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aimeecc 02-07-2008 12:15 PM

Romney Quits Presidential Race
 
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...rssnyt&emc=rss

Romney quit. Guess its McCain for the Republicans.

aimeecc 02-07-2008 12:23 PM

This actually helps Obama. In open primary states like Virginia, you choose what party when you show up. So now the moderate republicans and independents will vote in the democratic party primary, and they will most likely vote for Obama.

Torrere 02-07-2008 12:34 PM

Wasn't Romney drawing from the 'true conservative' vote?

Are you saying the independents / moderates who would have voted for McCain will now consider that race to be in the bag and vote for Obama instead?

grassy 02-07-2008 12:35 PM

Hey i just heard that
 
Hey, i'm cindy. i just heard that he quit. I think your right.With Mccaine for the republicans, it should be a shoe in for the democrats. Mcc:D ain bores me to tears. I kinda like Obama, but i think Hilary is probably going to be the next president.cindy

aimeecc 02-07-2008 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Torrere (Post 430606)
Wasn't Romney drawing from the 'true conservative' vote?

Are you saying the independents / moderates who would have voted for McCain will now consider that race to be in the bag and vote for Obama instead?

Exactly. No need to vote for McCain, so pick up the democratic ballot instead and vote for Obama.

aimeecc 02-07-2008 12:42 PM

I'm thinking I should have put this in Politics, not Current Events.

Shawnee123 02-07-2008 01:17 PM

What if no one in the country votes for McCain, then?

lumberjim 02-07-2008 01:20 PM

HUCKABEE?

aimeecc 02-07-2008 01:22 PM

I'm sure enough Republicans will still vote for McCain. Most states have closed primaries, so Republicans can only vote in Republican primaries. Its only in states like Virginia, the 'Come All' primaries in which you decide when you show up which primary you'll vote in.

aimeecc 02-07-2008 01:25 PM

In theory, Romney could give his delegates to Huckabee, closing the gap between him and McCain.

Bay Buchanen, Romney's henchwoman, has repeatedly called Huckabee McCains "nasty little sidekick", claiming he has a deal with McCain to be VP, he just had to stay in the race and draw votes away from Romney. lol I saw her say this on SuperTuesday. Man, she's a vicious woman. I have no idea why Romney would pick her as a spokeswoman.

grassy 02-07-2008 01:33 PM

Huckabee?
 
He doesnt really bother me. He's pleasant enough. What we do need is someone with a BRAIN! I dont care who it is ,as long as they have a brain. cindy

Griff 02-07-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 430619)
HUCKABEE?

Paul?

We can at least be sure PA won't have a say in the outcome.

tw 02-07-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aimeecc (Post 430610)
I'm thinking I should have put this in Politics, not Current Events.

It's after Super Bowl. Events currently happening are no longer irrelevant political speculation. Those so many leading candidates are gone. Real contenders have finally risen to the top.

tw 02-07-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by aimeecc (Post 430622)
Man, she's a vicious woman. I have no idea why Romney would pick her as a spokeswoman.

Robert Kennedy was also a vicious man. Being vicious is not necessary bad. Directing that force defines the man.

Bay is not a spokesman. She is a political analysis - the people who define and execute political strategy. To get poltical correct answers, campaigns employee spokesman to spin facts. An interview with Bay would be insightful because it defines what is really intended and targeted by the candidate without the propaganda spin. Irrelevant is her viciousness. Only important are the strategies and objectives (and whether she is really being honest).

deadbeater 02-07-2008 09:34 PM

I still wonder why conservatives ain't fawning over Huckabee over the track-switching Romney.

deadbeater 02-09-2008 05:31 PM

My mistake, I guess they are now fawning over the Huck. Although the Rep race is all but over, nobody told the voters, especially the conservative ones.

It would be an interesting race between The Huckabuck and The Obama. Enough of the stale names.

aimeecc 02-11-2008 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 430737)
Bay is not a spokesman. She is a political analysis - the people who define and execute political strategy. To get poltical correct answers, campaigns employee spokesman to spin facts. An interview with Bay would be insightful because it defines what is really intended and targeted by the candidate without the propaganda spin. Irrelevant is her viciousness. Only important are the strategies and objectives (and whether she is really being honest).

Calling Huckabee McCains "vicious/ambitious little sidekick" is not much of a political analyst. And its ripe with spin.

classicman 02-11-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 430737)
Only important are the strategies and objectives (and whether she is really being honest).

I know you weren't referring to Patti Solis Doyle, but the same holds true and it cost her, her job.

After losing all of the weekend's caucuses and primaries, Hillary Rodham Clinton announces that a longtime trusted aide will take the place of Patti Solis Doyle in running her campaign.

TheMercenary 02-12-2008 09:08 AM

A long time trusted aide, heh.

Urbane Guerrilla 02-17-2008 10:52 PM

I thought Romney's concession speech one of the most statesmanlike I've heard in this election yet. The Republicans seem to have a lock on the classy behavior so far. The Democrats, not so well.

The current issue of American Spectator analyzes Hillary Clinton's cattle-futures trading coups way back when down to a gnat's-pubic-hair resolution, and connects the dots for probable cause for a corruption indictment. Thorough, and some impressive investigative journalism.

tw 02-18-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 431704)
I know you weren't referring to Patti Solis Doyle, but the same holds true and it cost her, her job.

From The Economist of 16 Feb 2008:
Quote:

The Billary Campaign is in turmoil. ... But it also reflects a troubled organization. Mrs Clinton's campaign has been riven by faction-fights between the "white boys" who are close to her husband and "the Hillary girls" who are close to her. It has also been hobbled by the reluctance of her advisers to bring the boss bad news. Mrs Solis Doyle's departure was reportedly precipitated by her failure to tell Mrs Clinton that her campaign was running out of money. Mrs Clinton, it seems, had to lend the campaign $5m of her own cash. ...
Mr Obama has run a steadier campaign. He has consistently out-organized and out planned his rival.
The reason I find readers of the Daily News (tabloids) with so little grasp of current events: they fail to read and grasp significance in details. No details, for example, are why so many believed Saddam had WMDs. Details are massively significant.
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On Saturday February 9th an overflowing crowd of Virginians got a chance to see the Democratic presidential candidates giving duelling speeches at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner in Richmond. More interesting than anything the candidates said, however, was the detritus afterwards. The crowds stripped the place clean of Obama signs, tearing every last one off the walls. Hillary signs were abandoned on chairs and trampled under foot.

classicman 02-19-2008 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 433196)
From The Economist of 16 Feb 2008: Mrs Solis Doyle's departure was reportedly precipitated by her failure to tell Mrs Clinton that her campaign was running out of money. Mrs Clinton, it seems, had to lend the campaign $5m of her own cash. ...

BS that Hillary didn't know she was running outta money. A total control freak like her knows where every friggin penny is/was/went. Thats just convenient spin. IMO

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The crowds stripped the place clean of Obama signs, tearing every last one off the walls. Hillary signs were abandoned on chairs and trampled under foot.
Thats VERY interesting - I wonder why? hmmmmm

xoxoxoBruce 02-19-2008 10:37 AM

Obama supporters are thieves and vandals? ;)


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