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freshnesschronic 09-05-2007 12:40 AM

Sleep
 
I woke up this morning at 8:54 am. My class was at 9. I freaked out, jumped out of bed, cursed myself for turning off both my alarms at 8 and 8:11 and went back to sleep. Now I put on a shirt, grabbed my shit and speed walked to the bus stop, to arrive just under 20 minutes late to class.
:greenface

Last semester I got 8 hours of sleep every week night. 2am-10am. I had an 11am everyday during the week. This week I have 2 8ams, 2 9ams and a 10am and am used to turning in much later than what I should to get 8 hours of sleep. Anyone have sleep scheduling advice? Not only do I struggle to stay awake in nearly every class but I'm never tired late at nite which perpetuates this unhealthy sleep cycle. Old farts, how did you guys do it way back when. :D

skysidhe 09-05-2007 12:49 AM

old fart reporting :)


I think maybe to do what you did last semester and schedule late classes. I've always been an early riser and the only thing getting older does for me is reduce my total hours of sleep needed. Like I can still get to bed at 12 and get up at 6 am.

I think it is just the blessing/curse of youth to want to be up all night. I guess don't have any other good advice fresh. I just wanted to chat with you. :)

Razzmatazz13 09-05-2007 04:01 AM

Try and schedule later classes...like sky said....

I'm also a big big fan of power naps between classes, I don't sleep right at all anymore though so maybe I'm not the best person to take advice from :D

DucksNuts 09-05-2007 05:10 AM

What do you do when you go to sleep at 2am?

Do you have a routine? Do you have something that is your trigger that it is sleep time?

To get up at 8, you only need to be going to sleep at midnite, that shouldnt be too hard, its just an adjustment of 2 hours.

Most of the fact that you cant sleep earlier in the nite will be in your head, just start your wind down routine a bit earlier.

Read a book, do some homework, they are usually guaranteed to make you sleepy.

Stop doing anything mentally stimulating an hour before you should be going to bed, like, 11pm.

I used to work shift work, try getting off going from getting up at 4.00am one week to getting home from work at 6am the next week. :D

Back in those days, I used to be able to sleep no problems, just laid down and I was out cold.

Now, its drug induced or nothing.

piercehawkeye45 09-06-2007 03:12 PM

Fresh, sleep is one of the things that you have consider very precious in college or you have to give it up. One of my teachers last year told the class "In college, there are three things you can do, school, sleep, or social life, but unfortunately, there is only time for two." I have found this to be mostly true.

My earliest class starts at 9:00 every day and assuming I get up at around 7:30-8:00, I try to go to bed around 1 or 2 in the morning and try to get 5-6 hours a night with one night getting around 7 or 8. I gave up on the idea of getting a definite sleep schedule and that has worked out for me and the only setback is being tired at relaxing times of the day.

If you do not want to build a definite sleep schedule slowly get less and less sleep every week and you should get used to it, without a lower in performance. You will learn to get a second wind on staying up as well. If you get deprived of sleep you also fall asleep right away which is a plus.

If you are looking for a definite sleep schedule (my roommate did that last year), routine is a big thing. Try to do the same thing every night before you go to bed and try to wake up at the same time every morning. If you want help getting on a schedule I would try drinking chamomile tea or taking sleeping pills, those work but dependency is another issue.

I would make that decision as early as possible because later in the semester you may be pressured to choose friends and school over sleep, I'm sure it has happened already, so be ready to give up one of them unless you have excellent time management.

glatt 09-06-2007 03:29 PM

In college, you can also sleep in on the weekends to make up for lost sleep during the week. I kind of miss that.

Cloud 09-06-2007 04:00 PM

Go to sleep earlier or take a nap in the afternoon.

I mean--it's not all that hard, but you have to train yourself. A regular routine is best.

elSicomoro 09-06-2007 04:54 PM

For me, a regular routine helps along with very little caffeine. I'm normally in bed no later than 2am and up no later than 10am. Unfortunately, I can only sleep for about 7 or so hours at a time. My bed is too firm and it totally fucks with my back.

Clodfobble 09-06-2007 05:13 PM

Get a waffle pad! They're like $15 at Wal-Mart or Target, and make any bed soft and comfortable.

Pie 09-06-2007 07:26 PM

Uh, sex makes you sleepy.
Try that.

DucksNuts 09-06-2007 07:34 PM

Not me, sex makes me bouncy.

Perry Winkle 09-07-2007 05:09 AM

Maybe sex just makes guys sleepy?

It makes me both sleepy and hungry.

Nothing beats a good shag, a meatball parm sub, and a nap. In that order preferably.

DucksNuts 09-07-2007 05:29 AM

Ahhh, you have the taste.....

queequeger 09-07-2007 12:31 PM

You ever need an excuse as to why you fall asleep after sex? Because of science!

Quote:

Then there is the biochemistry of the orgasm itself. Research shows that during ejaculation, men release a cocktail of brain chemicals, including norepinephrine, serotonin, oxytocin, vasopressin, nitric oxide (NO), and the hormone prolactin. The release of prolactin is linked to the feeling of sexual satisfaction, and it also mediates the “recovery time” that men are well aware of—the time a guy must wait before “giving it another go.” Studies have also shown that men deficient in prolactin have faster recovery times.

Prolactin levels are naturally higher during sleep, and animals injected with the chemical become tired immediately. This suggests a strong link between prolactin and sleep, so it’s likely that the hormone’s release during orgasm causes men to feel sleepy.
http://scienceline.org/2006/09/25/ask-wenner-sex/

TheMercenary 09-07-2007 07:42 PM

Sleep is overrated.

queequeger 09-07-2007 09:50 PM

Blashpeme.

That's like saying sex is overrated.

I feel deja vue...

bluecuracao 09-08-2007 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 381883)
Last semester I got 8 hours of sleep every week night.

What are you, a Greek/Latin major? ;)

The only time I got 8 hours of sleep in one night while I was in school, was after working in studio the whole night before. Then the next night, I would sleep exactly 8 hours whether I wanted to or not.

Typically, I did not sleep very much during the week, but I'd sleep late either Saturday or Sunday.

zippyt 09-08-2007 04:21 AM

Sleep sounds good about now

freshnesschronic 09-08-2007 09:14 AM

No I'm a Sports Management major! :D And I got 8 hours of sleep because my schedule allowed. I explained, class everyday at 11 meant going to sleep from 2-10am was routine.

Kitsune 09-25-2007 08:48 AM

What is it about getting too much sleep? It doesn't make much sense. I can go to bed at 11pm and wake at 5:30am and be wide awake and ready to face the world. This is far too early for my schedule, though, so I hit the pillow and drift off again for another two hours. 7:30am rolls around and, suddenly, getting up is like returning from the dead. I'll feel horribly groggy and awful. Even if I sleep straight through the night a full eight hours, I'll have the same difficult time. Sleeping in on weekends is the absolute worst. (sounds like misery, huh?) Five to six hours seems to be about right. So...

Less sleep = more awake? What the hell?

I thought it was a problem of waking at the wrong time in my sleep cycle, so I have been using one of those gradual wake alarm clocks. It doesn't seem to make a difference. Anyone have similar experiences?

Shawnee123 09-25-2007 08:54 AM

I know when I've had a good nights sleep (i.e. not drunken sleep, not nightmare-riddled sleep, not tossy-turny all nighty sleep) because I'm way more tired the next day and I feel like I was hit by a truck.

theotherguy 09-25-2007 05:02 PM

My wife wants one of those damned gradual awake clocks. That would just irritate me. Like waking up with the sun. I don't know why it makes me so frustrated.

I don't know that I ever get enough sleep.

freshnesschronic 09-25-2007 05:03 PM

I thought when you wake up in stage 4 or REM you're in deep sleep and that makes you feel the shittiest why you wake up. So Kitsune maybe you're waking up in REM after falling asleep again.

And Shawnee doesn't alcohol clearing out of your bloodstream count as being passed out, instead of sleep? I think I learned it takes 3 hours of sleep to eliminates two shots, so for people who get totally shitfaced they basically didn't get any sleep, they just were passed out all night. Right?

theotherguy 09-25-2007 05:16 PM

Are you saying that being passed out is not the same as sleeping? Are you sure you are in college?

I used to count that as quality sleep time when I was in school.

freshnesschronic 09-25-2007 05:21 PM

Most of my friends say passed out sleep sucks. I concur--it goes really fast and I feel like dying when waking up with a hangover. From my summer psychology class when we learned of sleep cycles my prof said being passed out is not sleeping. It's....being passed out? And like when one has cleared alcohol form their system they start the sleep system all over again.

So say you have four shots, so it takes 6 hours (+- depending on variety of things, genetics, the drinks, etc.) to clear your system. The rest of your sleep is now starting over from stage 1 so when you wake up at like 9 hours of total "sleep" you actually wake up in REM or stage 4 and you feel shitty. That's how I understand it.

theotherguy 09-25-2007 05:24 PM

[old man voice]What? Back in my day, we used to drink all night, pass out, then get up and go to afternoon classes. Come 5PM we'd start all over again. Sheesh! Kids these days.[/old man voice]

freshnesschronic 09-25-2007 05:26 PM

Tell me a story grandpa! I heard people didn't use condoms in the 60s either....no way! [semi serious question]

piercehawkeye45 09-25-2007 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 389019)
I thought when you wake up in stage 4 or REM you're in deep sleep and that makes you feel the shittiest why you wake up. So Kitsune maybe you're waking up in REM after falling asleep again.

You've got part of that wrong but most it was right Fresh.

When you wake up from stage 4 sleep you will feel the shittiest because your mind will continue the sleep cycle until it is finished, or at least that is the theory.

REM is just stage 1 sleep so you should feel refreshed when waking from that.

http://www.sleepdisorderchannel.com/stages/


I don't know about the passing out thing though. Whenever I drink and get a good buzz I will go to bed and wake up feeling great, but I don't know if that is considered passing out or not. The two times I have passed out the whole next day I felt like shit and slept during most of it so it could be true. I haven't heard anything about it before now though.

bluecuracao 09-25-2007 08:41 PM

Sometimes I sleep the best after I've had a few. No crazy dreams! (That I'm aware of, anyway.) The next day, I'll feel queasy, but not necessarily tired.

Cloud 10-06-2007 09:52 AM

found this and thought of you.

Quote:

but if you hit snooze Clocky jumps off your nightstand (up to 3 feet) and wheels around your room looking for a place to hide


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