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DR€@M W€@V€R 05-29-2002 03:22 PM

HELLO...AM A NOOB !
 
hi everyone

im 19 femme uk...just surfed on in from the vb site...please be nice to me...


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dave 05-29-2002 03:56 PM

I wonder of the span, percentage wise, of a male's likelihood to be nice to a female and the likelihood to be nice to a male, assuming identical circumstances. In other words, how much more likely is a guy to stop and help a female with a flat tire than he is to help and stop a guy?

Undertoad 05-29-2002 04:13 PM

Welcome, and stuff.

Undertoad 05-29-2002 04:29 PM

She did go to the trouble of filling out some of the user profile stuff.

dave 05-29-2002 04:35 PM

And none of this really gives us any idea of whether or not they'll become a valuable member of the Cellar.

That post wasn't a troll, a spam, a flame... just an introductory first post. I've seen a lot of people make them here.

Whereas the situation would be different if the thread were titled "my new site!!!!!!!!1!!!!!" and had a link to m-a-j-you-get-the-idea, there's nothing abnormal about this post.

Now the question is this: is my willingness to let the situation play out an effect of her gender or a maturing on my part? Would I act the same if someone that was obviously male made the same post?

dave 05-29-2002 04:51 PM

Eh, I'm taken. And I'm not at all one to judge someone by looks. Personality is pretty much it to me.

Dig the fat legs avatar though.

DR€@M W€@V€R 05-29-2002 06:38 PM

well...that is a very old photo of me...my hair is longer n black now...but if i not welcome here...why dint you just say...


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DR€@M W€@V€R 05-29-2002 06:40 PM

n nicname...i cant believe you went to the length of registering at 2 different sites just to get a photo of me...all you had to do was ask n id have provided you with a better one...

;)


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Nic Name 05-29-2002 06:42 PM

i'm sorry. my bad. stay and play. i was out of line. i was rude. i'll kill my posts.

MaggieL 05-29-2002 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dhamsaic
In other words, how much more likely is a guy to stop and help a female with a flat tire than he is to help and stop a guy?
Well, that's an awfully loaded situation. Many guys would bristle at the suggestion that they need help changing a tire.

That said, I can tell you that in general people are more likely to help out a woman than a man...without regard to whether the people in question are male or female.

And I can speak with some authority on this issue. :-)

Welocme aboard, dream.

elSicomoro 05-29-2002 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dhamsaic
Now the question is this: is my willingness to let the situation play out an effect of her gender or a maturing on my part? Would I act the same if someone that was obviously male made the same post?
Hmmm...I should run that past my social psych professor at Southeast...David Ham: computer genius, guinea pig. :)

You'll have to excuse Nic...he's taking the Maple Leafs loss really hard. ;)

On a serious note d, I'd say you're maturing.

dave 05-29-2002 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaggieL
Well, that's an awfully loaded situation. Many guys would bristle at the suggestion that they need help changing a tire.
That was really just an arbitrary example. Any other situation which may require some assistance is worthy. Computer problems. Even situations that don't require assistance. Are we more likely to smile at a female than we are a male?

I know the answer to the question, but it's difficult to determine exactly why. I'm sure there are hundreds of reasons and it varies from person to person. I've definitely seen it in effect online as well, though I personally try to ignore gender as much as possible for most situations. It certainly comes in to play from time to time, but I've been making a conscious effort for quite some time to treat people equally regardless of gender. This generally means being less of an asshole to those who have a penis. :)

MaggieL 05-29-2002 09:56 PM

Which brings to mind the old proverb: "When the only tool you have is a penis, every problem looks like an asshole." :-)

That Guy 05-30-2002 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dhamsaic
Are we more likely to smile at a female than we are a male?
I think it might depend on one's sexual preference to a degree.

downside 05-30-2002 10:06 AM

Hello Dream Weaver.

I am downside. I am new here as well and thought I would jsut pop in to say "hello" and "welcome".

I'm sure I'll see you around the Cellar some time. Don't be a stranger.

Ds

SteveDallas 05-30-2002 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dhamsaic


That was really just an arbitrary example. Any other situation which may require some assistance is worthy. Computer problems. Even situations that don't require assistance. Are we more likely to smile at a female than we are a male?

Well yeah, the tire-changing example, I hate to say it but in this day & age I'm not likely to stop & get out of my car & help anybody. And I'm likely to be moderately suspicious of anybody who tries to help me. Maybe I'm just paranoid.

I wonder if it's linked to our expectation of the person asking for help? I think that people generally expect a woman to ask for help (when lost, etc.) than a man. In fact, and I hate to make these generalizations, but in the dark ages when I worked in the computer center in college, I observed this. A man who messed something up was more likely to try to fix it himself, and would generally either succeed, or screw it up beyond all help. Women were much more likely to ask for help immediately before the situation was out of hand.

juju 05-30-2002 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kbarger


Well yeah, the tire-changing example, I hate to say it but in this day & age I'm not likely to stop & get out of my car & help anybody. And I'm likely to be moderately suspicious of anybody who tries to help me. Maybe I'm just paranoid.

So, where do you live?

jeni 05-31-2002 12:09 AM

i'd say people are more likely to smile at a female than a male. of course, that does depend on the sex of the person. and their personal views. and yes, most likely their sexual preference. why? i don't know, aren't girls supposed to be "gentle" and "kind" and "soft" and "ladylike" and whatnot? and friendly? or so many of them are viewed, or used to be viewed, right? sure. anyway, who would i be more likely to smile at? someone who smiles at me.

SteveDallas 05-31-2002 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by juju2112


So, where do you live?

The Philadelphia burbs.

juju 05-31-2002 10:22 AM

I live in Arkansas, and it's pretty different here. If you're walking down the street, for example, every other stranger is likely to smile and say hello to you. People do help each other here.. so I think the trust factor is a regional thing.

DR€@M W€@V€R 06-10-2002 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by downside
Hello Dream Weaver.

I am downside. I am new here as well and thought I would jsut pop in to say "hello" and "welcome".

I'm sure I'll see you around the Cellar some time. Don't be a stranger.

Ds

hey downside

thanks for the welcome...hows you...

*hugs*


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Bil Braski 06-26-2002 12:03 PM

I'm hoping that this is the place for newbies to check in. So that's what I'm doing... I guess. Ummm... so. Yeah. I guess I don't have anything else to say. Carry on then. As you were.

Wow, I am the king of first impressions.

dave 06-26-2002 12:18 PM

No doubt.

I forget what my first post was here, but I don't think I made a big deal about it. I guess we could go back and see.

Anyway, welcome. Hope you enjoy your stay.

SteveDallas 06-26-2002 12:30 PM

HMMmmmm I wonder what my first post was on the old SCO/Waffle Cellar BBS back in '91 or '92 or whenever? Scary thought.... ahh yes the good ol' days.. the anonymous board, and The Cellar Oracle.

EDIT: It occurs to me that, knowing Tony, he probably has an archive somewhere. No, I DON'T want you to dig it out & see what my first post was!! :cool:

Nic Name 06-26-2002 12:46 PM

You may find it here ...
 
http://groups.google.com/

Undertoad 06-26-2002 12:50 PM

No, the local sections back then contained a lot more than was posted to the net feed.

And I don't have any archives! I may have some old stuff on a mothballed old system I have here, which is not the original Cellar (which had to hit the scrap heap) but one of the systems I always used back then. Might be some capture files and stuff, but no archives.

And that's a pity... a ton of really cool text is just gone...

elSicomoro 06-26-2002 01:52 PM

Mine was about Ashcroft and what appears to be his massive conservative growth from 1994-2000. Dave's was about the younger Barbara Bush's fake ID. UT's first Mk V post was incredibly to the point. :)

Other than the spammers that get through, most folks' first posts seem to be related to an ongoing thread...except for that Parmenion character...what a freak. :)

BrianR 06-28-2002 02:41 PM

I just wish I had a copy of the old KAOS Saga (remember that?)

I used to have it on disk but I have lost the disk over time and it was 5 1/4 anyway. Try finding
that hardware in a modern computer.

Ah, memories!


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