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DucksNuts 05-01-2008 06:07 PM

Men....srsly
 
You think women are complicated?? No no nononononnonno

Women will lay it out for you in ....idiot terms even. We dont want you to have to guess.

Men.....meh....complicated...make decisions FOR you and not let you in on it.

Young guys are easy to understand.

The old guys get, the weirder they get.

I.dont.get.it

regular.joe 05-01-2008 06:25 PM

We get wierder as we get older cause we've been hanging out with women that much longer.:rolleyes:

Seriously. I understand any non communication between partners, and, especially any dishonesty overt or covert is because of fear. You might see something in or about me that I don't want you to see....so, I'm dishonest in some way shape or form. Or I don't tell you what's going on.


Then I know men who say that only a pussy talks like that.

I only bring up stuff like that with friends. I do believe it is the real deal. You don't like what your getting from a guy, DX him quick. It's worth being alone for a while to respect yourself enough to not put up with bullshit.

SteveDallas 05-01-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts (Post 450294)
Women will lay it out for you in ....idiot terms even. We dont want you to have to guess.

In my experience, there are definitely women who want you to have to guess. Or, more accurately, want you to read their minds.

DucksNuts 05-01-2008 09:41 PM

Not me....but....Im just pissie at the moment

kerosene 05-02-2008 09:51 AM

Maybe men just secretly want to be women? Hmmm...or maybe not.

Men aren't that complicated in my experience. Usually I try to think of the most brutish reason for what they do and it is usually the correct answer.

lookout123 05-02-2008 10:48 AM

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Maybe men just secretly want to be women? Hmmm...or maybe not.
Not a bad theory really. do you have any idea how much more energy men have to expend just to get sex?

LabRat 05-02-2008 11:15 AM

Proabably less than we do having to fend you meatheads off!!

Coming up with creative excuses takes a lot of brain power, you know?

Cicero 05-02-2008 11:30 AM

Oooh. This conversation is giving me a headache. Not tonight, hon.
:D

Tink 05-02-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts (Post 450294)

Men.....meh....complicated...make decisions FOR you and not let you in on it.

Time and time again even though you've asked to be in on the decisions. Or....better still...they make a decision based on "can we talk about x-y-z" and even though you've asked to come back and talk about it later, they will still go ahead and proceed as if you agreed with them completely.

Tink 05-02-2008 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe (Post 450298)

Seriously. I understand any non communication between partners, and, especially any dishonesty overt or covert is because of fear. You might see something in or about me that I don't want you to see....so, I'm dishonest in some way shape or form. Or I don't tell you what's going on.

There should be no dishonesty to begin with. Trust me, I have lived with this for a long time and it only creates HUGE issues that will be turned around to be the womans fault, even though she was not the dishonest party. Trying to regain trust after habitual dishonesty is a very difficult thing to achieve and may never happen. Dishonesty is all about being insecure in your own self or, better still, absolute guilt in which the man is trying to justify his actions. Other people don't inflict dishonesty on you. Sorry, I completely have to disagree on this one. Experience talking.

classicman 05-02-2008 02:40 PM

This shit goes both ways - There are NO absolutes. I could write a friggin book about it. We are all individuals, and although there are tendencies based on race, religion gender... we are still individuals. Not all men "this" or all women "that". thats a bunch of shit - It has more to do with cultural and societal upbringing and familial examples, or lack thereof, than anything innate.

Gimme a friggin break.

classicman 05-02-2008 02:41 PM

Ohhh and honesty???? Please do not get me started!

Cicero 05-02-2008 02:49 PM

This guy asked me the other day if I thought I was being deceptive because I look great with make-up on and all done up, and like total crap when I don't.

My makeup is one of the first of many lies, lies, lies.....Apparently...Of course I don't think I'm trying to convince him of anything either way. Sometimes I'm not sure if my looks are any of his flipping business. Never made them his business and contrary to his belief, I wasn't looking to be attractive to him or unattractive to him in the first place.

Yes, complex and dull at times.

elSicomoro 05-02-2008 02:54 PM

I think my wife would say that I've gotten wiser as I've gotten older. That could just be me...but I think in general that people are willing to tolerate less bullshit as they get older. I look back at how I was 5 or 10 years ago and I'm like, "Jesus Christ, I was retarded!"

classicman 05-02-2008 03:16 PM

"yes Dear....." :)

elSicomoro 05-02-2008 03:46 PM

You know what, though? We only do the "yes dear" thing as a joke...I can't stand that whole complacency bullshit. If I humored my wife like that, she'd whup my ass. :)

Cicero 05-02-2008 03:53 PM

Clean the house...make them dinner...give them sex sometimes...

I fail to see the complexity. All arguements have ended after I have done one of those three things or a combination thereof..really..this is too easy...

There is also this rumour that they like to be respected more than loved. Try giving them some respect.

I tried that with my husband. He likes it. It isn't that I don't respect him for various things..he just loves to hear it.

Tink 05-02-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 450542)
This shit goes both ways - There are NO absolutes. I could write a friggin book about it. We are all individuals, and although there are tendencies based on race, religion gender... we are still individuals. Not all men "this" or all women "that". thats a bunch of shit - It has more to do with cultural and societal upbringing and familial examples, or lack thereof, than anything innate.

Gimme a friggin break.


Your book can't beat mine.:D It's a whopper! And I don't mean the burger.:dedhorse:

dar512 05-02-2008 04:31 PM

I was helping darlet #2 study for a bio test a couple of weeks ago. The topic was chromosomes and genes. Her study guide had a tidbit in it that I hadn't heard before. Males statistically have fewer genetic defects due to the smaller size of the Y chromosome. Less chance for error I guess.

Now darlet2 has already expounded on the unfairness of women having periods, babies leg shaving and so forth. So this was the perfect opportunity to give her a hard time and state that this was yet another way of nature showing the superiority of males.

darlet2's reponse was "Yeah right." And then in a stage whisper "Buncha colorblind freaks."

Perfect shot with perfect timing. I was so proud. *sniff*

BigV 05-02-2008 04:45 PM

darlet?

not darling?

dar512 05-02-2008 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 450601)
darlet?

not darling?

I dunno. I thought it sounded a little too darling. You know?

footfootfoot 05-02-2008 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by case (Post 450471)
Maybe men just secretly want to be women? Hmmm...or maybe not.

Men aren't that complicated in my experience. Usually I try to think of the most brutish reason for what they do and it is usually the correct answer.

Well, maybe now I should come out of the closet. Most of my friends "in the real world" already know anyway.

I am a lesbian. A lesbian trapped in the body of a man. A lesbian trapped in the body of a man who is attracted to straight women.

Don't hate me because I'm different.

Razzmatazz13 05-02-2008 08:39 PM

Triple foot....my boyfriend's always telling me that he has the EXACT SAME CONDITION!

Shocking, I know.

Cicero 05-02-2008 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 450633)
Well, maybe now I should come out of the closet. Most of my friends "in the real world" already know anyway.

I am a lesbian. A lesbian trapped in the body of a man. A lesbian trapped in the body of a man who is attracted to straight women.

Don't hate me because I'm different.

I know a couple of lesbians trapped in men's bodies. Maybe you should go out sometime.
:D

classicman 05-03-2008 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tink (Post 450593)
Your book can't beat mine.:D It's a whopper! And I don't mean the burger.:dedhorse:

lol ... If you only knew. I'll just keep that private part of my life, well, private. But suffice it to say that there are men out there that are as honest as the day is long and loyal to a fault. They have put up with just as much shit.

Aliantha 05-03-2008 05:13 AM

Some men are complicated and some are not. Same with women. Some people are complicated at different times of their lives too. It's not always easy to communicate with your partner, but if it's what you really want, then you can work it out.

Getting to know people is hard sometimes too. And keeping on knowing someone can be tricky also. People change over time...and sometimes they don't even know what they really want anyway, so I guess it's no wonder people seem complicated sometimes.

piercehawkeye45 05-05-2008 03:52 PM

The biggest thing that annoys me about women (this a generalization BTW) is passive aggressiveness. They get made about something and they won't tell you why.

TheMercenary 05-05-2008 04:12 PM

I find the older people get, male or female, they just become less flexible. I see this most among people who are single and in their 30's, 40's, 50's who are looking for a mate or a date. They are so inflexible in their likes and dislikes and what they will or will not put up with. Get a life. It is filled with give and takes in any relationship. Until we accept our mates for who they are with all their failings we will have communicative road blocks within those relationships. In the end you will still not get laid or get to walk on the beach with someone you really care about.

binky 05-05-2008 04:15 PM

Actually Pierce, in my case it's usually something petty I get mad about, and if my husband would just stfu for a half hour, instead of badgering me, I'd be fine.

xoxoxoBruce 05-05-2008 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 451139)
In the end you will still not get laid or get to walk on the beach with someone you really care about.

If you've got a few bucks, and a dog, you can have both... without the bullshit.

Sundae 05-05-2008 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 451139)
I find the older people get, male or female, they just become less flexible. I see this most among people who are single and in their 30's, 40's, 50's who are looking for a mate or a date. They are so inflexible in their likes and dislikes and what they will or will not put up with. Get a life.

I understand where you're coming from. But you try a month on the single scene (no disrespect to Mrs Merc). You'd soon put some damn guidelines in place!

I think my turn ons and turn offs are simple, but I acknowledge the main reason that I am single is because they are absolute for me. Intelligent, witty and able to stand up to me. And most of those men are already taken, for the same reason I find them attractive. Am hoping to catch them all as they divorce now ;)

binky 05-05-2008 06:55 PM

How predatory of you SG :rotflol:

Cicero 05-05-2008 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 451226)
And most of those mean are already taken, for the same reason I find them attractive. ;)

Oh did you mean to say one thing butt say something else?
:D

It does fit the context so I can't finger this out.

DucksNuts 05-05-2008 06:57 PM

I think I am just attracted to nutbags.

Like this *cough*armydude*cough*, we went out a couple of times and he was txting me like crazy. We were making plans to go away for the weekend when I came back from Sydney......then.....nothing. NOT A TXT.

I dont txt him for a few days, coz he might of gotten busy with life n shit....then I text him and he blows me off.

No reason, nothing.

Drives me fucking crazy.

Sundae 05-05-2008 07:13 PM

Cic - sorry, fixed my post before I saw yours, wasn't anything sneaky.

Ducks - I know many women with the same story. All I can assume is cold feet or friends who express concerns. Two things which are regularly ascribed to women, but count double with men due to communication problems.

Oh and btw - no I didn't get laid on Saturday night, although I could have. Many times over.
The plus point was that I felt like I was 19 again - turning heads, being approached, not being approached but eyed up by men who decided I was out of their league, being able to talk to any man there, secure in the knowledge I was "on top".
The downside - being pawed, the fact it was a meat market, being bothered on the dance floor, having men who wanted sex chatting me up while the (presumably decent) men were intimidated into corners.

Will have a good think before going next month. It would be a shame to give up the feeling I had wearing my corset and heels. I felt 7 foot tall.


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