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TheMercenary 11-05-2008 05:29 AM

President Barack Obama
 
Congrats to him. I wish him and his family the best of luck. We'll be watching.

bluecuracao 11-05-2008 05:34 AM

Watching for what, exactly?

TheMercenary 11-05-2008 06:04 AM

Watching how he conducts the business of the country.

TheMercenary 11-05-2008 06:08 AM

The next big milestone will be who he surrounds himself with for a staff of advisors and consultants. This will be the most important step of the process. A president is only as good as who he confides in and takes advice from.

bluecuracao 11-05-2008 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary
Watching how he conducts the business of the country.

Oh. He probably expects that.

TheMercenary 11-05-2008 07:28 AM

I would imagine that his chief of staff will be the first big one and the rest of the choices should move rather quickly after that.

sweetwater 11-05-2008 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 501317)
The next big milestone will be who he surrounds himself with for a staff of advisors and consultants. This will be the most important step of the process. A president is only as good as who he confides in and takes advice from.

Exactly. I wish that nominees for at least a few of those positions were revealed prior to the election, but having said that, I tend toward trusting Obama to fill those spots wisely. It was an important factor in my decision.

Clodfobble 11-05-2008 08:29 AM

I think there's a decent chance he'll appoint Colin Powell to his cabinet. That would be interesting.

TheMercenary 11-05-2008 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 501359)
I think there's a decent chance he'll appoint Colin Powell to his cabinet. That would be interesting.

I bet he would gladly have him. I seriously doubt he would accept.

DanaC 11-05-2008 11:40 AM

I heard commentators predicting he'll bring in some key republicans. I do hope so. Like I said in another post, what's needed is a raprochement of some kind between the two sides of the body politic.

xoxoxoBruce 11-05-2008 12:00 PM

The transition team is already in Washington, hard at work. They've got a lot of work to do.

Rexmons 11-05-2008 12:07 PM

he should throw Ron Paul into the mix just to spice things up a bit.

monster 11-05-2008 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexmons (Post 501510)
he should throw Ron Paul into the cement mixer just to spice things up a bit.

fixed that for you

DanaC 11-05-2008 12:27 PM

I'd just like to also throw out a congrats to Lewis Hamilton; the youngest ever Formula 1 champion, and the first black champion as well.

I can only imagine what the last few days must mean to young black lads growing up in my own country.

Griff 11-05-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 501490)
I heard commentators predicting he'll bring in some key republicans. I do hope so. Like I said in another post, what's needed is a raprochement of some kind between the two sides of the body politic.

Chris Shays is looking for work. Being in a state like PA that is pretty evenly divided conservative/liberal it seems really weird that New England has 0 Republican representatives.

TheMercenary 11-05-2008 08:37 PM

"Splitters......."

http://www.fortunecity.com/bennyhill...n/eighteen.JPG

richlevy 11-05-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetwater (Post 501340)
Exactly. I wish that nominees for at least a few of those positions were revealed prior to the election, but having said that, I tend toward trusting Obama to fill those spots wisely. It was an important factor in my decision.

People generally don't do that because it's embarrassing to be selected by someone who goes on to lose. This is especially true for nominees who could easily work for either candidate.

Sundae 11-06-2008 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 501520)
I'd just like to also throw out a congrats to Lewis Hamilton; the youngest ever Formula 1 champion, and the first black champion as well.

I can only imagine what the last few days must mean to young black lads growing up in my own country.

Do you really think it will make a difference?
I mean to me, I'm just delighted that an Englishman is Champion. I have no interest in Formula One, but I celebrate anyone from this country who wins.

Lewis Hamilton was exceptionally skilled but also he had a strong family unit. He went into the expensive sport of carting at an early age. His Dad paid £1000 for a cart and the fmaily spent a lot of time and money to ensure his potential was fulfilled.

Had he wanted to be a doctor from an early age - with the same aptitude for that as for racing - I am sure he would still be in education and his family would be equally proud.

I'm aware it is probably my naivite speaking. But I am excited Obama won because he's the most European style President you've had so far. He's a Democrat so that makes me happy too. Third on the list... very very distant third... is that he is mixed race. I mean, it's wonderful that as McCain said, it was once shocking to invite a black man for dinner in the White House and now there is a black president. But it would have been shocking for a woman to be a political leader then, and it's happened many times around the world.

I'm not trying to belittle his achievement. I just genuinely can't get the whole "Oh wow, he's black, it's amazing" vibe.

DanaC 11-06-2008 11:37 AM

Yes I do, sundae. There is a massive problem in the uk of a lack of positive role models for young black men, exacerbated by the familial break down attendant upon the particular circumstances of black communities in the UK. There is a problem in school around a lack of ambition for these boys; a cultural expectation that they will perform badly and go nowhere. There is very little in the world to balance out that picture for them. Most images of black culture are negative, or idealised to the point of fantasy. Even now, black footballers face monkey calls and racist taunts.

yes, I think it's massive, and has a huge impact. Every first has an impact. I heard a story recently; a young black woman growing up in 1980s Britain, even if she hadnt intended to clothes shop, if she went past a shop and there was a black mannequin in the window, she;d go in and buy whatever that mannequin was wearing. It didnt happen often.

Football and athletic sports have had a black presence for a long time; it is deemed 'appropriate' almost that theybe there. Grand Prix has historically been a sport of the wealthy and the white. This is different to running onto the pitch in an England strip, important though that is.


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