The Science of Gaydar
 

An interesting article on the physical differences, that appear to be often indicative, between queers and straights.

OK, I'm left handed, and my index finger is definitely shorter than my ring finger. ON BOTH HANDS!!!

OMG, I must be gay!

Interesting, a tiny bit more evidence that homosexuality has genetic influences.

Nonsense. Everyone knows that homosexuality is a choice. Granted, its a choice made at the genetic level, but still a choice. :rolleyes:

A choice by god?

Let me ask you this: if I decided to be gay (because i am SO sick of men and their little games) do you think I would even get hit on since I'm not really gay? Would my little act show through? Would they notice my right-handedness, or would they bother to measure and see that my index finger is indeed shorter than my ring finger?

Ahh, never mind. It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that "schwing!"

Uh oh. Well now that we found out about me........

It doesn't seem fair that lesbians index fingers are smaller though.
;)
That sucks.

i think you have that backwards...unless you meant that being gay has influence on genetics....which i would think is obvious since 100% gay people can't procreate....

there is no god

did you just out yourself?

A gene can get passed down even when initiated, will not produce offspring. Pure altruism is an example of this, some birds will not produce children and only help raise their family's offspring and that trait is still there. A genetic "gay" gene will not be a simple Mendel dominant-recessive equation but could include a very complex dominant-recessive equation, a trait that is determined by the environment of the fetus, a mutation (kind of like down syndrome, unlikely), a combination of the above, or something I haven't thought of.

what?

Genetics don't just work with the stereotypical Mendel dominant-recessive gene combination (AA, Aa, aa).

Pure altruism is probably a very complex dominant-recessive combination that is so ingrained in that bird's population that it will not go away even when the altruistic gene is initiated, that individual will not produce offspring.

There are lizards that when the fetus is still growing in the egg, the sex is determined by the temperature of the egg. If the egg temperature is above a certain threshold, it will become female, below, a male. That means that a trait can pop up at any time no matter if that trait will cause the individual to produce children or not.

Down Syndrome is when the 23rd allele (I think that is what it is) is copied twice so they have one extra allele than normal. Most people with Down Syndrome do not procreate and the gene still shows up.

If homosexuality is genetic or influenced by genetics, then it would most likely be under one of those three categories or something that I haven't thought of, not a simple Mendel equation.

Guess I'm out too then...I meet all but one of those criteria.

This is junk science at it's worst. Nearly ALL men have index fingers shorter than their ring fingers. Women are the opposite. But sexual preference has NOTHING to do with finger size. Whorls in one direction or another mean nothing. Just for the record, only my thumbs and left middle finger even HAVE whorls, the rest are arches.

I file this in the same category as online relationship tests, purity tests and marriage quizzes (a POX on whoever invented those)

Brian

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!:eek:

Just fucking great. Now I'm going to have to join the pink pistols and register as a Republican.:ymca: ;)

I always though the most outstanding trait of me being gay was that I liked to suck dick.
Now I know I can just show people my fingers to prove it.

:lol: :lol2:

It's the whorl in your hair, not fingerprints. Did you read the article? It's building a case in favor of nature vs nurture, with quantitative measurements.

:D :D he said ^^Pink Pistols

Aha, so that's why so many men show me their finger when I'm driving! And here was me thinking they were just telling me that my driving skills were #1 :p

Now you know they just want to get up your tail pipe. ;-)

The index/ring finger ratio difference is related to the amount of testosterone in the womb when the fetus was growing (women produce testosterone in small amounts, just like men produce estrogen - especially overweight men, because it's produced by fatty tissue in men).

Homosexuality is an inherited trait which has been seen in nearly all vertebrate species, not just humans. It's a fallacy to think that gays don't reproduce, most lesbians throughout time have been forced to marry in spite of their sexual orientation, and many homosexuals of both sexes have children. Some try to repress their feelings and act hetero until it becomes too much. Some do it all their lives.

Some just want to have children, and find a willing sperm donor or egg/womb donor.

which is why i stipulated 100% gay. not 100% OF gays. I've known gay people that have kids.

I think I may have misinterpreted this because of the way it is worded. It seemed, on the first pass, that you were saying that homosexuality influences genes. reading more carefully, you're saying that genetics influence homosexuality.

Oh, haha, I thought you were saying that homosexuality influences genes. My bad as well.

Homosexuality DOES influence jeans. Look inside any Abercrombie and Fitch catalogue.

I'm more concerned with toes, than fingers. You can tell if someone is a serial killer by their toes.

Killing cereal with their toes? Damn, I better hide the corn flakes.

At least that's your excuse and you're sticking to it.....

I don't trust any one till they take their socks off.

http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation.../longtoes.html

Sort of makes you a sock shucker, huh? :D

The only thing better then the women's A&F jeans is getting to look at the posters for men's A&F jeans while you try them on.

Please, stop murdering your biology. It breaks my heart. We should all have 2 alleles of every gene in our DNA. One from mom, one from pop.

Down syndrome is known as Trisomy 21, becasue it is a result of the indivdual having part or all of the 21st chromosome in triplicate, not duplicate as in a typical individual. As women age, the last cell division in meiosis becomes more likely to have errors, thus we see an increased incidence of Down's babies born to older mothers. Trisomy occurs for all of our chromosomes, however for most it is a fatal mistake and the fetus dies. Men don't have this problem, because they are continually making brand spanking new sperm every day. A woman is born with the finite number of eggs that she will have for her lifetime.

LR, at what age does this begin to be an issue?

Also, you said "spanking new sperm every day." That's funny.

I sometimes refer to odd people as 'old eggs'

My cousin (mother of 3) says late 30s.

36 is the official age at which you get classified as "high-risk" due to your age, but that's for a wide variety of things, I don't know how the frequency of Downs lines up with that.

so...while i'm holding your purse and looking like a total dick in that faggy store that doesn't even MAKE clothes that fit real man sized men......you're in there with your pants off looking at strange mens' butts?!

::kicks stuff around the room::

Hey, I spent 2 hours in a bra shop one day...I was the only guy in there the whole time. Good thing I love April a whole lot!

I had a similar experience last week, but it was 25 minutes in the "young womens'" bra section of Target. Talk about surreal...

That almost sounds pedophilic, man!

lmao!

But I guess I'm going to the wrong clothing stores. Quality Farm and Fleet ain't got no pitchers of hot guys! :lol:

*sticks thumbs between overall straps and flannel, moves piece of straw from one corner of mouth to other*

Nope, but they got some reel good shitkickers. :D

lol, Bri. You know what I'm talkin' 'bout! *spits tobaccy on the floor*

Everybody thinks Ohio is nuthin' but farmers, but we got us a rocky-roll music mooseeum an' a bridge named after a MacDonny samich!

And we gots buckeyes!

Yuh can't sees outta 'em (we tried with Ethel, you know she got her one good eye put out last fall shuckin' corn) but they make fer a good scarecrow face!

i just about spit coffee on that one! :)

The only embarrassing thing, was the sleazy thoughts in your head. You know, all those women knew, you were stripping them naked with your eyes. Well maybe not the sagging grandmother, but the rest.

Yes, late 30's. Nice website about Down Syndrome, if you'd like more info.

Lots of things can affect the health of your eggs...they are exposed to all the chemicals etc. that you expose yourself to. Lots of females don't think about this in their teens and 20's. Basically, they have an expiration date, just like the ones in your fridge. MMMmmmm.

Almost? I can just hear Chris Hanson now.... "

Heh...Dateline will move from their houses to the children's section of stores and near schools.

Apparently the size bra my girlfriend wears are cheaper in that section of the store... It was the weirdest feeling ever. Nobody gave me a second look, but I felt like they should have. I don't know why I didn't just go wander elsewhere other than the fact that I was getting to pick the colors and patterns on things I have a great time removing.

I heard a statistic at one stage which said that every for every year over 30 you are at the time of conception your risk of developemental problems in your child doubles.

BINGO!

So that means that a woman of 40 (I believe the age of the man is less important) has an increased risk of problems 2^10 = 1024 times that of a woman of 30. This sounds like an area ripe for government interference. I wonder how that compares to drinking or smoking while pregnant?

Mating between close relatives only increases the risk of problems by about 15% (no source cited).

Looks like it-according to that- I have a pair of lesbian hands?
:D
Not that I wouldn't ponder having sex with a woman (I think women are hot) It doesn't gross me out at all...I'm just entirely sexually devoted to my husband. And that's forever. If I could be a lesbian and a dedicated wife in love with my husband, and only have real sexual inclinations towards my husband. Then I would be a lesbian. But I don't think thinking that women are hot qualifies. Yes, very aesthetically pleasing. But I am only in love with my cutie pie at home.
Someone told me once that your sexuality is really based on which sex you are emotionally attracted to the most. Which sex strikes an emotional chord the most? Well men really seem to get me going emotionally, and physically. So do women, but in very minute degrees sexually and emotionally.

Except for my mom....she pisses me off sometimes in a way that isn't even human.:)

Oh and there's only a problem with Jinx doing that LJ if she's in a Goodwill. Uuuugh.

Not to diverge from serial killers, hot models, Down's Syndrome, and incest, but...

I was cruising abcnews this morning through a fark link, when something caught my eye: "Secret Signals: How Men Cruise for Sex"

I thought I'd check it out, not that I'm on the market for men cruising for sex, but I thought maybe I could pick up a thing or two. Not that The Man humping my leg in the shower isn't signal enough...

Funny enough, when I clicked the link I got an article entitled "Secret Signals: How Gay Men Cruise for Sex"

:eyebrow:

Anyway, given my deviant desire to watch gay men going at it, I decided to read on anyway. Apparently, one good way to determine whether or not a man is not only gay, but also hot to trot, is to look for the telltale "tapping one's foot up and down and swiping one's hand underneath the bathroom stall" which is a recognized signal used by persons wishing to engage in "lewd conduct" a/k/a "gay sex".

A more interesting article would be- how gay men don't cruise for sex. I spent my 20's hanging out with flamers- I love 'em but....


Sorry for the thread hijack but she wrote hers at the same time I wrote mine.

If you ask your husband and he agrees, it isn't infidelity. Especially if you let him watch.

I don't wanna.....In our relationship (we have discussed these things) that is cheating no matter what. He knows that if I start screwing someone else I don't need him around.(woman or not) And vice-versa.
All relationships are different cans of worms. That would only piss him off. For good reason. And again....I don't want to. Thanks for trying to help me and especially my husband out there Brian......but he really doesn't think that's hot. He would be right in thinking that that is his heart getting completely ripped out of his chest and pounded on with a tiny but effective hammer.
;)

Yeah, that describes us, except for the watching part. :) I was wondering why the article in the OP doesn't mention us bisexuals. No love. :(