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RellikLaerec 06-25-2008 09:53 AM

Holding out!
 
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Little old lady held out till the end. Just amazing people can hold out even under these conditions! Kudos to the lady and everyone in support!

BigV 06-25-2008 10:24 AM

She's in my neighborhood... Her house is about a five minute drive from our home. It wasn't about the money--"a million dollars"--but about the fact that she *had* what she wanted, her home. And no amount of money could provide what she wanted but didn't yet have, the chance to die in the same home where her mother died. She did get that, eventually.

In a refreshing show of humanity, the project manager of the huge construction project that *dominates* her property, befriended the little old lady. He eventually cooked meals for her, checked in on her daily, drove her to the doctor. I'm gratified to learn that there are people, still, who can be civil while being on opposite sides of a given situation.

The picture above does not do justice to the claustrophobic mismatch of these two properties. I'll take some pics if anyone's interested.

I'm also relieved that this situation didn't devolve into an eminent domain/takings debacle. Not everything has a price. Or, perhaps, some prices are so dear that all parties agree they're too high.

glatt 06-25-2008 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 464748)
The picture above does not do justice to the claustrophobic mismatch of these two properties. I'll take some pics if anyone's interested.

I'm also relieved that this situation didn't devolve into an eminent domain/takings debacle.

I think the mismatch is a debacle. The officials who greenlighted the commercial project like this should be ashamed of themselves. There should be setbacks from her property, and the commercial building should be stepped away from her property so that it's only one or two stories where it adjoins her propery.

This is a textbook example of how not to do development.

bigw00dy 06-25-2008 11:05 AM

bigv,

I would love to see a few more pictures of you could. Maybe one that could be blown up a little. I find the story very heart-tugging!! ;-(

Clodfobble 06-25-2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt
I think the mismatch is a debacle. The officials who greenlighted the commercial project like this should be ashamed of themselves. There should be setbacks from her property, and the commercial building should be stepped away from her property so that it's only one or two stories where it adjoins her propery.

Part of the plan (after they realized she wouldn't sell) was to wait and acquire her land after she died. There was a quote in another article from the developer, saying specifically that they had left open holes in the construction for the appropriate beams to be inserted when the land was inevitably absorbed. The project manager who befriended her may or may not have had completely altruistic intentions... but the fact remains that now she has passed on with no living relatives, and only one close friend who was there with her until the end. The will hasn't been made public, but I bet I can guess who she left the land to.

glatt 06-25-2008 02:45 PM

And so they made the poor old lady endure that construction and aggravation up until she drew her last breath.

Edit: You expect a commercial developer to behave this way, but what excuse do the Seattle zoning/building officials have for their behavior? They approved this development. They approved what was done to this old lady.

spudcon 06-25-2008 04:57 PM

It's only a house. If people would put less emphasis on material goods like houses, oil, television etc., this world would be a tree hugger's paradise.

lookout123 06-25-2008 04:59 PM

*looks around* is this the non-sequitor thread?

classicman 06-25-2008 08:06 PM

Bless her soul - certainly one of the last of a dying breed - Those without a price...

xoxoxoBruce 06-25-2008 10:42 PM

Well there goes todays IOtD. :haha:

HungLikeJesus 06-25-2008 11:08 PM

This makes me think of Poletown, where, in 1981, General Motors and the cities of Detroit and Hamtramck, Michigan, used eminent domain to take over 1,300 homes, plus numerous businesses and churches, evicting about 4,000 people. They then leveled the whole area and built a Cadillac plant.

The plant was supposed to employ 6,500 workers, but most of the land was turned into parking lots and the plant only employed about 3,000 workers.

Flint 06-25-2008 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 464888)
Well there goes todays IOtD. :haha:

Funny, I just assumed this was an IOtD.

RellikLaerec 06-26-2008 09:20 AM

Well.. I forgot that posting in IOtD was left to anyone now and was late and tired. oops. If someone wants to move it.
Yea I would love to see more pics of this. Maybe BigV could post more in IOtD.

xoxoxoBruce 06-26-2008 10:24 AM

Excellent Idea, for Big V to do an IOtD with better pictures.

Flint 06-26-2008 10:29 AM

Hear, hear!

glatt 06-26-2008 10:31 AM

BigV certainly has the mad skillz to take a better picture too. And a higher rez one.

Tink 06-26-2008 10:42 AM

BV,

You should take one from the bridge looking down towards Leary. And also from Cash & Carry. That way you can get the size of the complex she was surrounded by.

History: It used to be a dirt parking lot for dump trucks. Ridiculous. Sshe was surrounded by trash constantly and she wouldn't budge then either. She was a sort of icon for standing up for her rights. The area was always run down. I imagine that when she moved in, the area was more woods than anything.

glatt 06-26-2008 11:01 AM

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Her house in "better" times.

RellikLaerec 06-26-2008 11:25 PM

If anyone has google earth here are the co-ordinates: 47°39'44.47"N 122°22'31.34"W. It's not as new as the picture in the articale but you really do get the scope as to how cramped it was.

BigV 06-27-2008 02:33 PM

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I'll try to orient you so you can better visualize the situation. The picture in the opening post was taken facing due north.

The first picture in this post is taken from across the intersection facing southwest, looking at the northeast corner of the building. I'm due north of Cash and Carry.

The second picture is taken looking to the northwest from the middle of the block. It is the first place you can "see" the lady's property.

BigV 06-27-2008 02:37 PM

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Approaching her house...

And we can finally see the actual structure.

BigV 06-27-2008 02:49 PM

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It's really cramped here...

Clodfobble 06-27-2008 02:51 PM

Well, I bet her electricity costs went down, with all that insulation and shade around her house...

BigV 06-27-2008 02:54 PM

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The west side of the property line, looking north. I think the white plywood wall on the right is on her property--a shield to protect from flying construction debris.

The second picture is looking upward at the eastern edge of her roof.

BigV 06-27-2008 03:02 PM

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Still south of her house, now looking northeast. The new building just swallows hers up.

BigV 06-27-2008 03:07 PM

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Mike's Chili Parlor still stands on the northwest corner of the block. It's a dive.

A small memorial posted on her fence.

glatt 06-27-2008 03:12 PM

Excellent pictures BigV! Much better coverage than the original.

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 465330)
I think the white plywood wall on the right is on her property--a shield to protect from flying construction debris.

It predates the construction. But it's clearly a shield of some sort (see post 18.)

BigV 06-27-2008 03:17 PM

You're probably right. I think it's her "fence". An opaque light colored "fence". A wall, really, to separate her property from the wasteland around her. I remember that lot before the new building was erected. The picture in post #18 is about on target. What a dump.

dar512 06-27-2008 03:19 PM

Nice pictures V.

What's going in that building?

HungLikeJesus 06-27-2008 03:25 PM

Is that what people mean when they talk about a gated community?

Flint 06-27-2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 465341)
What's going in that building?

I think it's one of those mega-churches.

glatt 06-27-2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 465341)
What's going in that building?

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Ballard Blocks

Brokers: Maria Royer

This exciting new 136,000-square-foot, mixed-use development of an entire city block in the Ballard neighborhood of Seattle will open in 2008. Anchored by Trader Joe’s and LA Fitness Health Club, it also offers an additional 50,000 square feet of retail space and 458 parking stalls. Ballard Blocks offers the irresistible combination of suburban convenience with urban style in one of the city’s hippest and most popular city neighborhoods.

Flint 06-27-2008 03:44 PM

The only thing more irresistably hip and stylish would be building the damn thing on a Native American burial ground.

dar512 06-27-2008 04:13 PM

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Anchored by Trader Joe’s and LA Fitness Health Club, it also offers an additional 50,000 square feet of retail space
Because, you know, we Americans don't buy enough stuff.

Sundae 06-27-2008 06:27 PM

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Anchored by Trader Joe’s and LA Fitness Health Club
Sod having balls of steel to protect you, in the US you tether your buildings with shops and gyms!

Griff 06-28-2008 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 465323)
I'll try to orient you so you can better visualize the situation. The picture in the opening post was taken facing due north.

Let this be a warning people the Cellar is everywhere watching everything. Google wants to be us.

spudcon 06-28-2008 08:02 PM

Are there no zoning laws in Seattle? Most places won't allow any new construction within 100 feet of an existing home.

RellikLaerec 06-28-2008 11:02 PM

I think here in Ohio, there has to be a 5 foot beautification strip between the properties. I might be wrong.

Griff 06-29-2008 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 465562)
Are there no zoning laws in Seattle? Most places won't allow any new construction within 100 feet of an existing home.

Seattle is one of the most highly regulated cities planetwide. Apparently, this lady found herself at odds with the desires of the regulators.

spudcon 06-29-2008 04:30 PM

So, the laws don't count if you piss off the regulators in Seattle?

xoxoxoBruce 06-29-2008 04:44 PM

You're basing that on your assumption that there is some kind of restriction on building within 100 feet of a dwelling. There is no such law in most urban, and few suburban areas, anywhere I've lived.


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