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rkzenrage 11-27-2007 03:41 PM

Short of Funds, G.O.P. Recruits the Rich to Run
 
Short of Funds, G.O.P. Recruits the Rich to Run

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WASHINGTON, Nov. 25 — Confronting an enormous fund-raising gap with Democrats, Republican Party officials are aggressively recruiting wealthy candidates who can spend large sums of their own money to finance their Congressional races, party officials say.
Good, they should be spending their own money. If you are not seriously rich voting Rep. is voting against your interests these days. They should be pulling from their own to show what they really are.

lookout123 11-27-2007 04:23 PM

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so i was thinking of getting a dog. puppies are so cute and i love having them around the house. I'm not sure what kind to get though. I've always had bigger dogs, but I'm thinking that a smaller to medium size dog might be fun this time around. I was thinking about maybe a Puggle.

Does anyone have personal experience with puggles?

rkzenrage 11-27-2007 04:29 PM

^ Stalk.

lookout123 11-27-2007 04:32 PM

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not stalk. puppy. pretty clearly different.

rkzenrage 11-27-2007 04:35 PM

Stalk/threadjack.

classicman 11-27-2007 04:35 PM

I like golden retrievers myself, but I think they're in the large category. A labradoodle (sp) is a nice mix too. Still a bit large tho. Sorry I couldn't help more.

rkzenrage 11-27-2007 04:36 PM

Class now shows his true colors, just another useless stalker who will follow from thread to thread harassing and jacking/derailing threads with no real contribution to the board.

lookout123 11-27-2007 04:38 PM

i'm thinking anything that ends in "oodle" is out. i do have some pride.

rkzenrage 11-27-2007 04:42 PM

Ok, if that is what you want the thread to be, since you don't know how to start your own and have to jack a legitimate thread.
BTW, you both tipped your hat with this and showed that you are both true stalkers and all the complaints about me calling you that were unfounded.

http://wzus.ask.com/r?t=a&d=us&s=a&c...2Fdead_dog.jpg

lookout123 11-27-2007 04:44 PM

i'm not sure about that one. he doesn't look aggressive, but i think i like them a bit fluffier.

Undertoad 11-27-2007 04:48 PM

When you get a "mixed breed" sort of dog, you really don't know what you're getting. Pugs are quiet, beagles are loud. Pugs are lazy, beagles like exercise. Both have health problems specific to the breed. The best way to go is to find a reputable breeder of the breed you like, and buy a puppy from them.

The price of a pet-quality puppy from a breeder is sometimes similar to that of stores, sometimes higher - depending on breed. But in a store, you don't know if the puppy is coming from a puppy mill. Breeders are trying to improve their breed by producing a strong "model" of what the dog should be: built correctly, with good temperament, and genetics to allow the good traits to continue. Puppy mills just turn out as many dogs as possible with no concern for whether they are producing good dogs.

Stalkers are typically only concerned with one specific model and/or type, with no concern for the genetics to follow. They are more interested in the here and now.

lookout123 11-27-2007 04:50 PM

You have pugs, right?

Bullitt 11-27-2007 04:50 PM

I've always been partial to Siberian Huskies. We never ended up getting that dog for our apartment, which is probably for the best in the end since we're only going to be living here till next august.

Undertoad 11-27-2007 04:53 PM

I have a Boston Terrier. Used to have two. I love the breed, but J is angling for a different one next time. Maybe French Bulldog, which are similar.

B, a Husky in an apartment? Surely not a small apartment...

lookout123 11-27-2007 04:53 PM

having a husky out here would be pretty cruel. but they are beautiful. My two favorite dogs are both gone now. one was pit bull/lab mix. sweetest most gentle guy you'd ever meet. unless you a male tried walking into our house while the wife was home. he'd drop you. but if you let him out first and then the guests came in, he'd be their best friend.

his sister (they had identical markings even though they didn't share a common breed) was a german shepherd/rottweiler mix. a little high strung princess, but a lover. miss those guys.

rkzenrage 11-27-2007 04:58 PM

I think the morons here are going to win.
Since this board cannot actually discuss a real topic that is not of a religious nature, since you can't bring yourselves to actually discuss that objectively. There is no reason for me to stay.
There was a time when one could post a topic and actually discuss it with intelligent people regardless of their stance on the topic, including UT.
Seems the sun has set on that day.
I suggest you remove the politics and current events section, no reason for them.

lookout123 11-27-2007 05:02 PM

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i'm sorry, your rant must be presented in the form of a puppy. like this one.

Bullitt 11-27-2007 05:05 PM

Oh no I'm not going to get a dog while I'm living here in this apartment. Once I've graduated and got my own place then I'll look into it. The Husky is just my ideal future dog.

Griff 11-27-2007 06:44 PM

I can't say enough good about our Aussie or enough bad about our beaglador deceiver.

monster 11-27-2007 07:05 PM

you wouldn't rather have these?

http://www.smiffy.com/jokes/images3/bodyart01.jpg

deadbeater 11-27-2007 07:14 PM

rkz, the point is that the rich can finance their own campaign if they want. We even had rich liberals (Mike Bloomberg) running for office. We in the US ain't sweating because of that.

Bullitt 11-27-2007 07:23 PM

Hey hey hey stay on topic deadbeater.

Clodfobble 11-27-2007 09:43 PM

Let me just say right now: I am not a dog person. I am not a mammal person. I grew up with both dogs and cats, and my overall impression was that both were smelly beasts who shed hair on everything and occasionally tore up the furniture and ruined the carpet.

That said, I actually considered--for the briefest of moments--the possibility of a dog this afternoon. Minifob just freaking loves them, goes nuts whenever we see one at the playground. And of course being family dogs, they're always so gentle and nice and he gets to get right up and play with them... All boys are supposed to have a dog, right? But I know I would regret it, I know I would. At the very least, not until he's old enough to really care for it. I will never, ever, ever scoop another pile of poop out of the backyard. No way no how.

ZenGum 11-27-2007 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 411093)
But I know I would regret it, I know I would. At the very least, not until he's old enough to really care for it.

Say, 35?

Some mistakes I have seen Japanese people make with dogs:
* naming your chocolate poodle "Chocopoo".
* attaching the leash of your Siberian husky to the wrist of your five year old daughter.
* buying a Loius Vuitton mini-backpack ... for your dog

Also, by word of mouth, it seems a bad idea to keep a pet kangaroo inside the house, especially if you have paper walls.

Undertoad 11-27-2007 11:04 PM

Get a small dog, that way the poos can mostly degrade on their own.

Aliantha 11-27-2007 11:29 PM

We had a pet joey for a short while when I was kid. I loved it. It used to hop around the house after me and we'd go crazy.

Dad got sick of mum bitching at him and took it to a wildlife release group who get animals ready to go back out in the...well, wild.

glatt 11-28-2007 08:42 AM

I like playing with other people's dogs, and then going home to a house with no pets. My neighbor growing up had a golden retriever. That was a fun dog. You could throw tennis balls all day long and it would go get them for you. Kinda dumb though.

My wife had a cat when I met her. The cat was part of the deal when I married her. It was a decent cat, as cats go, but after she died (the cat) we never got another one. I'm really pleased to have a fur free house now. Wen to my MIL's for Thanksgiving, and she has a cat. Fur on everything. Not a lot, but enough to notice. Yuck.

lookout123 11-28-2007 09:36 AM

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Kinda dumb though.
and the whole day the dog is thinking "i hate chasing this damn ball, but the two legger seems to enjoy it. kinda dumb, but he gives me food."

BigV 11-28-2007 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 410953)
Ok, if that is what you want the thread to be, since you don't know how to start your own and have to jack a legitimate thread.
BTW, you both tipped your hat with this and showed that you are both true stalkers and all the complaints about me calling you that were unfounded.

http://wzus.ask.com/r?t=a&d=us&s=a&c...2Fdead_dog.jpg

You meant to say tipped your hands. You're welcome. :tips cap:

Shawnee123 11-28-2007 10:59 AM

My brother's golden, Zeke, who passed last summer, was actually the smartest dog I've ever known. The guy could speak human, imo.

They just got a new golden pup and I don't think they're having as much luck in the brains dept, but boy is he a sweetheart. Great with the kids.

BigV 11-28-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 411093)
Let me just say right now: I am not a dog person. I am not a mammal person. I grew up with both dogs and cats, and my overall impression was that both were smelly beasts who shed hair on everything and occasionally tore up the furniture and ruined the carpet.

That said, I actually considered--for the briefest of moments--the possibility of a dog this afternoon. Minifob just freaking loves them, goes nuts whenever we see one at the playground. And of course being family dogs, they're always so gentle and nice and he gets to get right up and play with them... All boys are supposed to have a dog, right? But I know I would regret it, I know I would. At the very least, not until he's old enough to really care for it. I will never, ever, ever scoop another pile of poop out of the backyard. No way no how.

Let me just say this right now: I am a dog person.

Yes. All boys should have a dog. Right.

And do not let your love for your son and your urge to do the right thing blind you to the fact that all dogs come with poop. You will be picking it up. No escaping that one. Sorry. It can be ... deferred (not recommended), but not avoided.

But daily doodie duty is a small price to pay for the reward of seeing a boy and his dog.

Clodfobble 11-28-2007 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV
You will be picking it up. No escaping that one. Sorry.

Oh no, I assure you I would not. That is what the dog's owner and his father would be for. Worst case scenario, I hear that if they don't eat they stop pooping very soon.

Shawnee123 11-28-2007 11:20 AM

Reminds me of an old old Letterman stand-up thing. Talking about Cycle Dog foods, and the like. He said something about dog food for constipated dogs and he said he figured "if my dog is constipated why mess with a good thing?" He also talked about dog food "without a speck of cereal." He said "my dogs roots through garbage and drinks out of the toilet. I don't think he's going to mind a speck of cereal."

queequeger 11-28-2007 12:25 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!!!!!

:lol: :lol:

Sundae 11-28-2007 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 411093)
Let me just say right now: I am not a dog person. I am not a mammal person. I grew up with both dogs and cats, and my overall impression was that both were smelly beasts who shed hair on everything and occasionally tore up the furniture and ruined the carpet.

That said, I actually considered--for the briefest of moments--the possibility of a dog this afternoon. Minifob just freaking loves them, goes nuts whenever we see one at the playground. And of course being family dogs, they're always so gentle and nice and he gets to get right up and play with them... All boys are supposed to have a dog, right? But I know I would regret it, I know I would. At the very least, not until he's old enough to really care for it. I will never, ever, ever scoop another pile of poop out of the backyard. No way no how.

Don't do it!

Boys only needed dogs back in the days when they left the house after breakfast on summer vacation and didn't come home til teatime. Oh and in the days when you could feed them scraps from the table and nothing else and not have any idea you were being unfair.

They're expensive, smelly, create loads of extra cleaning, get worms and ticks and fleas etc, they take up the space of another half person at least. And need good training so as not to be a liability.

(Quick aside - are dogs not taught to walk to heel any more?! The amount of kids I see being dragged along by dogs! And they don't come when they're called - I often have them come sniffing and jumping round me while the owner is 50 yards away saying in a feeble voice, "Lennon, Lennon, come here....")

Your son will get plenty of pleasure out of other people's dogs for years yet. Review the situation in about 8 years.

BTW I am not a dog lover ;)
But I've had dos in the house both growing up and an adult and it's horrible sharing your house with a needy animal if you have reservations - any issues are magnified x 100.

lookout123 11-28-2007 01:27 PM

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Lennon, Lennon,
how appropriate, they name their dog after a tottenham player.;)

classicman 11-28-2007 01:39 PM

Many great childhood memories were spent with my dog. I agree with BigV - Every boy should have one. Many life lessons can be learned from having a dog.

Aliantha 11-28-2007 05:12 PM

Hey...there's nothing wrong with having a dog for a pet, and if he's your sons dog, then he should do the picking up after him. That's part of being a responsible pet owner.

We have two dogs and a yard. We don't pick up the poo every day. It gets mowed up once a week. That was the choice my kids made on how to deal with the poo. Since they're the ones that use the yard the most, it's their choice to step around it till it gets removed. Also, dogs tend to always go in about the same area, so it's not too bad.

They're not stinky or smelly either SG. Shame on you...you feline fondler!

Our dogs smell lovely after they've had their bath, and they don't get stinky unless they roll in something, which they don't have the option of doing if you don't leave stuff to rot in the yard. We don't even have dirt for them to roll in.

Dogs can be a hassle, or they can be a valuable part of your family structure. I can't imagine not having one, but if the animal is only going to be viewed as a nuisance, then I say don't get one, because that's not fair on the animal, or the rest of the family.

Clodfobble 11-28-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha
It gets mowed up once a week.

Are you saying the poop just gets run right over with the mower?! I've done that, on accident, when a pile stealthily eluded us during pickup time (as a kid, our family dog never pooped in the same place twice.) Poop is flung everywhere, and the smell is horrific. I guess maybe you have a riding mower? I don't see how it's even possible otherwise.

And how often do you bathe your dogs? Ours got a bath maybe once every 3-4 weeks, and she stank again within a day or two. And there was no getting around the permanent dog smell in the house.

I think the fact that you live in a very dry climate may be a huge factor, both in the poop consistency and the smell of the dogs.

Aliantha 11-28-2007 06:22 PM

Don't you have a catcher on your mower? It just goes in there with the grass clippings and then gets emptied into a compost pile down the back corner.

They get a bath every weekend pretty much.

Often dogs get a smell if they have an allergy, and of course, like humans general hygiene and diet can affect the smell too, although with dogs not as much because they don't sweat like we do.

Clodfobble 11-28-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha
Don't you have a catcher on your mower?

I've certainly seen them, but most don't around here. The clippings are just left to compost in the yard. :) I still maintain that your piles of dog poop must be dry for this to work though--ours could stay wet on the inside for a week or more. Nothing would go in the catcher because everything would just be smeared all over the mower blades.

Aliantha 11-28-2007 07:01 PM

we have a pretty humid atmosphere in my part of the country most of the time. We do use a catcher though, and it picks up the sloppy ones too, although it does tend to leave a smudge. ;)

Aliantha 11-28-2007 07:02 PM

oh, and just to be clear, there's no way I'd mow up dog poo without using a catcher. lol Can you imagine the splatter on your legs?

Undertoad 11-28-2007 07:38 PM

http://cellar.org/2007/perlysed.jpg

Aliantha 11-28-2007 07:42 PM

haha...that's funny UT. Poor SG. She's going to think the dog lovers (I nearly typed god lovers) are picking on her.

Griff 11-28-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 411473)
It just goes in there with the grass clippings and then gets emptied into a compost pile down the back corner.

Please say you are not using dog shit compost on edible plants...

Aliantha 11-28-2007 07:51 PM

nope. Usually around the palms and stuff. lol

Dog poo doesn't make for very good compost, but you have to put the clippings somewhere.

binky 11-28-2007 09:34 PM

my kids are driving me crazy for a dog, and not being a dog person, I am considering a daschund, as the seemingly lowest maintenance dog possible. Any input, anyone?

Aliantha 11-28-2007 09:44 PM

most of the sausage dogs I've known have been a bit snappy, so I probably wouldn't choose one of those for kids. Depends how old the kids are too.

We have a mini foxy and she's very low maintenance, friendly and has boundless energy.

binky 11-28-2007 09:47 PM

they are 7 and 11, and haven't squashed the hamster yet, so I guess they are pretty gentle on the pets. Sorry, do you mean a fox terrier?

Aliantha 11-28-2007 09:49 PM

yes...but the mini version. If you want to see what mine looks like you can view my house tour. She's just at the end of it.

binky 11-28-2007 09:51 PM

okay, another dumb question, where would I find your house tour?

Aliantha 11-28-2007 09:57 PM

right here

LJ 11-28-2007 09:57 PM

what she said

binky 11-29-2007 10:33 AM

Thanks Ali, he looks really cute. We need a dog that can handle hot weather (up to 120F in the worst of summer, so a shorthair is good)

ZenGum 11-29-2007 10:35 AM

:lol:

This thread really has gone to the dogs, hasn't it?

Shawnee123 11-29-2007 11:06 AM

I love dogs. I love most dogs. The reason I have never had a dog is just due to not really being home enough to give it the time it needs and not having the space (I think I've mentioned a few times I've always wanted an Irish Wolfhound but I love big dogs.)

I've met some of the sweetest little dogs, so cute you could eat 'em, but I've also seen a lot of little dogs who are snappy, growly, trembly, and well, just buttheads. That is very annoying to me. Why not just get a cat, or a chinchilla? ;) My dear ex dad-in-law had dachsunds that drove me completely bonkers. I really had to struggle to be nice to them and I am a serious animal lover...but they peed and jumped and scratched. Probably due to bad training as opposed to breed.

Here is a site where you can choose breeds based on what characteristics you are looking for.

Sundae 11-29-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 411508)
haha...that's funny UT. Poor SG. She's going to think the dog lovers (I nearly typed god lovers) are picking on her.

Nah, if someone said cats smell I'd be defending them too :)

What Clod said re smells is quite a good point though - we have a pretty wet climate here. The doggy smell I refer to is pretty much wet hair smell. You get it in school halls too sometimes - all the hot wet kiddies in their jumpers give it off. In Britain I have only rarely been to a house where I couldn't tell the owners had a dog.

Cat breath can smell vile, but they have smaller lungs to blow out of. Similar principle re cat farts ;)

Binky, no dog is really low maintenance if it is looked after properly. Think vet visits for injections, worming, de-fleaing, tooth care, 2-3 walks a day, pawprints, hair etc. Any animal will have an impact on your life and one which isn't in a cage/ tank will have a big impact. I'm not being anti-dog now, I'd say the same to a reluctant cat owner - think it through very carefully first.

classicman 11-29-2007 11:14 AM

nice link S123 - lotta good info!

rkzenrage 11-29-2007 03:18 PM

This lie needs to be removed UT.
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Don't barge in and interrupt every table in the place. Walk in and sit down, wait for something you know about and politely put in your two cents.


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