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Cloud 10-13-2008 10:34 AM

Need some help with Photoshop Elements
 
if anyone is good with it. I don't know why I'm not able to "get" photos. Just dumb, I guess.

I use it at work--clients send us photos. Single photos I have no problem with, but I've received several slideshow presentations from a client via email in .pdf, and I can't figure out how to work with them. I need to be able to work with the photos individually.

I figured out how to import the slide show, but they appear in a lump. Can I separate them? Or, do I need to ask the client to send them separately in .jpg format?

Cicero 10-13-2008 10:45 AM

You will not be able to manipulate the pdf. unless you have the option in acrobat to screen capture it (the photos) which lowers the quality of the image. Just have them send it as a different file type and separately. Just ask for a copy of the original photos. (so quality doesn't suffer) I'm pretty sure you don't have a different graphics program on that comp right?

Your instincts are correct ma'm. It isn't a problem with Elements...

Cloud 10-13-2008 10:48 AM

yes, that's what I thought. Boo!

and zankuverrrymuch!

bluecuracao 10-13-2008 12:01 PM

If you have Acrobat, you can separate the pages of the PDF in that first.

I'm not too familiar with what Elements offers, but in regular Photoshop, you can open a PDF, and select which page you want to import...just sayin'. :)

Cicero 10-13-2008 12:09 PM

It came as a pdf. Please explain how to extract the photos separately out of the pdf. I would love to know the magic buttons. (I have been doing it wrong!)

Aren't the pages separated but the photos not? Or am I retarded...(yes I know)...

Cloud 10-13-2008 01:28 PM

yes, I have Acrobat. I could extract the pages, I guess. But I still think I need them in jpeg format.

I've been trying and trying to learn Photoshop Elements. It's going verrrryy sloooow!

Cicero 10-13-2008 01:39 PM

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...ernalId=331037

Note on page:
1 Readable images are extracted and imported into the catalog as individual files

dar512 10-13-2008 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 493126)
yes, I have Acrobat.

I bet what you have is Acrobat Reader. You need the Acrobat product ~$300 in order to play with pdf innards.

dar512 10-13-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 493025)
Or, do I need to ask the client to send them separately in .jpg format?

This would be the best solution.

bluecuracao 10-13-2008 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 493128)
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...ernalId=331037

Note on page:
1 Readable images are extracted and imported into the catalog as individual files

So if I'm reading that chart right, PDFs can be opened through Elements, right? If so, the PDF should be workable...

What version of Elements are we talking about here? I am downloading the trial version of 6 for Mac, because now I'm dying to know what the heck is going on.

Cicero 10-13-2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecuracao (Post 493149)
So if I'm reading that chart right, PDFs can be opened through Elements, right? If so, the PDF should be workable...

What version of Elements are we talking about here? I am downloading the trial version of 6 for Mac, because now I'm dying to know what the heck is going on.


Yes there was a hint there about the images being in the catalouge in separate files (if they are readable). The chart means yes to PDF's and if you look further down on the page it clearly mentions..pdf's.

How are you opening the file Cloud? Let's get down to the details here. Where are they saved?

SteveDallas 10-13-2008 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 493133)
This would be the best solution.

And when you ask for them, ask for as high a resolution as possible. "Oh, here, I saved it 600x300 to save space.... can you print me an 8x10 from it??"

Cicero 10-13-2008 03:17 PM

Well the whole thing sounds that stupid so far.

I was sent a TEMPLATE as a pdf the other day. Like everyone has that f'ing program.
Response:
Oh I created it in indesign. Doesn't your office have indesign or a decent design program?


Thanks for designing that so I could create it myself in a word doc for everyone...ass. Yes everyone at the office happens to be very good with indesign which is why they are all event coordinators.

bluecuracao 10-13-2008 04:11 PM

Jeez, Elements took forever to download.

Cicero 10-13-2008 04:17 PM

How much does it use? (too lazy to look up)

Nevermind. It takes 48 mins. just for me to save it to my desktop. Naaah! Just tell me how you like it blue.

Cloud 10-13-2008 04:57 PM

dilemma solved in another way. for now. Might be back with some more questions later.

Thanks to all who helped--I'm going to try a few suggestions here when I have a chance, primarily about using the Acrobat to extract and save individual pages.

Cicero 10-13-2008 09:08 PM

Well...how did you do it m'dear?...You must not disappoint.

Seeing as how blue worked so hard to help.

Cloud 10-13-2008 11:50 PM

boss will review slideshows . . . client will send individual jpeg files of the ones chosen as exhibits.

bluecuracao 10-14-2008 10:27 AM

Okay, I just finished installing Elements. It looks like it can open PDFs the same way the full version of Photoshop does.

Instead of trying to open the PDF through the window that comes up when you launch Elements, close that window and choose Open from the File menu on the menu bar.

Browse for your multi-page PDF in the dialog box that comes up, and open it.

An "Import PDF" window will come up, allowing you to choose which page you want, plus a few other options like size, resolution, etc.

You might want to "flatten" it in the Layers menu before working on the page/image. You can save it as a PSD or JPEG or whatever format you need.

Cicero 10-14-2008 03:26 PM

Well how do you like it? Anything I should know about it? :)

bluecuracao 10-14-2008 03:43 PM

I am surprised how much you can do in it, being a limited version and all.

Cloud 10-14-2008 04:47 PM

I have Photoshop Elements 6, which is about a $300 program (7 is a newer release). It's fully featured for my purposes. It has the Organizer, which I primarily use, because I cannot alter photos which we use as evidence.

Scriveyn 10-16-2008 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecuracao (Post 493149)
... I am downloading the trial version of [Photoshop Elements] 6 for Mac, ...

What's the "trial" in the trial version? Does it expire? Does it have a reduced set of options/functions? Does it let you save your results? Are the saved images somehow "mangled"?

I notice you are using Mac, but perhaps you can tell: I'd like to test my self developed plugins (M$ WIN, 8bf) with the trial version. Would this work?

Thanks,
Scriveyn

bluecuracao 10-16-2008 06:26 PM

On the Adobe.com site, you have the option of downloading trials of what appear to be full versions of their software, which expire in 30 days if you decide not to purchase. I don't think they are limited; they just stop working after a month.

Nothing weird seems to have happened to the JPEG I saved out of Elements, although I didn't look at it that closely, or try to use it in a layout or web program or anything.

If it is a full version as it seems, I don't see why your plugins wouldn't work with it...try it out and let us know what happens!

Cicero 10-16-2008 06:38 PM

I would do a trial on something a little complex and awesome from that site if I were testing. Like photoshop itself or illustrator. But, that's just me.

Definitely let us know how it turns out!

SteveDallas 10-16-2008 10:14 PM

The plugins should work as well as in the paid-up version. However, some Photoshop plugins won't work with Photoshop Elements.

xoxoxoBruce 10-16-2008 11:53 PM

I had several versions of photoshop which I replaced with elements a couple years ago... been very happy with it.

Cicero 10-17-2008 09:29 AM

Really? Ok download back on! :)

xoxoxoBruce 10-17-2008 09:42 AM

Yes, I had 4.0 through 5.5, but because I really wasn't willing to spend the time, or had the need, to become proficient with all the bells and whistles, I found it slow and cumbersome.

When I bought a piece of hardware that had Elements on the software disc, for free, I tried it and found it would do way more than I needed/wanted. Sizing, color/contrast adjusting, arrows, talk bubbles, special effects, etc, are fairly easy to do, and the program is much smaller, so it takes less memory and loads faster.

It works for me, but remember, I'm no photo manipulating expert. :D

Cicero 10-17-2008 11:10 AM

p'shaw.

Lamplighter 09-13-2010 01:08 AM

FWIW
PS Elements 8 for the Mac is available now on trial mode or purchase.
It looks like the cost is only $79 which seems quite reasonable,
I have not used PS for many yrs and am suspicious that other
components may be needed and will have a higher cost.

The download was >1 GB and took about 20 min to transfer !!!!!!!!!
How can a software program be maintained at that size ?
Remember when MS Word 5.0 (Mac) was only 100k.

In any case, I've just started the tutorials and it all seems to be slow.
Just finding the next tutorial taxes my Mac-trained memory circuits.
Why couldn't Adobe just give a NEXT button?

I suppose if you use PS professionally it's worth the effort,
but right now I'm not optimistic about getting thru all this.
It's more than a bit overwhelming.

xoxoxoBruce 09-13-2010 01:30 AM

A professional wouldn't be using Elements, they'd most likely use cs4 or cs5.

Lamplighter 09-13-2010 09:35 AM

I have no idea what it is, but this download of PSE 8 includes something named Adobe Bridge CS4.

One reason for my previous post is that I'm overwhelmed by the size, complexity, and mostly the feeling of not seeing where to even start on this beast. I am used to learning curves on databases, etc. but PS doesn't immediately make sense to me (yet)... seems like too many teeny, tiny icons on the screen.

So, I'm starting thru the tutorials and we'll see where this goes.


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