cratering" unemployment is through the roof, and houses are being lost left and right. The perception that we are in the shitter is based on the fact that we smell that shit everywhere. I'm not making the state of the union up to make a point, or even to spread the naysay you are accusing me of (and ironically in the process doing so yourself.)Get real for a second, I beg of you.

Why, what's your perception, Mr T? Are you, you personally, better off than you were 8 years ago?:eyebrow:

So typical to relate it all somehow to Britney Spears, though. I can't tell if the intention was to recall those lovely campaign ads or not, but it's truly hilarious either way. :p

btw, where's that thread where you asked folks to see what happens with the new president before we spew negativity like last night's tequila and beer? I'm sure I joked, but I know I've said somewhere that I hoped that anyone who got elected would do what's best for WE THE PEOPLE. Or, Ouija People, one of those.

I'm not a button-pusher. I'm just vulcan like tw when pursuing truth. I care about your feelings at other times, in other discussions, but here we're in Politics and I'm just workin' the speed bag for my position.

Those are your words. I could care less if you think I have an "anti-americanism attitude". I know you are wrong. I just think turn about is fair play, regardless of when it takes place. I am pretty sure Obama can take the heat and I am sure this is not the last time he is going to see the sting of people who disagree with him and what he stands for. That is how our government works. Otherwise you "and your ilk" would have been rounded up and dumped in some place like Gitmo or the Olympic Training Center in Iraq before Sadaam left. Things don't work like that here and I am glad to have been part of the reason it is not.

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You sound like House. Would sound if he bothered to provide that level of explanation.

UT and I can agree to disagree, although Im not sure where that came from in my post postulating bumper posts.

All that stuff about merc? He's been bitching about Obama since the beginning, and I really do believe that he would rather Obama and his administration fail miserably so he can be "right." I'm not the first to pose this suggestion. All this namby pamby "can't take it can you" crap is so far gone: we have taken just as much shit as you, and maybe some of we are hoping we and you can become US...just once, just on the slight chance that it'll get US somewhere.

But you don't want to hear any of that.

I feel sad for you, and I feel sad for US.

And you'd be wrong. As usual.

:lol:

If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...

Gag-worthy: Bipartisan indignance over “Barack the Magic Negro” parody
By Michelle Malkin • December 29, 2008 01:16 PM Oh, give me a super-sized break.

Leftie ’60s leftover/songwriter Peter Yarrow at the Huffington Post fumes over the “Barack the Magic Negro” parody that has RNC candidate Chip Saltsman in hot water.

All of sudden — after eight years of “F**k Bush” bumper stickers and “Kill Bush” assassination chic and Bush-or-Chimp parodies — the left is concerned about insulting the office of the Presidency?

Now, they are concerned with protecting the dignity of the office and with forging “commong ground and mutual respect?”:

http://michellemalkin.com/

Barack the Magic Negro is considered racist. Much different than "Fuck Bush".

I never agreed with "Eff Bush" stickers or assassination jokes. That just isn't funny; he was/is still our president. IN fact, I find that kind of behavior downright sick.

But you can't seriously tell me that there isn't a difference between "the magic negro" and hating the president because he sucked?

:headshake:

Come ON folks, it can't be just me reading Frick and Frack's toxic anti-hope for any kind of success because of personal bias comments and thinking WTF is wrong with you guys, can it?

Sure, ignore, I know. But at some point you have to speak up and chastise the completely racist and defeatist attitude that will do our country NO GOOD AT ALL. :mad:

One is hate and the other is not? Yea, most of us call that a double standard.

First of all, do you remember the Palin rallies TheMercenary? There were assissination calls, there was "fuck Obama" statements, there were also completely racist actions as well. It did not start up a controversy nearly as much as this.


There are two reasons why this is a much bigger fuss than "fuck Bush". First, "fuck Bush" is an attack on an individual who, depending on the perspective, screwed over a very large number of people while "Barack the Magic Negro" is considered an attack on an entire race of people who really didn't do anything. Second, the fact that a politician said it is what started this entire controversy. Rush Limboaugh has been playing for a while and I didn't hear anything close to this.

If Hilary Clinton was publicity caught saying "fuck Bush", then maybe you can compare the two and we would only have to debate the racist content. But no democratic politician ever said "fuck Bush" so have no argument.


Remember, this mostly started with an idiotic statement by a politician, that was the main breaking point. The racist part just made it that much worse.

Try to redefine in anyway that suits you it is no less hate. Both cases qualify. But yet people are getting their panties in a wad over it. I call it a double standard.

He looks and sounds pretty happy to me:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...-obama-go.html

You did not address the point that when Rush Limbaugh played it, the attention level was not as great.

You say it is a double standard and reject the racist part, so I give you a very logical alternative and you ignore it. Why is that?

I absolutely disagree with most of anything that comes out of Rush's mouth. They are all wrong to do it. But you can't say that it is not all a form of hate speech.

I think we are addressing two separate points. I am sticking to your double standard comment.
You are calling it a double standard because you believe hate speech is hate speech whether it is "fuck Bush" or "Barack the Magic Negro". I disagree with that but it isn't worth arguing over because I assume neither of us is going to budge on that issue.

So, I brought up the second aspect of why people are getting their panties in a bunch, the fact that it was said by a politician who wants to lead the Republican party. That counters your double standard argument because no anti-Bush statement was said by anyone of that stature in the Democratic party.

I will back up that claim by saying that the same reaction was not produced when Palin rally supporters shouted "kill Obama" or when Rush Limbaugh played the "Barack the Magic Negro" song. I was not accusing you of agreeing with Rush Limbaugh unlike tw.

So even though a racist comment, whether intention or not, will get more of reaction than "fuck Bush", the large reaction was produced by who actually said it, not the actual statement.

the same reaction was not produced when Palin rally supporters shouted "kill Obama"

Any reaction in the first place was reporters building their narrative. In a crowd of tens of thousands, isolated voices are not worthy of news or our attention.

If you disagree, I'll start pointing to comments sections of blogs of both the left and the right.

I saw Steely Dan and this drunk lady was yelling "WE LOVE YOU, MR. FAGEN!" and I didn't feel that way.

Yes, that is why I am arguing that this "Barack the Magic Negro" thing is so big because a politician that wants to lead the Republican party said it, not because of the actual material.

I am responding to TheMercenary's argument that we have a double standard which was started with this article.

The reasons "assassinate Obama" and "assassinate Bush" did not make headline news is for the reasons we agree on. If a politician, especially a respectable one, said either of those, it would be a different story.

I see. true

And now that I've read the context of the song, it's not actually racist! And this is a bunch of turd-throwing, as per usual.

Correct. It was sophmoric at best.

You keep harping that I somehow supported the negative comments made when Obama was running. I never supported any such comments. If anything I pointed out that turnbout was fair play and that people never got indignant about any such comments when made toward Bush.

Oh this is great. To funny for words. The party is eating it's tail.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...m-of-bailouts/

What negative comment? I said you supported the article trying to make a point about a double standard which was debunked. I did not accuse you of anything outside that. Reread my post.

I suppose you're going deny sending me a PM saying Merc's Mother wears combat boots. :angel:

What planet were you on? There was a HUGE outcry and controversy, bigger than this.

Clearly when something like that is said/used by a frontline politician it's a little different to when its a rank and file party member, or constituent.

But...the outcry over the Palin rallies was huge. It filled UK news programmes, it was talked about on American chat shows and interview programmes, it sent ripples through the world. This hasn't. Not really.

At the time, Merc was again arguing the double standard because of a Palin dummy that someone hung on halloween night. He is consistent. I disagree with his perspective on this, but his point is consistent and drawn from evidence here and in the world.

These boards are full of anti-Bush and anti-Republican rhetoric. I happen to agree with it, and personally believe it is a better founded 'anti-' than the anti-Democratic, anti-Liberal rhetoric that also abounds here. We see the patterns that we discern from the mass, and that discernment is founded upon our own interests and proclivities. Consequently, we intermittently have dwellars convinced the Cellar is anti-atheist, anti-religion, anti-American, anti-European, anti-Bush, anti-Obama, anti- X, Y and Z.

It is all of those things and none of them.

If I DID have a New Years resolution, it would be to try to be more like Dana.

Great post.

As usual. You, general not specific, may choose to agree or disagree with him, but he has been very consistent.

Of course you'd agree with it ya damn commie! :p
Anti atheist? Anti Obama? Holy crap! Are you serious? I totally disagree with those two. But thats just me. Throw out tw & UG as they are just two sides of the same coin.

I guess that makes the rest of us edge-y. :haha:

Must of happened on my trip to Saturn, my bad.

How was the first quote accusing you of supporting anything that Rush said? My wording may have been bad but the "the attention level was not as great" part would have made no sense as an accusation.

PH...it's the old bait and switch...consistently alluding to an idea over and over and over and over...then when you say something it's "Who...ME? I never actually said THAT. IN fact, I never used the word THAT, you insipid brain dead moron."

They learned it in debate class at Frick and Frack College of Illusion. When that doesn't work it means you're stupid. When that doesn't work they tear apart your use of the word "the" for example. "You mean THE the, or the the that you used in the last the sentence or the the that the masses employ when the regular the doesn't work, which means you;re a commie the-master and therefore I don't really read a fucking word you say."

Yeah, that the. The the the is really all the the they got.

Ok, my bad than, it must have happened on my trip to Mars. :D

What the frak are you two smoking....and where's my share?

'ere

that was freaking funny! :p

TheMercenary and I were pre-celebrating for the New Year in California. You can join if you want, its cheap over here.