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wafflepirate 10-30-2008 02:05 AM

Instant Karma
 
Ok let me ruin any suprises for anyone who hasn't seen this...

In the following video, a group of teenage boys in a car are video taping one boy opening the car door to kit a cyclist they are passing.
The boy holding the door swings out of the car by mistake after hitting the cyclist, and hits a parked car head first. (No blood, or spattered brains or anything)


The friend who showed me this clip assured me that the boy in the video was dead (she heard it... somewhere)
I can only imagine that at his funeral his friends and family remembered him as "A great guy who was always ready for a laugh" instead of a thoughtless jerk he undoubtedly was, when he was plucked so willingly from the gene pool.

I can't lie, if that was *me* on the bike, I'd have been laughing my BUTT off when he hit the car... The kid was an idiot, along with all his idiot friends, and he *deserved* to get hurt.

Your thoughts?

Crimson Ghost 10-30-2008 02:32 AM

Darwin strikes again.

glatt 10-30-2008 07:25 AM

I haven't seen the video, and I don't plan to, but I know from experience that when you get a group of teenage boys together with no supervision or structure, the median IQ of the group drops by about 40 points. This phenomenon becomes more apparent the greater the interval between times of supervision.

The boy who opened the door was probably a decent kid when left to his own devices.

Treasenuak 10-30-2008 07:32 AM

Peer pressure. It does horrible things to decent kids everywhere. And while the kid DYING might be a bit extreme, I do think it's "turn about's fair play" when he thwacks his head on the car. Karma can be a reeeaaalll bitch!

Shawnee123 10-30-2008 07:37 AM

I was riding my bike home from the pool when I was probably about 14. Some jokester leaned out of the passenger seat of the car he was in and slapped me on the ass as they drove by.

I was pissed! I couldn't do much, because even the Temper of Shawnee could not propel that bike as fast as the car could go.

They could have hurt me, run over me, knocked me over for the next car to run over me...

But I didn't want to see the kid get his head smashed and die.

Kids do stupid things all the time.

SquidGirl 10-30-2008 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 498959)
The boy who opened the door was probably a decent kid when left to his own devices.

So sad...but yet so true....I will admit, I did check out the link and OH MY.....yes, you can tell his friends were totally into it, too.

classicman 10-30-2008 08:45 AM

wafflepirate - That is sad - I see no humor in either his intent nor the outcome. The kid was doing something incredibly stupid and payed what appears to be the ultimate price for it. Glad you found it so funny? WTF is funny about that?

HungLikeJesus 10-30-2008 09:21 AM

Where did wp say it was funny?

Shawnee123 10-30-2008 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 499008)
Where did wp say it was funny?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wafflepirate (Post 498948)
[i]~snipI can only imagine that at his funeral his friends and family remembered him as "A great guy who was always ready for a laugh" instead of a thoughtless jerk he undoubtedly was, when he was plucked so willingly from the gene pool.

I can't lie, if that was *me* on the bike, I'd have been laughing my BUTT off when he hit the car... The kid was an idiot, along with all his idiot friends, and he *deserved* to get hurt.

~snip

Um, right there...

Pico and ME 10-30-2008 09:51 AM

This is such an extreme example, but I'm sure what he is enjoying is that perpetrator of 'meanness and cruelty for the sake of entertainment' got his comeuppance. Not that it is funny like a joke or something.

HungLikeJesus 10-30-2008 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 499010)
Um, right there...

Yeah, but that was conditional funny, not actual funny.

classicman 10-30-2008 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wafflepirate (Post 498948)
I can't lie, if that was *me* on the bike, I'd have been laughing my BUTT off when he hit the car... The kid was an idiot, along with all his idiot friends, and he *deserved* to get hurt.

Your thoughts?

Right here - I assume you would be "laughing my BUTT off" because you thought it was funny. No?

Shawnee123 10-30-2008 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 499029)
This is such an extreme example, but I'm sure what he is enjoying is that perpetrator of 'meanness and cruelty for the sake of entertainment' got his comeuppance. Not that it is funny like a joke or something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 499031)
Yeah, but that was conditional funny, not actual funny.

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 499042)
Right here - I assume you would be "laughing my BUTT off" because you thought it was funny. No?

The guy's head was smashed into tiny bits, presumably. Now, how is that funny under any condition? Who doesn't like to see the perpetrator of poor actions step in dog poo or something, but to say you would laugh your head off (was pun intended?) because someone who did something stupid got their head smashed to bits and probably died at a very young age is, to me, more "meanness and cruelty" than a stupid kid prank gone awry.

:eyebrow:

Pico and ME 10-30-2008 10:35 AM

No, its not funny. But neither would it have been had the biker been seriously injured or killed either. It is altogether unfortunate all the way around.

Shawnee123 10-30-2008 10:37 AM

I agree, the prank wasn't funny. I don't think the kid dying is funny either, and I think that is just the point c-man was trying to make.

I'm glad none of us ever did stupid things when we were young. Think how empty the Cellar would be, since apparently the cost of the stupidity of youth is instant death in which you can't even have a decent open-casket funeral.

This seems to be waffle's wish, anyway.

Will you be my waffle-headed wife? lol

lumberjim 10-30-2008 10:38 AM

I've seen that before, and as I recall, the kid did NOT die. they play it several times over in the video, and he catches a face full of rear bumper, and gets yanked off the door he had swung out on....but you don't see any blood, or anything like that. he probably took a broken jaw, and possibly neck.

regardless: It's not nice to laugh at retards. not even mean retards.

Shawnee123 10-30-2008 10:39 AM

Wow, it looked like a smashed head to me. Glad not.

Though, wp was waxing on the premise that kid was smashy-head.

As you were...

lumberjim 10-30-2008 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wafflepirate (Post 498948)
(No blood, or spattered brains or anything)


maybe you read it too fast

Pico and ME 10-30-2008 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 499050)
... since apparently the cost of the stupidity of youth is instant death in which you can't even have a decent open-casket funeral.

Will you be my waffle-headed wife? lol

I know Ive had a few close calls...but I was lucky. Sometime life just isnt forgiving. Sometimes being stupid can kill you.

glatt 10-30-2008 10:45 AM

Did I ever mention the time I was a teenager and my friend and I tried to get rid of a stump by pouring gasoline all over it and throwing a match at it? Then, when it wasn't burning enough, my friend poured gasoline directly from the tank onto the open flame? But I was never stupid in my youth.

Shawnee123 10-30-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 499054)
maybe you read it too fast

Quote:

Originally Posted by wafflepirate (Post 498948)
Ok let me ruin any suprises for anyone who hasn't seen this...

In the following video, a group of teenage boys in a car are video taping one boy opening the car door to kit a cyclist they are passing.
The boy holding the door swings out of the car by mistake after hitting the cyclist, and hits a parked car head first. (No blood, or spattered brains or anything)


The friend who showed me this clip assured me that the boy in the video was dead (she heard it... somewhere)
I can only imagine that at his funeral his friends and family remembered him as "A great guy who was always ready for a laugh" instead of a thoughtless jerk he undoubtedly was, when he was plucked so willingly from the gene pool.


I can't lie, if that was *me* on the bike, I'd have been laughing my BUTT off when he hit the car... The kid was an idiot, along with all his idiot friends, and he *deserved* to get hurt.

Your thoughts?

I may have read that part too fast, but I was dwelling on this part! :p

edit: I took it to mean you couldn't see blood or brains in the video...but watching the video it sure seems to me it would do some hurtin' on a skull.

Clodfobble 10-30-2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt
Did I ever mention the time I was a teenager and my friend and I tried to get rid of a stump by pouring gasoline all over it and throwing a match at it? Then, when it wasn't burning enough, my friend poured gasoline directly from the tank onto the open flame? But I was never stupid in my youth.

Sure, and I was once literally inches away from getting run over by a motorcycle because I darted out into the road like a moron. But there's a difference between being stupid and being malicious. This kid wasn't doing something dumb to himself a la "Jackass," he was deliberately trying to injure a bicyclist for the fun of it. That's not a prank to me, that's very different.

lumberjim 10-30-2008 11:43 AM

let's look at this from a kids POV. he wasn't trying to INJURE anyone. it was apparently kids on the way home from school, and the kid swatted another kid on the ass as they drove by. hitting him hard enough to injure him in that way probably would have broken his arm. the problem was that the driver swerved and the kid lost balance, and then he swerved again, tossing him right into a parked car.

Sundae 10-30-2008 11:48 AM

Quote:

Sure, and I was once literally inches away from getting run over by a motorcycle because I darted out into the road like a moron. But there's a difference between being stupid and being malicious. This kid wasn't doing something dumb to himself a la "Jackass," he was deliberately trying to injure a bicyclist for the fun of it. That's not a prank to me, that's very different.
AHA - the point I was about to make.
I don't think the kid deserved the payoff - I'm against the death penalty after all.

But to me it's a long way from just being stupid.
Leaning out of a train window is stupid (with potentially similar consequnces, which is why you can't opn them now).
Deliberately doing something to injure another person for your own amusement is not stupidity. I can only hope there are three less malicious people in the world now - because his friends changed their idea about physical injury being funny after something bad happened to their friend.

Clodfobble 10-30-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim
it was apparently kids on the way home from school, and the kid swatted another kid on the ass as they drove by.

Perhaps I misunderstood then. I thought the intention of the prank was to open the car door into the biker as they passed, knocking him off his bike at a minimum of 30 mph.

lumberjim 10-30-2008 12:06 PM

no, if you watch, he leans out the door....past the door, by holding onto the open window and reaches out and smacks the kid in the red shirt on the ass. but, then, he loses balance, and the door swings out, and he falls.....chin first into a parked car's bumper.

Clodfobble 10-30-2008 12:08 PM

Yeah, I saw the impact, but crap was moving too fast for me to follow what was happening before that.

Sundae 10-31-2008 09:11 AM

I'm not sure whether the intent was to hit cyclists with the car door or by hand. Surely the most likely to cause injury to the smacker would be to hit them personally - arm extended outside of the door would take the impact, while the door would be providing an ongoing force. Really badly expressed, perhaps someone could do better. I think it's more likely that the door was intended to take the hit, but the driver would surely have had an issue with damage in that case.

Anyway, even the slightest pat to a cyclist can result in injury - just falling off your bike can leave inches of skin on the road (major ouchie!) and depending on how you land, broken ribs and collar bones are not uncommon. I know from being friends/ related to cyclists.

However they were hoping to disrupt the cyclists' trips, it was still unacceptable and dangerous rather than amusing.


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