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Aretha's doctor 01-10-2008 06:52 AM

Female dentists
 
I’ve just now come from an accute, emergency visit to the dentist. It was a root canal job. Ouch!

I went to the dentist last Thursday (in an emergency). He nearly killed me with pain (despite the injectioin) and when he was finished – no good! So I returned to him again the following day (Friday) moaning in pain, for another emergency. It was another bout of leg-flaying pain, and in the end – no good! I’ve been in the most excruciating pain for a whole week now and the only thing keeping me from jumping off my balcony has been 2 Alvedon and 1 Ipren every 3½ hours plus 4 Tikacillin each day. That’s a lot of tablets to take, for me.

So this morning I decided to bypass the doctor from last week and go to the school for dentisty, emergency services. It was a woman this time. She was gentle. I felt merely a slight prick of the needle and that was all I felt until she released me from the dentist chair 1½ hours later. I think I feel OK now. She not only repaired my tooth but she did it without any pain.

Is it just my opinion or do women just naturally make better dentists?

glatt 01-10-2008 07:33 AM

Sounds like you did an exhaustive study on the matter by looking at so many dentists, so I'd say it's a good rule of thumb you have come up with. :rolleyes:

Aretha's doctor 01-10-2008 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 423118)
Sounds like you did an exhaustive study on the matter by looking at so many dentists, so I'd say it's a good rule of thumb you have come up with. :rolleyes:

Well ..... I've been around the block more than twice but I didn't think it was necesssary to talk about ALL the dentists I've been to in my life-time. You don't really want me to list them all, do you? I'm sure you'd fall asleep before I reach the half-way point.

regular.joe 01-10-2008 07:49 AM

I hope this next statement does not open me up for too much trouble.

Perhaps women are naturally more nurturing then men.

Aretha's doctor 01-10-2008 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe (Post 423124)
Perhaps women are naturally more nurturing then men. I hope this ..... statement does not open me up for too much trouble.

If it does, then we're in the same stew!

xoxoxoBruce 01-10-2008 08:25 AM

Maybe it justs reflects on your health care system.

Aretha's doctor 01-10-2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 423143)
Maybe it justs reflects on your health care system.

That we encourage women students of dentistry to be more competent and humane than what we encourage our male students to be? With that sort of suggestion I think you'll be needing this .... :bogroll:

Razzmatazz13 01-10-2008 09:05 AM

I went to the orthodontist from grade 1 to grade 10...The office consisted of about 10 - 12 less experienced female orthodontists and one male (the owner of the place) the girls were always gentle with their work, as was the doctor. Nothing I had done there required any cutting though, just jabbing me with pointy things and such.

lookout123 01-10-2008 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Aretha's doctor (Post 423150)
That we encourage women students of dentistry to be more competent and humane than what we encourage our male students to be? With that sort of suggestion I think you'll be needing this .... :bogroll:

Or maybe the suggestion was that there is little reward for competence and thoughtful care after one gets a job in your system. If that female dentist is really good it would be interesting to see how long she is working in your system post-graduation before she decides to ply her trade outside of your system.

Sheldonrs 01-10-2008 10:45 AM

I prefer to have my cavities filled by a man. lol!!!

Clodfobble 01-10-2008 10:53 AM

I've never met a female dentist in my life. A good friend of the family who happens to be a dentist has told me that it's because even the ones who are interested often get turned off during training by how much actual arm strength is required. Apparently it takes some pretty strong wrists and forearms to pull out those really stubborn teeth (and it's true, my dentist is a skinny little guy with Popeye forearms.)

lookout123 01-10-2008 11:05 AM

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my dentist is a skinny little guy with Popeye forearms.
Hopefully that isn't due to his activities while his patients are under anastesia

ZenGum 01-10-2008 11:17 AM

Any chance of your dentist doing this?
(kind of NSFW - text only news report, but ...).

SteveDallas 01-10-2008 11:19 AM

Look, it's quite simple. Don't go to Steve Martin.
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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 423195)
A good friend of the family who happens to be a dentist has told me that it's because even the ones who are interested often get turned off during training by how much actual arm strength is required.

I recently had a crown put in by my female dentist and her female assistant. They manhandled the tooth quite thoroughly.

xoxoxoBruce 01-10-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Aretha's doctor (Post 423150)
That we encourage women students of dentistry to be more competent and humane than what we encourage our male students to be? With that sort of suggestion I think you'll be needing this .... :bogroll:

You really can't be that stupid, can you?
If you've experienced that many bad dentists, there's something wrong with your system that trains them.... or you're just a chronic complainer.

But seeing how you live in socialist utopia, it must be you.

monster 01-10-2008 05:38 PM

I generally find female medical professionals more empathetic and less condescending. But I've some across the occasional decent bloke and the occasional awful woman. The awful women are usually older with a distinct air of spinster about them and zero bedside manner, the OK blokes are of varied age and complaint, but are never recently qualified. The noob male doctors are so convinced they are gods they are appalling. Dentists are the worst and i suspect that's because you literally can't comment on your poor treatment at the exact moment you are receiving it.

Aliantha 01-10-2008 06:07 PM

The last trip I had to the dentist was with a woman. She was very gentle and did a pretty good job from what I can tell. Previous to that, I'd only been to male dentists, and the time lapse between my most recent visit and the one prior to that was about 10yrs. The reason for the time lapse was because I really really loathed and feared going to the dentist because it had always been such a painful and confronting experience.

Thanks to this new dentist, I wont be leaving it so long because it was relatively pain free and she and her nurse were friendly and light hearted which is a trait I find particularly attractive in someone who I think is about to cause me great pain. Hmmmm...very interesting statement that one.

Anyway, I don't know if it was because she is a woman, or if it's just she had a different manner and style than other dentists, but she's given me the courage to entertain the idea of going back to the dentist for a checkup in another 6 months or so.

Aliantha 01-10-2008 06:11 PM

For those of you being arseholes to AD, I think you're being stupid. She was quite clearly asking for other opinions after having had a new experience. It definitely sounds like the first dentist did a bad job, but FFS, there are bad dentists and doctors and representatives of every other profession everywhere in the world.

You people are so quick to pass judgement on others, but some of you never seem look at yourselves very closely.

lookout123 01-10-2008 07:50 PM

i look at myself all the time. in fact, it is hard to look away from such perfection i see in the mirror everyday. I am American, afterall.

Aliantha 01-10-2008 07:54 PM

ahuh...and we all know that everyone and everything in and about america is perfect. :)

piercehawkeye45 01-10-2008 09:39 PM

Yup, just ask duck_duck or whatever her name was.

xoxoxoBruce 01-10-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 423333)
For those of you being arseholes to AD, I think you're being stupid.

I sure you take umbrage at the treatment of your anti-American hero. But if Urethra didn't answer serious replies, with snotty, condescending remarks, maybe she wouldn't be treated with the same.

Aliantha 01-10-2008 10:39 PM

Bruce, you did the same thing to me when I first joined this site and you continue to do it with your snide remarks. I only take umbrage over the fact that you should not be treating people this way. I wouldn't care if she was trying to argue that that the snow only falls at night. She still shouldn't have to put up with the sort of shit you like to dish out to people you just decide you don't like, and nor should I or anyone else.

You're an arsehole. Plain and simple.

Undertoad 01-10-2008 10:43 PM

AD is a bigot, and Bruce was applying his understanding of that bigotry in this thread.

HungLikeJesus 01-11-2008 12:18 AM

My dentist is a woman, as are all of the hygenists in her office. Every instrument they use came straight out of Toolbox Murders.

lookout123 01-11-2008 12:24 AM

Obviously my earlier comment about my perfection was meant to be humorous. I had a pimple once. I think I was twelve.

But seriously, AD walked into the cellar and behaved like a twat. he/she'll get no sympathy or courtesy from me. Most folks who want to contribute to the cellar try not to piss all over it as a way of introducing themselves.

Aretha's doctor 01-11-2008 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Razzmatazz13 (Post 423156)
Nothing I had done there required any cutting though, just jabbing me with pointy things and such.

I enjoyed that! :D :D :D

Aretha's doctor 01-11-2008 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 423326)
I generally find female medical professionals more empathetic and less condescending. But ................

Yeah, I must confess. I had a female dentist in Berlin who was "this close" to putting her fist into my face because I flinched once! She then told me that she didn't want me as her patience any longer. It's true!

Aretha's doctor 01-11-2008 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 423332)
...I don't know if it was because she is a woman, or if it's just she had a different manner and style than other dentists, but she's given me the courage to entertain the idea of going back .....

It is exactly how I feel about it.

Aretha's doctor 01-11-2008 04:09 AM

Let's see now ..... ”stupid” ..... ”bigot” ..... ”twat” ..... ”anti-American hero” .... all on this thread alone. That's pretty good! The expression ”anti-American hero” is pretty clever. I think I like it. But the other ones are much too childish and tedious. You guys can carry on with such poppycock, and those involved can clan together and have a good snigger. That's great - and it's fine with me. But please, guys, Be courteous enough to say HE is a ”whatever”. I'm a man, you see. Okay?

I guess I was over-optimistic to assume that everyone knew the great hits by Aretha Franklin. "Dont' send me no doctor, filling me up with all them pills - I got a man called Dr. Feelgood! Ohhhh!"

ZenGum 01-11-2008 07:19 AM

Hehehe, Hello Mr A.D.!

I had kind of presumed you were female too, probably just being influenced by other people's presumption.

I was wrong abut bbro too, I thought she was a he, 'cause of the bro/brother thing I guess.

And for quite a while I thought Radar was female, be damned if I can explain why, and now that I've seen more of him I find it quite amazing that I ever thought that.

It is one of the shortcomings of cellar profiles that they don't have a place to put, if not your gender, at least which pronoun we should use. I've found myself wondering about a few vague names.

Is it ever polite to ask?

Undertoad 01-11-2008 07:38 AM

OK. You, Mr. A.D., are a bigot, from what I have seen. Carry on.

Aretha's doctor 01-11-2008 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 423464)
It is one of the shortcomings of cellar profiles that they don't have a place to put, if not your gender, at least which pronoun we should use.

Personally, I think it would be as useless as our nationalities. Although if it were a friendly forum it would be rather nice: both gender and nationality, that is.

"Is it polite to ask"? Sure it is - on the personal messages.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 423466)
OK. You, Mr. A.D., are a bigot, from what I have seen.

Sorry, but do you know the definition of that word - "bigot"?

Anyway, your use of "Mr." is appreciated. If I keep at it I might get you to "roll over" and maybe even fetch my morning newspaper. :whip:

Undertoad 01-11-2008 08:51 AM

Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Aretha's doctor 01-11-2008 08:53 AM

Fetch, Toad! - Fetch! :whip:

Undertoad 01-11-2008 08:55 AM

I can use it in a sentence if you like.

monster 01-11-2008 09:04 AM

After I came in from sledding, my mom made me a bigot cup o' cocoa

xoxoxoBruce 01-11-2008 09:10 AM

With marshmallows?

TheMercenary 01-11-2008 09:10 AM

http://ericboggs.files.wordpress.com...03/bumble1.jpg

DanaC 01-11-2008 09:18 AM

lol wtf is that merc?

monster 01-11-2008 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 423531)
lol wtf is that merc?

it is merc.

(all chest and nothing down below)

ZenGum 01-11-2008 09:22 AM

And is it a he or a she?

TheMercenary 01-11-2008 09:23 AM

It is Bumbles from an old animated x-mas story that ran here in the US:

The reindeer made his television debut on NBC in 1964, when Rankin/Bass produced a stop motion animated TV special of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer that became a popular hit in itself. This version was re-broadcast annually many times over the years, even after it was finally released on video and then DVD. It now airs several times during the Christmas season (on CBS rather than NBC), making it the longest-running TV special in terms of consecutive years.

In the end the elf just wanted to be a dentist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumbles

TheMercenary 01-11-2008 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 423535)
it is merc.

(all chest and nothing down below)

Hey now, you can't see it! It is cold and hidden by the hair. :D

Aretha's doctor 01-13-2008 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 423515)
I can use it in a sentence if you like.

I'd like to do it myself but i just don't know how.

richlevy 01-13-2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 423535)
it is merc.

(all chest and nothing down below)

That's not fair and accurate reporting. I'm not sure how much he has above his chest either.:p


Anyway, my dentist's sister just joined him in his practice, so either one can be my dentist on any visit. Also, my recent endodontist was a woman. I'm not based on my experience that the sister's approach was any different from her brother's.

I will say that I found out on my most recent visist that she decided to install a massage/heat pad on the dentist chair. That and their Keurig pod coffee maker with Southern Pecan coffee were the only high points to my day which included getting a filling and working late.

Undertoad 01-13-2008 11:24 AM

Use it in a sentence: "Aretha's doctor was such a bigot, he was banned before reaching 100 posts."

classicman 01-13-2008 11:28 AM

I like that sentence UT.

lookout123 01-13-2008 10:33 PM

Now that IS a sentence fitting the annoyance.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-14-2008 01:05 AM

:corn:, munching w/interest

Aretha's doctor 01-14-2008 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 423518)
After I came in from sledding, my mom made me a bigot cup o' cocoa

Oh God! :D :D :D


John was a big man. So was his brother Tom. But Joe was the bigot of them all!


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