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footfootfoot 05-14-2008 11:17 AM

Drug problem?
 
Discuss:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/fe...ohol.davidrose

Trilby 05-14-2008 11:49 AM

There should never be a 'war' on anything. We should welcome and be one with the moment. *zengirl*

SteveDallas 05-14-2008 12:22 PM

Anybody who thinks what the US has been doing about drugs has actually helped, is, well, smoking something.

Shawnee123 05-14-2008 12:30 PM

Hey, it's working at least as well as Prohibition did! Oh, never mind. :blush:

HungLikeJesus 05-14-2008 01:17 PM

I'm with Brianna. We need to have a war on war.

footfootfoot 05-14-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 453660)
I'm with Brianna. We need to have a war on war.

Right Arm! Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity. Oh, nevermind.

Sundae 05-14-2008 02:22 PM

Interesting though, that the Dutch seem to have accepted the path from soft drugs to hard, whereas cannabis law reformers in this country vehemently deny it exists.

Flint 05-14-2008 02:24 PM

Well, as George Carlin said, mother's milk leads to everything!

Sundae 05-14-2008 02:28 PM

As an ex smoker that didn't progress to hard drug addiction, I have always denied it too. But I have to admit I place more credance on the connection if it comes from der Nederlands than from British (or American) right wing politicians.

Aliantha 05-14-2008 05:46 PM

Of course you're 'more likely' to do hard drugs if you've done soft drugs first, but just because you smoke pot doesn't mean you're definitely going to try doing heroin or other hard drugs.

If you have a drink you're more likely to get drunk than someone who doesn't, but not everyone who drinks gets drunk, and not everyone who drinks gets loaded every time. And not everyone who gets drunk beats their spouse either. And not everyone who gets drunk once then gets drunk every night.

There are variables, and everyone's different and makes different choices. Sure you'd be more likely to do hard drugs after soft drugs, but it doesn't mean you will.

Urbane Guerrilla 05-15-2008 12:07 AM

Not everyone who beats their spouse is drunk, come to that.

The professional abstainer's real point is that this pitfall is, after all, avoidable.

headsplice 05-21-2008 10:50 AM

I've always thought that the 'gateway' to hard drugs from soft is more social than biological. Duh...you have to meet a drug dealer to buy pot. If s/he's got something else, you're more likely to try it. Especially if s/he gives you a deal on a package.

Shawnee123 05-21-2008 11:15 AM

Yeah, most dealers will offer you a drug Happy Meal. You get three joints with your choice of grape or cinnamon rolling papers, and a small side of coke.:right:

footfootfoot 05-21-2008 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 455669)
Yeah, most dealers will offer you a drug Happy Meal. You get three joints with your choice of grape or cinnamon rolling papers, and a small side of coke.:right:

Would you like that supersized?

Shawnee123 05-21-2008 03:08 PM

Yes. Yes I would.

classicman 05-21-2008 03:20 PM

2 for me please -


oh wait - I don't do that anymore - nevermind

headsplice 05-22-2008 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 455734)
Yes. Yes I would.

Note to self: visit Ohio.

classicman 05-22-2008 03:35 PM

Get in line.

DanaC 05-23-2008 02:28 AM

.......we're all talking about this like taking hard drugs is a bad thing....

dar512 05-23-2008 09:12 AM

Faces of meth users

spudcon 05-23-2008 09:44 AM

Hard drug use isn't a lark, it's killing our culture. Hollywood and the media pay lip service to solving social ills, then turn around and trivialize or glamorize drug use.

TheMercenary 05-23-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 456333)

Yep. We see them all the time.

Undertoad 05-23-2008 01:45 PM

I haven't seen Hollywood glamorize drug usage, except weed which is only a threat to our culture when people are cranky because they don't have any.

Flint 05-23-2008 01:50 PM

In Hollywood, when people do hard drugs, they get ƒucked up, do stupid sh!t, and end up dead or in jail. The same exact thing that happens in drug PSAs.

So I guess the real question is: why are our tax dollars being used to glamorize drug use?

TheMercenary 05-23-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 456419)
So I guess the real question is: why are our tax dollars being used to glamorize drug use?

I guess I missed something. How are tax dollars being spent on the glamorization of drug use?

Flint 05-23-2008 02:31 PM

How is Hollywood glamorizing drug use? In Hollywood, and in PSAs, the subject is treated the same. Bad things happen when you use hard drugs. The movies are probably even worse.

TheMercenary 05-23-2008 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 456439)
How is Hollywood glamorizing drug use? In Hollywood, and in PSAs, the subject is treated the same. Bad things happen when you use hard drugs. The movies are probably even worse.

No, the question is, "How are our tax dollars being used to glamorize drug use?"

Flint 05-23-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
...PSAs...

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Originally Posted by Flint
...PSAs...


TheMercenary 05-23-2008 03:20 PM

Well according to their tax statements Federal money is a tiny fraction of their income.

http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/About/Financials/

So I take it that you think they are an ineffective organization?

Flint 05-23-2008 03:32 PM

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...Hollywood...glamorize(s) drug use...
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...Hollywood...do hard drugs...end up dead or in jail...
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...same exact thing that happens in drug PSAs...
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...tax dollars being used to glamorize drug use?...

glatt 05-23-2008 04:06 PM

Flint's bored.

Friday's almost over. Just hold on.

TheMercenary 05-23-2008 04:59 PM

I think he needs to get his drugs.


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