Limpjism's Truth-o-meter
 

Jimmy Legs has claimed the ability to know the truth of things that are posted on the Cellar. He "knew" that what's-his-name's sister didn't die in the WTC on 9-11, and knows that all of Rk's claims are bullshit. Let's test Lumberjim's ability to determine what is true and what is not.

I'll go first.

Limp, my SAT score was higher than yours. True, or false?

Come on, jizzy legs! You were so SURE about Jebaduuza's sister, and you're so SURE about Rk - play the game. Call skanx and see if he'll let you play.

Test question #2: Limpjism has stopped sucking skanx's cock.

Test question #3: (an easy one) Limpjism has the ability to stay On Topic for one day.

Oh for fuck's sake. Will you boys just stop? Please. Fucking hell this as bad as the frikken Labour Party.

With all due respect, Dana, why do you, and others, only post this kind of sentiment when someone fights back against LJ? Why not say something like this when LJ posts things like this? Whether you agree with LJ or not, if it's the flaming you don't like, stop LJ when he lights the fire.

I wasn't talking specifically to you. I was talking to all of you on both sides of this stupid bloody feud that seems to have developed.

And with all due respect, Spexxvet, I do speak up with Lj too. You all lit this fucking fire. All of you. You, Lj, Lookout, Rk. Just bloody stop it. Please. Christ y'all are giving me a headache.

There are people I like and respect in the Cellar whose posts I hesitate about reading now. I don't want to be drawn in because it doesn't help anyone, and certainly not me.

I'll shamelessly play the mental illness card and say this has gone beyond invigorating discussion and into personal nastiness and I find it hard to deal with.

Carry on as you were - but hopefully not.

[janxx brady] LJ, LJ, LJ![/janxx brady]

This was going to be a PM. I decided that was cowardly.

Honestly Spexx, one of the main reasons I have stayed out of this is because you are involved. I have always enjoyed your posts and I respect you. So if any claims of favouritism are made I have to include them on your part.

I have already shown my colours as liking both Jinx and LJ - even if they were completely separate I would like them as separate posters, the fact they are married does not affect my opinion.

I do not agree with either of them on every point. A big stumbling block is simply the US way of life compared to the UK way of life - see Dana's altercations with Bruce (both of whom I adore)

I think what is really causing me problems is you calling names as a matter of fact. When I see you say Limpjism or skanx it really hurts. I like these people and I like you. I know LJ uses rude nicknames for people - but he is not you and you are not him. It means more to you. You intend it to wound. Yes, I could pick up LJ on every dig he makes at someone like Freshnesschronic, but there isn't much point - LJ isn't genuinely trying to hurt him- my assumption is a tiredness with the victim card but I won't put words into his mouth.

I don't like any of the nasty vibes in the Cellar at the moment. And I'm not saying you are to blame. I'm just saying put the past behind. I admire your posts from 6 months back. Please - please - drop the personal attacks?

And the same to Lumberjim if it helps.

I always appreciate your voice of reason, of course Cherry. I've actually made an effort to avoid confrontations with spex. I'd like to go back to being strangers if at all possible. doesn't seem like it is though, does it?

I gotta be me. I'm going to break your(collective) balls if you swing them around too much. It's not like I have to go out of my way to do it. But, srsly, if you take yourself too seriously, I guess you'll take critisism the same way. And if you tell blatant lies to us....you deserve what you get. Speaking in general terms here, folks. If it comes to a point where everyone here is sick of my antics, and no one thinks I'm funny....or I'm getting criticized for everything I do....I'll probably be on my way.....(I honestly don't know how rage fortifies his walls so well...mine would have crumbled by now) so....spexx.....it kind of IS about popularity ....if your intent is to entertain and be entertained.....

See, I don't come here for the rush of a stout debate, or to get current events....I come to hang out with my friends. And if there's an asshole or two among them....I'm going to have a thing or two to say about it.

Having said that.....and this is important.....You have the same right I do to post and read here. If you get your jollies from playing devil's advocate and arguing both sides of a debate...or pretending to be a secret agent man......great.....but I am allowed to say funny things at your expense. It's in the charter.

now lick it.

Thanks for the kind words.

Sundae, I just really tired of lumberjim leading an attack on someone, and a bunch of others jumpimg on. It doesn't matter if I agree with the attacker or not, ganging up is not right.

Jinx is responsible for Shawnee leaving. I miss Shawnee, and the cellar is a worse place because she's gone. When I pointed out that jinx was hypocritical (or two-faced, it doesn't really matter which), her first response was to call me an asshole. Then she ran away. So much for name-calling.

Then there's
I try to ignore LJ, but then he starts in again, and I allow myself to be dragged in. He used to be funny. Now all he does is attack people. He made that list about Rk - I hardly agree with Rk on anything (a taser doesn't affect him??????) - but it was like seeing the class bully punching the class retard (no offense Rk), and the rest of the kids stepping in to give the retard a kick. It has to stop.

I don't think I've been mean to anyone else. I think LJ and jinx have earned everything they've gotten. It would be easy to get me to stop - LJ and jinx just need to stop their nastiness.

I'll do my best to ignore them.

you know who's responsible for shawnee leaving? shawnee. nigga pleeez

Damn it, are you using that headache excuse again tonight? I'm going to the pub. mutter... grumble.... kick the cat...

*grins* honey for you I'd take an aspirin!

so you're hating on me because people agree with me and 'pile on'? does that make sense? have you ever seen me campaign against someone, or try to convince people to bash my 'victims'? do you really think I'm leading an attack? I am one person.


I think you should try to honestly reassess what it is you resent about me. You never had a problem with me until I started in on you for being slippery. Now you say you're defending the 'vicitms' the poor classs retards like rage ( that was a good one, btw...I'm sure he appreciates you coming to his rescue)

[big voice]Heroooooooo of the Stuuuuuuupid! [/big voice]

I like Shawnee, and I miss her too, but you are wrong here. Shawnee self destructed. She wasn't driven out.

I agree glatt. I also don't think this place is any better or worse without her either. It is what it is. People come and go and that's their choice. And seriously, if all you get is agro, why bother coming here unless you like it?

There's got to be a better reason.

Oh please. If Shawnee blames me for her leaving this time she can come and have that discussion with me. Or not. I don't care either way.

Yea...I miss that Shawnee. I was just talking to myself about that in the other thread. People are right though...Her feelings got hurt and she ran off like a kid.....She did that to herself...She needs to get over it and c'mon back nah'.

And I'm still going to say that this place is 35 percent less funny without her. (Yeah...that's worse folks)

I'd like to know why people keep discussing her actually. She's gone and she left in a very childish manner in my opinion.

Bugger her. She's gone so everyone, please move on.

Anyway, this is spex's thread to complain about Jimbo Edit: and not Jinx.

Carry on please.

what teh hell does jinx have to do with it, again?

I think I just got finished reading Jinx's post about Shawnee and somehow left her in it. Want me to edit her out? lol I doubt she cares either way though.

Yeah, not so much...

I haven't been around here long enough to really put any weight in on this whole thing, but I'm going to back SG up on this and also add that the cellar is a forum on the internet. I think things would go more smoothly if there were a little screen that you went to right before submitting a post that said, 'Please remember, this is only a forum on the internet.' and you have to press the nice little 'OK' button to show that you understood that much.

Lighten up a bit and smile.

O RLY? Have you read the exchanges? This guy dogs me for no good reason, whatsoever. It's fun to him? Because everyone "knows" it's not "genuine" its ok to be an asshole to me for no reason? Attacking me personally "just because?"
I agree with spexx, he is attacking at random. I just don't say more because he'll only degrade me even more.
This is a PM I sent to him a while back that I'm going to post because HE was about to post it himself. Here goes:
I'm just waiting for this to happen. He let me alone for a little while then arbitrarily called me inanely stupid...because? No reason, actually.
I think this is what Spexxvet is calling out LJ on. I'd definitely like the harassment to stop, because it is NOT for fun for "bitches", "victims", "whiners" like me. Well you even said it, everyone has a right to be here so give me mine. It's just bullying, I came to post and not be attacked on every thread.

http://www.getreligion.org/wp-conten...os/kleenex.jpg


aw....cmon! that's funny!


fresh....I'm just trying to make people laugh, babe. even you. People in your life teach you different lessons. Maybe I'm here to teach you to see the humor in yourself. you're starting to get it. That ESPN thread is proof of that. Did I dog you in that thread? no....I didn't. any idea why? cuz you were honest about it, and saw the humor in it. yay!

I want to applaud Sundae Girl for your post. Showing a bit of sensitivity in the middle of a flame-fight takes great courage. Three cheers. Add that to your list of self-esteem boosting notes, mate.

I still count as a n00b, but I lurked for a while before joining, and have browsed the archives a fair bit. I reckon the name calling and personal attacks have got a bit over the top recently. I don't think any single person is to blame. It starts out with a small jab and escalates ... but some are pretty quick to escalate. I think the cellar would be better without it.

I always preview my posts and ask, what can I cut out of this? The temptation is always to add more, but better posts are often made by cutting.

Now I'm wondering what you cut out of that last one...

I do need to ignore the stalkers & trolls again instead of replying to them, it is beneath me, you are correct. I used to and have stopped doing that.
Thanks for the reminder.
Well put.

yes, lets all ignore each other then, shall we?

If a post is just an insult or something similar it does not deserve an answer. It only lowers the one posting the reply. I need to remember that.

[Regarding the foregoing with an interested expression, no :corn: needed]

Pexxie, I have always enjoyed your posts previously, but now they just seem petty (this thread is a prime example).....name calling in earnest is just fucked up...you are doing exactly what you claim to dislike.

I'm not backing LJ, but I work with 10 guys like him....same sense of humour, same style....he makes me laugh more than he makes me go :eek: I cant believe he said that.

I dont think you can say he is leading an attack....people are just making up their own minds about whats going on. I dont see anyone attacking RK and saying "but as LJ pointed out.....blahblahblah".

I see intelligent people, forming THEIR own opinion of RK (sorry RK, but your name was bought up), his views and the way he portrays them. They are arguing logically with him and not following anyone elses direction.

RK's *i dont care* attitude will get a lot of people off side, like HH mentioned ages ago, its kinda pointless to debate with someone who doesnt see any merit whatsoever in an opposing view and doesnt seem to want too.

Does that mean that none of us here give a shit about him? No..people were genuinely concerned when he was ill and thats when you see the REAL aspect of the cellar.

Do I agree with LJ's thread directed at RK, no, and I think I have shown support for RK in the past.

I think you are selling dwellars short if you think they will just not like someone coz LJ said too.

The other thing I see, LJ doesnt play favorites with his *shit hanging*. He will fling shit at all of us, I just think most of us throw it back or laugh at the comical intention and move on. No big deal made, no over reaction....done.

Regarding FNC, seriously, when he first came here, he was a bit whiney and LJ poked fun at him, he fired up and got more whiney.....as mentioned, lesson to be learned.....harden the fuck up.

I have no issues with FNC, I enjoy the majority of his posts and the fact that he shows me a glimpse of US college life that I havent seen.

Does that mean I wont poke shit at him when he whinges about something....no. I poke fun at my kids when they whine and we are still friends.

Re: Shawnee - I disagree Ali. We dont have to move on if we *miss* someone. Shawnee was an extravagant personality, she made an impact, she involved us in her life.

If one of my real life friends packs their bat and ball and goes off in a huff, I dont just say *fuck em* and move on.

Shawnee realised that she was in a bad head space, and left. She's firey and shes done it before. Its part of her personality. I accept that part of her personality.

I love the cellar, even with all the shit going on, I find the threads I want to participate in.

I just think the pettiness on ALL sides has gone too fucken far and we need to call a truce. [/off soap box] :)

I'd like to second everything ducks just said.

http://cellar.org/2007/aintnohowpermanent.jpg

It's too small to read, unfortunately... it says Don't take life too serious.. it ain't nohow permanent.

I can't resist:

Yes, I've been lurking. I watch you guys beat the shit out of each other all the time. And here, after all this time, you're dragging me in.

I love the hatred toward "how I left." Let me remind you that I have not blamed anyone (Jinx, in your infinite wisdom I am sure that's what you meant in your post...that I have somehow implied to anyone that YOU were the reason; again, many of you think too much of yourself) and I apologized to those people I was into it with before I left (and we see what that meant to them, how forgiving and caring you can be.) I'm sorry some of you felt it was "childish" or that I "self-destructed" but you do not know anything. I guess if I came on here and whined constantly about my state of mental health I would get all kinds of sympathy and support, because many of you love those who are weak, who you can control. That is one satisfaction you may not have from me. The pain I am going through is something I am struggling to work through; though I have eluded to it, I find it difficult to ask for help. But this is not the correct tack, so it seems.

In reality, there are some great people here. In reality, many of you are cruel and heartless and can't see beyond your own agenda.

To those who say they've missed me, thank you. I miss this place too. I miss many of you. I do still giggle at some of the antics, and I feel a hole in my life, but my state of mental health, though it might not fit what some of you believe to be acceptable duress, does not allow for me to keep letting myself get hurt (see, I took responsibility for letting it happen to myself; I do not need to be reminded that I am flawed, esp by people I have grown to like.)

Say all you want, I really don't give a fuck, but I couldn't let this go by without saying "Ha fucking Ha you still can't get me out of your tiny little heads." For me, poetic justice at its finest. (Well, there goes the false bravado again, trying to cover up hurt feelings with fake strength, another flaw that does not fit into acceptable.)

btw, taking my pictures away was stupid, but I thought I'd free up some bandwidth while I was at it.

Glorious! :)

I guess you missed the part where lots of people, like me, said they missed you.

Are you trying to get them to regret saying that?

Again, I use the phrase "some of you" quite often in my post. I didn't intend all-inclusiveness. No, I don't want people to regret saying anything. When can I be myself? When can I defend myself? Cowering in a corner, or fighting like a cornered animal, which gets me respect?

Shawnee. I'm sorry that the cellar has become a more negative, than positive place to be for you. I hadn't realised you were going through the mill.

I don't think anybody who's posted about you leaving, really wished to attack you. It was a response to the apportioning of blame which followed your departure.

I hope you'll stick around, or at the least come back when you are less likely to feel hurt.

All the best.

Dana

"A gentle reminder from the folks who brought you absolutely nothing--IT'S A FREAKIN' MESSAGE BOARD!!!" Don't take it so seriously. There are two sides to every poster. The one that posts and the one they are in the real world.
Taking anything at face value and screaming about it on a message board is like slapping Edmund Gwen for not visiting you as Santa Claus from "Miracle on 34th Street". These are characters in a very off broadway play.

JMO

Ducks, I'm not picking on you, I'm responding to you because you posted last.
Thank you
I don't see it as any more or less petty than lj's thread about Rk, or his thread about me, yet nobody pointed out how his threads were petty. I think if more people reacted more often to lj the way they did when he posted about Jeb's sister, things wouldn't get this out of hand. When lj made the list of things we know about Rk, think how it would have been different if a Sundaegirl-like voice said "Rk, what lj says is valid, but lj, you could present your concerns with Rk in a more constructive manner". No flames would have erupted. I certainly would not have felt the need to get involved. Instead, a bunch of others piped in with "don't forget Rk was/did...".

Sorry, I'm fighting fire with fire. Jim doesn't understand rational dialogue. His repsonse to SG was "I'm not going to change" (paraphrase).

He's leading in the sense that if he didn't initiate something, it would be much less likely to occur.

It seems kinda insincere to me. The Cellar cares when he's ill, but not when he's attacked by lj. Hmmmmm.... makes me question how much the Cellar really cares.

Lj busting balls is one thing - lj being nasty, hateful, and spiteful is entirely different. I have no problem when he says "your mama" to me. But when he relentlessly pounds someone, it's not funny. And it's only certain people. If Fresh and Flint posted the exact same words, lj would poke funnily at FLint, but would nastily pound Fresh.

Would you care to mediate terms?:)

With the certainty that "I am OK", I find it easy to just skip by posts that are written specifically to annoy me, directly or indirectly.

Not everybody likes me and I wouldn't expect them to. That's how the world works. But it doesn't really matter. They can attack me, but of course it only hurts their reputation amongst those who like me, and spoils their day to concentrate on such negativity. And then I have this small sense of satisfaction, as I ignore the post, that they tried and failed to actually hurt me.

In another half a day there are 100 more posts. Win.

your perception is inaccurate, sir. i don't nastily pound anyone. i'm always poking funnily. the only one ive gotten really mad at on here ...ever....was sycamore. and that was long ago. and i'm just not a spiteful person. I think it's more likely that your feelings about me are coloring your perception of my intent. it seems like you may be one of the only ones that doesn't get this. I even think rage gets it. freshness....i'm on the fence about. he gets pissed off pretty easily. but, dude....you're just livid.

Then I guess my little antics have worked!!! I knew you were lurking! Ha Ha Haaa!

http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=365


You selfish, childish, piece of dung......


;)

Hope you decide to stay.....:)

Please stay.

Well I guess the difference for you and me is that I never even spoke to Shawnee and most of what I saw her post was hurtful to someone else.

Maybe that's why I don't care if she's here or not.

Let me qualify that by telling you all what I've said to a couple of other people in private.

This is a message board. I live a million miles from any of you, and so the chances of actually being real friends in any meaningful way is incredibly remote. Sure I can be friendly with people and there are others that I connect with better than others, but at the end of the day, it's just a place I come to when I should be doing other stuff I don't feel like doing. Maybe it means a lot more to other people, but for me in all honesty, it's words on a screen by personas I can never hope to really know unless I get to know that person in real life, and of course as I mentioned, the chances of that are remote.

So in summary, yeah, if someone decides to spit the dummy and stomp off, they can take their bat and ball and do whatever they like with it. I really don't care. One day I'll stop posting here, and I'm sure people will care less when that happens too. I don't expect anyone to be too bothered and I mean that in all honesty and with no disrespect to those I feel a certain kinship to. As I've said before, those that matter more than the rest know where to find me.

But this is only my opinion. It's the way I feel. Others feel differently and take different things from this place and so maybe do miss people who disappear with or without notice and that's great for them. It's unlikely that I'll change my point of view though. Maybe I've become a bit cynicle (I don't think I've spelled that correctly) of the internet and so on, but I just don't buy into it as much as some apparently do.

Oh yeah, I'm sure there are a few who wish I'd just bugger off, but I'm not going to just yet. lol Bad luck!

I know you arent picking on me pexx, and I expected a reply...since I directed my comments at you :)

I didnt like LJ's thread about RK, I responded in that thread.

I didnt call LJ out directly, maybe I should of.

The thread was made, people responded, more people responded....but you know what pex, I just read most of that thread...and it isnt that bad.

As mentioned, a few people have taken issue with RK and the way he posts, his views etc....he doesnt care.....he's happy to either ignore or argue his views.....LET HIM!

There was humour in that thread, it could of taking a lot different direction if people hadnt come in with the name calling and personal shit.

I believe LJ said...if enough people take exception to his manner and posting...that he will leave (my words)

The people who dont have an issue with RK, have shown their support many times. If you look at that thread, there is more support or indifference than there is shit flinging, individual support, repeat offender shit flingers :)

Anyways, you and I can bounce this shit back and forth all day. I like both you and LJ.

The fact of the matter is.....this isnt going to get resolved, so we either find a way to deal with it, or continue this bullshit that no one wants.

Its up to you guys and someone has to make the first step.....

Ok, I'll be the bigger man...... again.

And that is sure your perception. I think most people would say most of my posts are not hurtful. Your perception is off. I can recall many many times I have "sent warm thoughts" or complimented someone for something, congratulated them on an accomplishment, comisserated with them over disappointments. When backed into a corner (my perception) yes I can be mean, I can retaliate. I don't think that is any different than you.

Say what you want about me, but saying that most of me is hurtful, well, you're wrong. I even *tried* to say nice things to my arch-enemies, to no avail. Passive-aggressive meanness is no less mean.

Though I'm sure you can go back and find all my mean posts, while you are doing so I urge you to find me. The me who isn't getting shat upon and poked, and you will see that I'm mostly a very nice human. You may not see that, but please don't overgeneralize me.

And very funny.

And very ready to stop feeling hurt and get some funnies in. Just a little, here and there. Thanks, Spexx. Thanks all of you, even the ones who make me look at sides of myself I'm not particularly fond of. My flaws suck big time; my good points are very good. I need to give myself a break even as I expect one from others.

S'alright? S'alright.

you eyein' me up? feelin' froggy? want a piece a me?

::chest bucks you::

i dont think so

Bigger than 285?

Shawnee, I know I don't need to say it, but I will anyway...

Welcome back,
Your dreams were your ticket out...

I can't remember the rest, but I know you appreciate 70's TV theme songs.

Who'da thought they'd lead ya
Back here where they (don't) need ya.

Yeah, we tease her a lot
Cause we got her on the spot

I love me some Jesus!:D

In every respect ;)

There we go. You just described the human condition. We're all flawed. We can all be decent and we can all be mean. And usually we are our own worst critics.

Welcome back shawnee. And yes, give yourself a break :)

Well it's nice that you had nice things to say to or about people also. Perhaps I just don't get your sense of humour. Who knows. We all see the world differently. I hope you enjoy your time here now you've returned, or at least, now that you've decided to stop lurking.

Please don't take my comments about whether you're here or not personally. They're meant in general with regard to everyone or anyone who comes or goes. I just got sick of people moaning about you that's all. Looks like all their moaning had the desired effect for them though, so that's also very nice for you.

For some of us, what keeps us here is a tendency to be stubborn.