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xoxoxoBruce 09-01-2008 12:56 AM

Republican Convention
 
Scaled back happenings on Monday. Laura's speech canceled and W watching the weather channel from Texas.
Tuesday, Cheney is leaving the country for 4 days.

classicman 09-01-2008 09:10 AM

Ya think the Almighty is tryin to tell the Repubs something?

SamIam 09-01-2008 11:59 AM

Let's hope they keep up that level of enthusiasm for the entire campaign. ;) I got visited by an African American lady who is canvassing for Obama. She was so excited, she was almost turning cartwheels. :eek:

richlevy 09-01-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 479878)
Ya think the Almighty is tryin to tell the Repubs something?

Well someone up there likes them. They now have a legitimate excuse for excluding GWB from the convention.

This is much better than the alien invasion they were getting ready to stage.:alien2::vader1::biggrinba:borg:

BigV 09-02-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 479878)
Ya think the Almighty is tryin to tell the Repubs something?

Pat Robertson prayed for rain, so that Obama's acceptance speech at Invesco Stadium would be rained out. Seems like He showed mercy instead by watering down the RNC 08 par-tay!

wolf 09-02-2008 10:43 AM

If anything, I think it's becoming clearer this year how unnecessary a spectacle involving a lot of people in funny hats and vests covered in more flair than a Chotchkie's waitress. The candidate is already determined, the platform planks long since decided upon and nailed in by the Inner Party and all the conventions do at this point is mess up the TV schedule and reinforce the notion that white people can't dance.

Undertoad 09-03-2008 08:43 PM

Romney: 3 out of 10. Pretty boy speak nice, but his repeated emphasis of Librul vs Conservative was divisive red meat for his own side, not making the case to America. In his time slot maybe that's to be expected, but fuck him.

Huckabee: 8 out of 10. Passionate populism, but not overly passionate. It's not exactly my cup of tea, but it's okay; and Huck has this likability characteristic that I can't escape. He comes across as a decent guy gently making the case for his side. The uncle or cousin you liked to listen to at family gatherings.

Elspode 09-03-2008 09:39 PM

Yawn. Let me know when Sarah blinks her headlights at the conclusion of her speech. *That's* something I'll be sorry I missed.

Juniper 09-03-2008 09:49 PM

OK -- I went up to watch just now but got bored. It's not that I don't care; I just find the whole situation so damn depressing. I don't like Obama, so if I vote for McCain, it will be because he's not Obama. And so nothing else matters. I don't like McCain either, so my vote will be about who I dislike less. Blech..

Vote for someone else and it's like not bothering to vote at all. I made that mistake way back in 1992, so this time I might just stay home so I don't have to admit to something embarrassing like voting for Perot.

Which, let me tell you, is a BIG DEAL for me - I am a serious voting advocate; I never miss a vote. Even the little local ones. I take it very seriously. So if I say I ain't voting, wow, you know?

My husband wuvs Palin. Whatever. I told him that I thought picking Palin just flushed the whole campaign down the toilet. He asked me who I thought would have been a better pick.

Um....got it! Hillary! Now THAT would've been a ticket!

Undertoad 09-03-2008 10:23 PM

Palin: 4 out of 10. She had a particularly difficult dive to do: convince the electorate of her gravitas. She got to the hard part and started reading the prompters harder. She made a few deft attacks, otherwise a lot of it was too inside poker for the rest of the country to care. It serves as just good enough of an introduction to allow them to get a foot in the door of the electorate. It keeps them int he game, but it needed to be much more than that.

Undertoad 09-04-2008 09:27 AM

Many people are rating Palin higher than I did for her attack dog parts, which I felt were mixed. I also faulted her for her accent, which I found a little annoying and nasal at times, but that's probably not fair. Now this gets floated:
Quote:

Halfway through Sarah Palin's speech tonight at the RNC, people following the speech noticed she was deviating from the prepared text.

According to sources close to the McCain campaign, the teleprompter continued scrolling during applause breaks. As a result, half way through the speech, the speech had scrolled significantly from where Governor Palin was in the speech. The malfunction also occurred during Rudy Giuliani's speech, explaining his significant deviations from his speech.
It's possible - I don't know where the deviations are.

I also thought she was a bit too factually weak, but I didn't take points off from Obama for that sort of thing. My meter may be a little off.

dar512 09-04-2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Juniper (Post 480743)
I am a serious voting advocate; I never miss a vote. Even the little local ones. I take it very seriously. So if I say I ain't voting, wow, you know?

Yup. I do.

I still like the idea of none-of-the-above. If none-of-the-above wins, they have to do the whole thing over again.

classicman 09-04-2008 11:42 AM

That's a great one Dar, but we'd have to keep the incumbent till the reelection was over.

ZenGum 09-04-2008 09:40 PM

Preferential voting, guys.
Who do you want most?
Okay, if it's not them, who's your second pick?
And so on, all the way down the ballot.
It's fun because you get to decide who to put LAST!

Undertoad 09-04-2008 10:37 PM

J. McCain: 8 out of 10. Told his war story personally, which is something he doesn't often do. Call for action and strong ending. Gloss over the issues. Show grace. Part of his job was to show enough vigor to not fall relentlessly behind in image; I think he mostly did that. His tic of grinning at every applause line became distracting.

elSicomoro 09-04-2008 11:13 PM

I tried to watch and listen to the RNC. I really did. Listened to some of Fred Thompson's speech...Rudy...Sarah.

I have no problem admitting I'm a liberal, but I listened to the DNC mostly as a cynic or sideline snickerer. I didn't think Obama's speech was all that great. It was good, but nothing new. But trying to listen to the RNC...it just irritated the shit out of me.

TheMercenary 09-05-2008 11:25 AM

I listened to Palin. I couldn't bring myself to listen to Obama or McCain. I didn't watch either one.

Flint 09-05-2008 11:27 AM

I watched Palin with the sound off.

classicman 09-05-2008 11:28 AM

Analysis: McCain sincere, short on answers
 
From Bill Schneider
CNN Senior Political Analyst


Quote:

ST. PAUL, Minnesota (CNN) -- It's odd to present yourself as a maverick to the most partisan audience imaginable, as John McCain did Thursday night.
Quote:


But the real audience wasn't sitting in the Xcel Center this evening to watch the Arizona senator accept the Republican Party's presidential nomination; it was the independents at home looking for a reason to vote for him.

It wasn't that long ago that McCain was the Republican most admired among Democrats. He retains some residual popularity with Democrats and particularly independents.
Seemed like a rather fair assessment of what l saw as well.

TheMercenary 09-05-2008 11:32 AM

I still think that she is going to bring in a number of people who want to find a reason to vote for McCain. Most of the people want to vote for Obama as a protest vote for the last 8 years of Bush, I understand that, but ask them where Obama stands on some of the issues like health care or the economy and you get a blank stare. Same goes for McCain, people know they want McCain because they can't stand Obama, but they can't tell you much about some of the larger issues pressing society.

Flint 09-05-2008 11:34 AM

We're locked into "against" voting.

We need more than two parties.

Two parties guarantee "against" voting.

TheMercenary 09-05-2008 11:45 AM

I agree.

sweetwater 09-05-2008 01:13 PM

We do have more than 2 parties. Ah, nevermind. Rock, paper, scissors, anyone?

lookout123 09-05-2008 02:20 PM

I actually listened to McCain last night. I was pretty impressed. It is certainly the best speech he's ever given. That said, it's just another speech.

BigV 09-05-2008 06:30 PM

I listened to much of the RNC, including Huckabee's agonizingly slow and boring (and ultimately dumb) story about the teacher that had the desks removed from her classroom. Did anyone else hear it?

All the students were suprised, naturally. When asked about the desks, the teacher replied that they could have desks when they told the teacher how they could earn them. Some kids tried to answer: "get good grades?" nope, "behave?", nope. No one had the right answer and eventually the whole school was abuzz. The kids gave up.

Then the teacher gave the sign and a line of veterans in their uniforms came in and placed the desks in orderly rows for the kids. The teacher explained that the kids didn't need to earn their desks, because these brave veterans had already earned them for them (by defending our country).

Huckabee went on to say that because of John McCain's service to our country we should give him a desk, and "I have just the one in mind" hinting at the president's desk in the oval office.

FFS people, we OWE McCain the presidency because he is a veteran?

No.

We do not.

BigV 09-05-2008 08:39 PM

hehehehehehe....


I know this post is contradicted by a recent post I made in the Fail! thread... but I still find this funny as hell. And.. It's dems and reps doin it. I must say I found the signs MUCH more prominent in the rep's convention.

All those "handmade" signs. They're not.
Quote:


The Illusion of Handmade Signs Made by RNC Convention Goers-That was a Scam


It's one thing if they pass out nicely printed signs but when you put handmade signs on chairs AS IF the participants brought them in themselves and had made them, it's a trick.

Quote:

Wondering why all those handmade signs you saw in the audience last night during the Republican National Convention looked so similar to each other? That's because they were all made by RNC staff or volunteers beforehand and distributed to selected attendees!

I know this because last night, returning to my seat just before Meg Whitman's speech, I noticed that the nice young lady sitting next to me all of a sudden had a sign when she didn't before. Here she is, Christine Hall, 23, with her "handmade" sign.

I asked her what it said, and she showed me, then added bluntly that she didn't make it. I looked all around us and behind me were a gaggle of identical "Students for McCain" signs. "I [heart] Mac" made a few appearances as well.
I guess I'll have to keep my inner cynic alive a while longer...

xoxoxoBruce 09-06-2008 01:50 AM

The conventions are a well orchestrated dog & pony show. They do their best to make sure nothing is left to chance.

smoothmoniker 09-06-2008 02:52 AM

One line from McCain's speech actually got me choked up, because it encapsulates so much of what I love about this country:

"This is America: nothing is inevitable here."

Pico and ME 09-06-2008 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 481484)
The conventions are a well orchestrated dog & pony show. They do their best to make sure nothing is left to chance.


Yup...until they goof.

Pico and ME 09-07-2008 12:56 PM

Triumph the Insult Comic Dog at the Republican National Convention....hilarious.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=511_1220605235

richlevy 09-07-2008 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 481766)
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog at the Republican National Convention....hilarious.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=511_1220605235

I think Triumph would have been the perfect VP pick for McCain. All he really wants is someone with celebrity status to attack the Democratic candidates.

"I like Obama. I really do. He would make a great president. For me to poop on!"


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