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xoxoxoBruce 11-16-2008 10:40 PM

Fat chicks get laid more
 
From Psychology Today.

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Their statistical analysis shows that there is no significant difference between normal-weight women, on the one hand, and overweight and obese women, on the other, on their sexual orientation, age at first intercourse, frequency of heterosexual intercourse, and the number of lifetime or current male sexual partners. It means that, contrary to what one might expect, overweight and obese women are not having sex later, less frequently or with fewer partners than normal-weight women. There is a significant difference, however, on whether they have ever had sexual intercourse with men. Overweight (92.5%) and obese (91.5%) women are significantly more likely ever to have had sexual intercourse with men than normal-weight women (87.4%)
Now the reason is...

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When a man propositions a woman, she can respond in one of two ways; she can say “yes” or she can say “no.” When a woman propositions a man, he can also respond in one of two ways; he can say “yes” or he can say “yes, please.” He has no realistic choice to say no. Men may not be saying “yes, please” to overweight and obese women, but Kaneshiro et al.’s study clearly suggests that they are definitely saying “yes.”
I'm unable to find a flaw in the study, or in this man's logic. :headshake

Aliantha 11-16-2008 10:47 PM

I don't know why they needed to do a study for this.

I could have told them all that and saved them a lot of money.

eta: I think it's a lot harder for fat blokes to get laid though...but maybe that's just me.

Clodfobble 11-16-2008 11:34 PM

I think it's not that "fat chicks get laid more" but rather "frigid chicks are skinny little harpies."

xoxoxoBruce 11-16-2008 11:43 PM

:eek: :rotflol:

SquidGirl 11-17-2008 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 505048)
eta: I think it's a lot harder for fat blokes to get laid though...but maybe that's just me.

It's a lot more comfortable being on top with a larger guy though...nice and rounded, easier on the hips :p

ZenGum 11-17-2008 02:01 AM

I haven't read the article, but that's never stopped me before. :D

It seems to have the evidence, that larger women are more likely to have ever had sex, and infer the conclusion, that they are asking for sex and getting it, because no man ever says no. Hey, some of us have standards. Not that I object to larger sizes per se, but the idea that anyone/thing would do is wrong and offensive.

However, I think they have found a correlation that can be explained a different way.
As people get older they often put on weight.
Hence if you line people up according to weight, the low weight end of the line would be a little younger than the higher-weight end of the line.
Likewise, "have ever had sex with a man" is also correlated with age. You've got longer to get lucky.
Hence weight and age are causally connected, and sexual history and age are causally connected, but weight and sexual history are not causally connected, but merely correlated.

And there is a second alternative explanation of the correlation. Women generally gain weight during pregnancy and often stay largeish thereafter. Of course, maternal weight gain selects at nearly 100% for women who have had sex with a man. So there is a second explanation between the correlation between weight and likelihood of having had sex.

Maybe in the study the show that they have allowed for these factors.

But I think Clod may have it right. Skinny women are more likely to have said "no". As a TV show recently pointed out ... "Men are attracted to larger women, because they have larger personalities, and lower standards."

Aliantha 11-17-2008 02:30 AM

I think larger women have more sex because they're not worried about messing up their hair...so not only do they have more, it's better. ;)

Juniper 11-17-2008 04:00 AM

Thin women have higher standards, therefore say "no" more often. Generally speaking, they are the Spartans.

Fat women aren't so shallow. They enjoy life and all it has to offer -- food, beverages, and men of all shapes and sizes. They are the hedonists.

Of course, one might argue that it's a matter of quantity vs. quality. Would you rather have sex with one super-hot, handsome, high-performance fella or ten flabby, mediocre, vaguely awkward guys?

Aliantha 11-17-2008 04:34 AM

What about a bit of each? :)

Sundae 11-17-2008 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Juniper (Post 505080)
Of course, one might argue that it's a matter of quantity vs. quality. Would you rather have sex with one super-hot, handsome, high-performance fella or ten flabby, mediocre, vaguely awkward guys?

I'll take the ten! Men don't tend to get flabby, they get rounded. It's nice. And a larger man is certainly not "mediocre". In fact he's probably more likely to feel he has something to make up for, and be a bit of a star between the sheets. And anyway, what's more awkward in the morning? The chap who jumps out of bed at 06.00 to go jogging and then spends an hour grooming himself while you're still trying to catch up on beauty sleep, or the chubster who laughs at your bed hair and offers you a full English? (that's a cooked breakfast, but I suppose it could be a euphemism)

binky 11-17-2008 09:28 AM

I'll take the ten as well.

Trilby 11-17-2008 11:07 AM

put me down for ten. I cannot stand the primping man. Or, one better looking than me.

jinx 11-17-2008 11:21 AM

Can I just pick out the 3 or 4 best ones? 10 is a little much for me...

Juniper 11-17-2008 01:45 PM

Ditto, I'll compromise and take 3-4 of the ones somewhere in between. Not all at once. ;)

jinx 11-17-2008 01:47 PM

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Not all at once.
Oh. Nevermind then.

lumberjim 11-17-2008 01:48 PM

good thing you're not a fat chick....I'd be too worried to leave you home alone.

Aliantha 11-17-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 505161)
good thing you're not a fat chick....I'd be too worried to leave you home alone.

I can understand that being a concern Jimbo. Dazza makes sure my belt's done up nice and tight every day before he leaves. :D

Cicero 11-17-2008 06:49 PM

I don't believe any of this crap. All it says is fat women are less likely to be virgins. I think it's horse-puckey myself. They are saying that most virgins weigh a normal weight. I don't believe this stuff, so it don' matter.


;) Fat chicks are like, slutty. lol!


Aaah- I don't trust their stats. Really. Maybe skinny women lie more. ;)

ZenGum 11-17-2008 08:31 PM

Maybe they lied about being skinny too!

monster 11-17-2008 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 505228)
Maybe skinny women lie more. ;)


well they certainly lie alone more :lol:

SquidGirl 11-18-2008 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Juniper (Post 505080)
Of course, one might argue that it's a matter of quantity vs. quality. Would you rather have sex with one super-hot, handsome, high-performance fella or ten flabby, mediocre, vaguely awkward guys?

You know, in my opinion, once the super-hot, handsome fella opens his mouth it ruins everything. I'll have to say that the beautiful personalities don't always stud-bodies. My BF is pretty hot....in a exotic metro-sexual way. I'm surprised I'm with him sometimes, I'm petite, not bad looking, but anyway....but in the beginning I did have issues with his ego. There wasn't room for all of us. It almost broke us up. So, moral of the story...personality can make the person the most attractive possible. Perhaps the larger women have better personalities which make them more attractive than the twigglets out there. After all, they have to face stereotypes, adversity, poor treatment, etc. I've known women who are quite large and they are the sweetest gals I have ever known. It's all because all the crap they went through...it left them being really pure of heart. Hell, I fully expect them to get the guy before me. Good for them, too.

Juniper 11-18-2008 08:45 AM

Ugly fat guys can have ego issues, too. Many of them seem to be delusional. :)

I ended up with the in-between, and so did my hubster. :D

Shawnee123 11-18-2008 10:17 AM

I thought there'd be an application, or a sign-in sheet, or something...

skysidhe 11-18-2008 04:20 PM

When I was young all the sluts were the skinny ones.

In my youth I had no moral high ground although not a slut. I was a very sensory/physical person if attracted but I have more morals now that I am chubby and old.

Aliantha 11-18-2008 04:31 PM

I don't think that just because you happen to get laid more often makes you a slut.

I'm always amazed at people's colloquial attitudes to sex even in these days of enlightenment.

Once again, girls who have too many partners are sluts. Blokes who have a lot of partners are studs.

Shawnee123 11-18-2008 05:03 PM

Great point, Ali.

I wonder if it will ever change. I mean, will we ever get to think of men as back alley sluts? ;)

Still, I'm waiting for the sign-in sheet.

Aliantha 11-18-2008 05:05 PM

Well I've known a couple of men who I've described as man whore. Interestingly enough, they laughed when I said it...which was good because that was the intention.

I think that's the point though. You can all sit around and have a joke about a mans latest conquest, but with women, you keep it to the girls and don't tell the blokes.

Didn't Sex and the City do anything for us???

Shawnee123 11-18-2008 05:08 PM

Exactly: men are proud to be man-sluts!

Sundae 11-18-2008 06:39 PM

I made it through Sex and the City about four times. But I only reached that milestone by watching a couple of episode and then stitching together clips. No, it taught me nothing except that young, rich, attractive, well-dressed women in New York have sex. At a time that younger, poor, less attractive, far less well-dressed women in London only occasionally got it. For us it was the eternal tightrope of one night stand/ clinging man. Will he phone/ won't he. Do I want him to/ don't I? Should I/ shouldn't I? Men do/ can I?

None of us were size zero, able to afford to live on our own, able to afford the clothes we wanted (if we wanted - I would have preferred a car) or to go out more than twice a month - except to the pub. We didn't lunch, meet "eligible" males or complain about lack of commitment.

I hate Sex and the City. All it did was put the female ideal further out of a normal woman's reach. Any woman can keep her legs shut ('50s ideal), any woman can laugh and spread then ('60s ideal) and any woman can pogo '70s). Everything since then I'm baffled by.

Cloud 11-18-2008 08:06 PM

hmmpf. they obviously didn't ask me.

Aliantha 11-19-2008 02:34 AM

I have a cousin who seems to have modeled her life on S&tC. She even had a wedding that one of my other cousins said was like it just came straight out of the movie. She's got some funny idea about a trip she's planned to Europe. She thinks a French boutique is going to hire an Australian...and pay her enough to live on. I think she's got rocks in her head.

I have to admit I'm a fan of the show. I think I'm a realist about it though. I know it's not real and things just aren't like that in real life, but it's good escapism, and there are some good story lines in my opinion. I don't think the relationships are realistic though. Particularly those between the girls and their men.

Treasenuak 11-20-2008 09:17 AM

NOT all at once? But... but... ORGY!!! (can I throw a couple girls in there too? Pwease?) ;)

monster 11-23-2008 02:43 PM

I think it's the bouncy castle phenomenon.

xoxoxoBruce 11-23-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 505596)
I hate Sex and the City. All it did was put the female ideal further out of a normal woman's reach. Any woman can keep her legs shut ('50s ideal), any woman can laugh and spread then ('60s ideal) and any woman can pogo '70s). Everything since then I'm baffled by.

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regular.joe 11-23-2008 04:18 PM

Bone is for the dogs, meat is for the MAN! I prefer women who have a little on the hips.

Aliantha 11-23-2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 507172)

Well since the show is based on 4 women who have highly paid powerful jobs, I'm not sure if that's an accurate description of the show.

Besides, they spend all their time obsessing about men...not their hair. ;)

xoxoxoBruce 11-23-2008 05:01 PM

They obsessed about everything, even some important things, on rare occasions.

Aliantha 11-23-2008 05:03 PM

I think it was interesting in that most of the shows were based on issues that most women do think about from time to time. Perhaps not to the same extent - they do want people to be entertained after all - but definitely topical issues for single women looking for love.


eta: so how many episodes did you watch Bruce?

xoxoxoBruce 11-23-2008 05:06 PM

Many, unless there were tits on another channel.

Aliantha 11-23-2008 05:08 PM

So if you're representative of the males, do you think a lot of other blokes watched the show in the hopes of seeing boobs?

Also, as a man, did you find the things the women worried about surprising at all? Did you think they were things they didn't need to worry about?

classicman 11-23-2008 05:15 PM

I didn't/don't find any of them attractive. That being said I've watched the show maybe a dozen times and uggghh the movie too.

Aliantha 11-23-2008 05:17 PM

Daryl calls SJP 'horsehead'. I'm sure he's not the only one.

Sounds like you don't like the show classic. Why do you think that is?

classicman 11-23-2008 05:26 PM

Perhaps cuz it sucks.

classicman 11-23-2008 05:30 PM

Oh and I totally agree with Daryl!

Aliantha 11-23-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 507215)
Perhaps cuz it sucks.

Not to patronize you at all, but I tell my kids that that sort of phrase is not an adequate explanation. lol

classicman 11-23-2008 05:45 PM

I was kidding Ali. Just not to my taste, no deeper meaning than that. I don't particularly like any of the characters, nor do I relate to the story lines that I've seen. I don't find them interesting or attractive - there just isn't anything there for me to watch.
Lemme ask you this - Is that show respective of the way women think, act, what they believe, or anything?

I don't watch a lot of tv so I don't really have that much of a perspective either.

Aliantha 11-23-2008 05:50 PM

As I mentioned before, I do think it covers issues women think about, and also which are part of most social discourse with regard to women in western society.

The women on the show are deliberate sterotypes which gives an interesting perspective on most of the discussions between the characters. You get the reaction from several different perspectives which I believe is meant to make you consider your own perspective on these issues, or perhaps be more understanding of other points of view. Of course the show is meant to be entertaining as well, but I think it's the fact that many/most women can relate to the issues covered in the show which made it so popular, and still is.

classicman 11-23-2008 06:08 PM

okie dokie. I'm a) not a woman, b) don't find it interesting and c) don't watch that much tv. So its pretty low on my radar. When I do watch, I prefer the history channel, discovery, sports or HGTV. More reality type stuff. If I can't find anything there, I may watch a movie, but thats about as far as I go.

xoxoxoBruce 11-23-2008 07:37 PM

Of course, tits only.
They made everything in their shallow vapid lives a drama. Going to the corner for a paper became a major production, because the whole world revolved around them. They'd have been furious that the twin towers collapsing got dust on their shoes, making them late for lunch. :rolleyes:

classicman 11-23-2008 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 507267)
shallow vapid lives :rolleyes:

That pretty much sums up my impression.

SquidGirl 11-24-2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 507210)
Daryl calls SJP 'horsehead'. I'm sure he's not the only one.

I know a couple guys who call her that, or 'horseface' along with Julia Roberts....I do give SJP credit as I recently heard she started up a clothing line where she said she doesn't believe a sweater should cost more than groceries. Pretty cool, I thought....especially since some sweaters her character wears costs more than my paycheck.

Perry Winkle 11-27-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 505523)
Didn't Sex and the City do anything for us???

It taught us that stories about rich, shallow, materialistic women aren't interesting?

I speak from only ever having seen the movie. I hear the TV series was less disgusting.

Aliantha 11-27-2008 11:09 PM

If you hadn't watched the series, I don't think the movie would have really meat that much.

The series was much better imo.

Elspode 11-28-2008 02:29 PM

I enjoyed the earlier episodes of the series. In particular, I liked the arc where Mr Big and Carrie first got together. It wore pretty damn thin once you got used to the novelty of it all, though.

All the women are hot as fuck, though, IMHO.


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