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Spectacle 05-25-2008 03:56 PM

Hot dogs or Brats
 
I know you'll eat a hamburger tomorrow, but which one of these would you prefer to pig out on?

Brats as in bratwursts, mind you.

Pie 05-25-2008 08:57 PM

Anything spicier -- haven't had a good brat in years.

lumberjim 05-25-2008 09:09 PM

spectacle, thread tools, add a poll to this thread.


id rather a burger to a dog, but a brot to a dog easy. with mustard. NO KETCHUP! you'll fail the cellar entry quiz on that one.

Cloud 05-25-2008 09:09 PM

YES, ketchup and cheese on hot dogs!

I can't fail the entry test--it's way too late!

lumberjim 05-25-2008 09:40 PM

get out!

Cloud 05-25-2008 11:33 PM

nope! (slowly and sloppily eats big plate of hot dogs in front of ljim. With cheese. and CATSUP!)

(slurp!)

Sundae 05-26-2008 04:59 AM

English mustard and ketchup.
And I don't really know the difference between hot dogs and brats.

But it's allowed.
I am a furriner.

DanaC 05-26-2008 07:13 AM

I think the brat is more substantial, with a tougher outer skin?

I like me some hotdog.....with lots of bright yelow english mustard and tomato ketchup oh yeah.

skysidhe 05-26-2008 08:49 AM

...and don't forget the sometimes chopped onion,relish and chili.

I just bought Oscar Meyer beef dogs on Saturday. Hebrew National is another yummy dog.I don't eat alot of hotdogs but if I do go hog wild then they have to be gooders.

A good brat does have it's place though.

What are other peoples favorite brands btw? If I can intrude on specs poll.

zippyt 05-26-2008 09:41 AM

Johnsonville brats ,
Spicey brown mustard

In Iceland they had Lamb dogs , brown mustard and onions
YUMMMMMMY !!!!

regular.joe 05-26-2008 09:55 AM

Hell yea, Johnsonville brats, on the BBQ, just a little blackened.

skysidhe 05-26-2008 10:22 AM

yeah Johnsonville IS SOO good.

BrianR 05-26-2008 10:34 AM

Tonight it's gonna be burgers and pork chops and maybe a nice thick steak (it IS Texas after all), along with a few cold ones raised to my comrades in arms lost and injured in battle with the enemy.

I remember.

Cicero 05-26-2008 11:30 AM

Peppered Lamb patties and Thai Seasoned, Chicken.

freshnesschronic 05-26-2008 01:55 PM

Ballpark hot dogs. Michael Jordan advertised them in the 90s and they are my favorite.

bluecuracao 05-26-2008 02:07 PM

We'll be having Hebrew National dawgs today, though my favorites are Nathan's. Mustard and ketchup on mine, please!

If it had been my choice to make, I would've picked BOTH brats and dogs...but I was the one too lazy to go to the grocery store today.

Drax 05-26-2008 02:10 PM

Brats, FTMFW!

elSicomoro 05-26-2008 02:12 PM

April and I had dogs from Woofies a little while ago...mmmm...

DanaC 05-26-2008 03:27 PM

My favourite hotdogs are the fairground/carboot-sale kiosk ones...or the little ones they sell at Ikea.

Shawnee123 05-27-2008 01:34 PM

Yuck. I tend to not eat beef-stuffed pork or pork-stuffed beef.

Oh, and brats stink sumpin' awful.

dar512 05-27-2008 03:11 PM

Johnsonville brats boiled in beer and onions till they're mostly cooked.

Then put on the grill for about 10 minutes.

The best. Juicy on the inside, crispy skin.

And LJ is right in this case. Putting ketchup on brats is an offense against nature.

dar512 05-27-2008 03:17 PM

On the other hand, I have to admit that what I actually made yesterday was ribs. Baby-backs, slathered with mustard, brown sugar and spices. Then slow-cooked in the smoker for five hours. (A mixture of hickory and oak) One of the many pleasures of BBQ is making the whole neighborhood jealous. :D

They were very tasty.

Clodfobble 05-27-2008 05:10 PM

Ha. You know what I made yesterday?


At lunchtime I had a sandwich from that local cheesesteak place I've talked about before.

At dinner... I had a sandwich from Subway.


Happy Memorial Day!!

TheMercenary 05-27-2008 08:40 PM

Red Beans and Rice with brats cut up in them.

Shawnee123 05-28-2008 04:15 PM

I love red beans and rice...but I put smoked sausage in. Yummers! (Why do I like smoked sausage but not brats? Ida know...I'm weird like that!)

footfootfoot 05-28-2008 08:14 PM

When I was a kid I liked hot dogs butterflied and fried crispy, then on toasted bread with mustard.

lumberjim 05-28-2008 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 457692)
When I was a kid I liked hot dogs butterflied and fried crispy, then on toasted bread with mustard.

i was always pissed when we didn't have Martins Potato (hot dog) rolls. white bread wrapped around a hot dog always seemed so ghetto.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/4...c36397.jpg?v=0

these are burger rolls...i couldn't find a good pic of the hot dog rolls

footfootfoot 05-28-2008 09:30 PM

Potato rolls are the shiznit. What can I say about the bread? For a while I would only eat any kind of sandwich on toasted Arnold's white. Except pbj. That could be untoasted. PBJ on toast was only for certain moods.

I think I was a picky eater.

I didn't eat cold cuts until I was in my 20s.

Urbane Guerrilla 05-30-2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 456956)
English mustard and ketchup.
And I don't really know the difference between hot dogs and brats.

Wieners on the one hand, bratwursts on the other. Coarser grind, natural casings. American sausages have a decidedly German cast.

I agree bratwurst doesn't dance well with ketchup, but mustard is fine, und mit Sauerkraut.

Sundae 05-30-2008 03:51 PM

Since seeing V's hotdogs on the bbq I have been doing some reading up.
Mostly, what we put on the bbq needs cooking. If we're having hotdogs they are usually just boiled (except at the cinema, where they are rolled over a heat source?!) But we also call sausages hotdogs if they are bbq'd and then served in hotdog buns.

Even at a fair or from a mobile catering van, the items sold will be some kind of (previously raw) sausage, although they are technically fried by being cooked on a hotplate.

I'm fascinated :)

Happy Monkey 05-30-2008 04:16 PM

Panting is much less annoying than a spoiled kid, so I've gotta go with the hot dogs.

binky 05-30-2008 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 457355)
Johnsonville brats boiled in beer and onions till they're mostly cooked.

Then put on the grill for about 10 minutes.

The best. Juicy on the inside, crispy skin.

And LJ is right in this case. Putting ketchup on brats is an offense against nature.

Putting ketchup on anything is an offense against nature :vomit:

zippyt 06-01-2008 10:30 PM

How Brats are done in OUR house !!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3264/...b976fcb52a.jpg
Turbodog beer , onion , Johnsonville Brats
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2043/...dbcf36902f.jpg
Get the Onions going ,
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/...da4eb73211.jpg
Add the beer and the brats
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2055/...e7d72a585b.jpg
Boil them on down , but save the Pan Juice ( You WILL need that for later !!)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/...00f32922b9.jpg
A little time on the grill , thats what the top rack is for
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/...39b76eefe7.jpg
Some pan Juice and some Good Grainy Deli mustard and its ALL good !!!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3026/...e3e1647e8f.jpg
Of corse a Fillet and some tatters and green beens don't hurt eather !!!

classicman 06-01-2008 10:51 PM

nice zip! - now I'm hungry!

Flint 06-02-2008 09:51 AM

Goddang, zip... I'm totally doin' that.

barefoot serpent 06-02-2008 12:41 PM

Brats -- but only if when you bite into it there is a bubble of molten grease that squirts directly into your eye or onto a brand new tie.

jinx 06-02-2008 01:09 PM

I'm gonna try that too Zip, and I don't even really like brats. I think its the onions that got me...

Flint 06-02-2008 02:10 PM

For me, it was the whole reduction sauce thing.

dar512 06-02-2008 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barefoot serpent (Post 458813)
Brats -- but only if when you bite into it there is a bubble of molten grease that squirts directly into your eye or onto a brand new tie.

If you poke 'em with a fork before you put them on the grill, they won't split as badly and they also won't squirt in your eye.

dar512 06-02-2008 02:48 PM

Nice pictures, Zip. That's pretty much what I had in mind here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 457355)
Johnsonville brats boiled in beer and onions till they're mostly cooked.

Then put on the grill for about 10 minutes.

But I don't do the reduction thing.

Another tip is to brown some onion chunks on the grill with the brats. They make a nice aroma and are a nice topping to the brats (if you don't do the reduction thing).

Flint 06-02-2008 03:44 PM

If you poke 'em, so they don't split... how do you know when they're done?

dar512 06-02-2008 04:10 PM

I take no chances with pork. I make sure there's no pink left in the center.

footfootfoot 06-02-2008 08:30 PM

Pork, don't worry about. A friend of mine who is a large animal vet said there hasn't been a case of trichinosis in this country in over 30 years. Then again she raises organic pigs. Well, clean-ish, well lighted, gently smothered with a feather pillow in their sleep.

Chickens, on the other hand. OMG. clean em and clean em again and keeep those fuckers cold as ice until you are ready to cook them through and through.

Wait, we're talking about snausages. never mind. cook that pork.

Sundae 06-02-2008 08:34 PM

It's rarely the animals these days, and all in the cooking.
Chicken & pork - pink is only cute on one type of Barbie.

glatt 06-03-2008 08:08 AM

best bratwursts are the white ones made of finely ground veal.

dar512 06-03-2008 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 459066)
best bratwursts are the white ones made of finely ground veal.

I've had those. I thought they were too bland.

glatt 06-03-2008 09:16 AM

I've had bland white ones too. They often have some sort of green herb in them.

The kind I'm thinking of have a mild spiciness, and are awesome.

Mainly it's the fine grinding I like. I don't like the coarse ground wursts that much. They tend to have pockets of fat so you get squirted when you bite into them. If you think of a typical hot dog, the frankfurter, it's all one consistency inside. You don't get gristle chunks in your teeth because the gristle is ground up for you. These are ground up like that.

DanaC 06-03-2008 09:40 AM

Veal is one meat I will not eat. It tastes great, but the price in terms of animal exploitation is too great for me to enjoy it.

glatt 06-03-2008 09:45 AM

But these are the scraps, that would otherwise be thrown away. If you are going to exploit a baby cow, you might as well us it all rather than waste some.

DanaC 06-03-2008 10:11 AM

*blinks* ok.

zippyt 06-03-2008 09:07 PM

For me, it was the whole reduction sauce thing.

We use Turbo dog from Abita , dark beer , strong . sorta salty taste . good beer to drink , Better to cook with !!!

zippyt 06-03-2008 09:20 PM

Jinx and Flint , let me know How it comes out !!
PICS !!!

Flint 06-03-2008 11:01 PM

Is that one of those really hoppy beers?

zippyt 06-03-2008 11:21 PM

If you slug back 3-4 of them YOU will be Hoppy !!!!!

Sundae 06-04-2008 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 459097)
Veal is one meat I will not eat. It tastes great, but the price in terms of animal exploitation is too great for me to enjoy it.

Veal production has come a long way. Crates are no longer used in the UK or in Europe. I figure 9/10 you'd be more ethically justified in eating veal than in having a KFC. And certainly more so than eating non free range pork. Pigs are as intelligent as dogs, and are often factory farmed.

I'd eat veal if I knew where it came from. The only factory farmed meat I buy is for Diz (Sainsbury's Basics chicken wings and legs). And even that troubles my conscience.

DanaC 06-04-2008 08:02 AM

KFC in the UK have a policy of using free range chickens

Sundae 06-04-2008 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 459340)
KFC in the UK have a policy of using free range chickens

I stand corrected. You probably shouldn't have told me that though.
Zinger Tower Burger. Nom nom nom....

glatt 06-04-2008 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 459340)
KFC in the UK have a policy of using free range chickens

In the US, "free range" only means that the birds have access to the outside, it doesn't say how large that outside area is or what it's like out there. You can have a huge chicken house with a little hole in the wall leading to a 2 meter square gravel pen, and call your chickens "free range." I wonder what UK regulations are like.

Sundae 06-04-2008 10:09 AM

From the DEFRA website (UK Ministry)
Quote:

Barn
The barn system has a series of perches and feeders at different levels. The maximum stocking density is 9 birds per square metre and there must be at least 250cm square of litter area/bird. Perches for the birds must be installed to allow 15 cm of perch per hen. There must be at least 10cm of feeder/bird and at least one drinker/10 birds. There must be one nest for every 7 birds or 1 square metre of nest space for every 120 birds. Water and feeding troughs are raised so that the food is not scattered

Free range
In free-range systems, the birds are housed as described in the barn system above. In addition birds must have continuous daytime access to open runs which are mainly covered with vegetation and with a maximum stocking density of 2,500 birds per hectare.
A hectare is 10,000 square metres = 2.471 acres

glatt 06-04-2008 11:02 AM

So 2,500 birds per 10,000 square meters. I wonder why they didn't just say 4 birds per square meter? That doesn't sound like a lot of room, but it's better than the conditions inside the buildings.


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