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xoxoxoBruce 04-02-2008 12:18 AM

Passports
 
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The United States has outsourced the manufacturing of its electronic passports to overseas companies — including one in Thailand that was victimized by Chinese espionage — raising concerns that cost savings are being put ahead of national security, an investigation by The Washington Times has found.

The Government Printing Office's decision to export the work has proved lucrative, allowing the agency to book more than $100 million in recent profits by charging the State Department more money for blank passports than it actually costs to make them, according to interviews with federal officials and documents obtained by The Times.
Much more.
I'm glad these new electronic passports will protect us from bad guys. :rolleyes:

elSicomoro 04-02-2008 12:24 AM

Wow...the Washington Times writing something bad about Republicans...impressive!

TheMercenary 04-02-2008 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 443131)
Wow...the Washington Times writing something bad about Republicans...impressive!

Now if we could just get the NYT to follow suit for the Dems we might be on to something.

glatt 04-02-2008 07:34 AM

FYI, I recently renewed my passport and the kids' passports and was amazed at how fast it was. Two weeks for mine (done by mail) and one week turnaround for the kids (done in person at the Post Office.) We didn't pay extra for expedited service.

Now I just need to read up a little on rfid shielding, as these passports have the new personal data radio transmitters in them.

elSicomoro 04-02-2008 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 443157)
Now if we could just get the NYT to follow suit for the Dems we might be on to something.

You've forgotten about Client 9 already? Damn Merc, you're getting old and forgetful. :)

TheMercenary 04-02-2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 443263)
You've forgotten about Client 9 already? Damn Merc, you're getting old and forgetful. :)

:D

Cloud 10-17-2008 07:27 PM

Wow. Got my passport today; 15 days after I applied, and it wasn't even "expedited." And they said 4-8 weeks.

Now all I have to do is go somewhere!

regular.joe 10-17-2008 11:25 PM

Next time I deploy, I'll put in my duffel Cloud.

Cloud 10-17-2008 11:51 PM

nice thought . . . but don't think I'd fit!

footfootfoot 10-18-2008 09:21 AM

You can't make shit like this up.

richlevy 10-18-2008 09:58 AM

It's interesting that they say they couldn't find anyone to manufacture these in the US. This would have been a good opportunity to actually rebuild some internal manufacturing of secure components.

BTW, a lot of military hardware now has chips from China in them. This is mostly due to the Clinger-Cohen Act, which intended to make military procurement more efficient and cheaper. It was passed during the Clinton Administration.








BTW, before anyone get off on a 'fucking Clinton/Democrat' rant, it should be pointed out that Clinger and Cohen were both Republicans.

Cicero 10-18-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 443166)
FYI, I recently renewed my passport and the kids' passports and was amazed at how fast it was. Two weeks for mine (done by mail) and one week turnaround for the kids (done in person at the Post Office.) We didn't pay extra for expedited service.

Now I just need to read up a little on rfid shielding, as these passports have the new personal data radio transmitters in them.

I would just throw the passport in the microwave for about 10 seconds.:D Best served hot. That's just me though. I don't think they are necessary.(rfid's that is)

Cloud 10-18-2008 02:06 PM

I need one to go to the dentist. :)

Cicero 10-18-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 495105)
I need one to go to the dentist. :)

How much are boob jobs anyway? You know, just in case..

Cloud 10-18-2008 03:15 PM

you want me to ask my dentist?

"Cuantos son los . . . boobjobos?"

Cicero 10-18-2008 03:19 PM

Si. Ayude por Senora Cicero.

Cloud 10-18-2008 03:20 PM

maybe I can get a discount for you with a root canal

regular.joe 10-18-2008 05:16 PM

The next time an American is kidnapped and held for a few dollars ransom, that RFD might come in handy.

Cloud 10-18-2008 05:44 PM

wait! there's a tracker thingy in mine?

that's creepy.

Perry Winkle 10-18-2008 06:23 PM

RFID is fairly short range. Up to 100 meters, but more often (for passport type applications) around 30 cm.

footfootfoot 10-18-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe (Post 495161)
The next time an American is kidnapped and held for a few dollars ransom, that RFD might come in handy.

Only if the kidnappers don't have access to a microwave.

TheMercenary 10-19-2008 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 495126)
How much are boob jobs anyway? You know, just in case..

4k to 6k, depending on how well you know the surgeon. :D

TheMercenary 10-19-2008 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Perry Winkle (Post 495190)
RFID is fairly short range. Up to 100 meters, but more often (for passport type applications) around 30 cm.

You beat me to it. But RFID's as proposed in packages for Walmart are like 4 - 6 feet I believe.

Cicero 10-19-2008 08:49 PM

Radio frequencies....Radio....Oh hai...:) Whatever!! ;)

tw 10-19-2008 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 495096)
I don't think they are necessary.(rfid's that is)

Returns to the same question asked here long ago. Will a National ID system serve you or serve the government? Because the public has not demanded a National ID system that serves the individual and since our right wing extremists in power fear everyone (and believe the president needs more power), then this passport RFID is to serve government.

You may not think it necessary. Does not matter. Government has now decided all Americans must be categorized and accounted for. Will this do anything to help you protect your identity? Of course not. Government has done so little for Identity protection. But government so fears even its citizens as to need routine wiretapping without judicial review.

How to make it easier to track you? More RF power with more and bigger antennas. Then government will know where you go, when you were there, and who you were with. Whistleblowers and muckrakers - people who are so praised for bringing down the most corrupt and powerful - especially have so much to fear.

Cicero 10-19-2008 09:12 PM

I was being polite. kthnx.

xoxoxoBruce 10-19-2008 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 495451)
How to make it easier to track you? More RF power with more and bigger antennas. Then government will know where you go, when you were there, and who you were with. Whistleblowers and muckrakers - people who are so praised for bringing down the most corrupt and powerful - especially have so much to fear.

E-ZPass.

classicman 10-19-2008 11:52 PM

:tinfoil:

TheMercenary 10-22-2008 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 495451)
How to make it easier to track you? More RF power with more and bigger antennas. Then government will know where you go, when you were there, and who you were with. Whistleblowers and muckrakers - people who are so praised for bringing down the most corrupt and powerful - especially have so much to fear.

http://cr4.globalspec.com/PostImages...99A20B06C8.jpg


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