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Kitsune 08-16-2007 10:31 AM

Good Morning, Idiot America
 
Will these years be known as the start of America trusting its gut over sound analysis and science? Here's a decent article on the trend of people no longer equating intelligence with success and why we're looking more to television and the government for simple answers to hard questions.

What will happen, though, when an entire generation of children grows up under these ideals? Will these delusions drive us to more gut-feeling reactions about international policy, education, and the devaluation of science?

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"Even in the developing world, where I spend lots of time doing my work," Hodges says, "if you tell them that you're from MIT and you tell them that you do science, it's a big deal. If I go to India and tell them I'm from MIT, it's a big deal. In Thailand, it's a big deal. If I go to Iowa, they could give a rat's ass. And that's a weird thing, that we're moving in that direction as a nation."
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Because scientific expertise was dragged into political discussion, and because political discussion is hopelessly corrupt, the distrust of scientific expertise is now as general as the dis-trust of politicians is. Everyone is an expert, so nobody is. For example, Sean Hannity's knowledge of, say, stem-cell research is measured precisely by his ratings book. His views on the subject are more well known than those of the people doing the actual research.
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"We've been attacked," [Pastor Ray Mummert] says, "by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture."

Spexxvet 08-16-2007 10:36 AM

These are the same people who absolutely will not question anything said by their porn-addicted, greedy, money-grubbing, alduterous, homosexual, drug-using, hateful, violent, racist, bigoted, stupid, hypocritical religious leaders.

Kitsune 08-16-2007 11:22 AM

Aw, this is what I get for being so far behind on posts, here. (not to mention not venturing into the Philosophy forum enough)

Yup, I duped it.

xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 375296)
These are the same people who absolutely will not question anything said by their porn-addicted, greedy, money-grubbing, alduterous, homosexual, drug-using, hateful, violent, racist, bigoted, stupid, hypocritical religious leaders.

Not to be confused with the porn-addicted, greedy, money-grubbing, adulterous, homosexual, drug-using, hateful, violent, racist, bigoted, stupid, hypocritical, politicians.

Spexxvet 08-16-2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 375332)
Not to be confused with the porn-addicted, greedy, money-grubbing, adulterous, homosexual, drug-using, hateful, violent, racist, bigoted, stupid, hypocritical, politicians.

Correct. Don't listen to the porn-addicted, greedy, money-grubbing, adulterous, homosexual, drug-using, hateful, violent, racist, bigoted, stupid, hypocritical, politicians or the porn-addicted, greedy, money-grubbing, adulterous, homosexual, drug-using, hateful, violent, racist, bigoted, stupid, hypocritical, religious leaders. Listen to the porn-addicted, greedy, money-grubbing, adulterous, homosexual, drug-using, hateful, violent, racist, bigoted, stupid, hypocritical, scientists.

LabRat 08-16-2007 12:56 PM

hey!

watch your tongue when you talk about porn-addicted scientists from iowa!

xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2007 01:17 PM

It's your tongue I'd rather watch.

Rexmons 08-16-2007 02:11 PM

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And they called it, puppy love...

DanaC 08-16-2007 05:57 PM

This is no place for a puppy!

elSicomoro 08-16-2007 06:04 PM

I'd like to kick some people like puppies.

"Don't wanna be an American idiot
One nation controlled by the media
Information age of hysteria
Calling out to idiot America"

yesman065 08-16-2007 07:13 PM

Its from Esquire - What'd you expect?

xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2007 07:52 PM

Isn't Esquire another term for lawyer?

yesman065 08-16-2007 07:59 PM

Yeah, but this rag has nothing to do with that - more like this:

"Esquire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia An esquire (abbreviated Esq.) is a person of a certain social status; always rather vague in its extent, the term has become practically meaningless today. "

DanaC 08-16-2007 08:01 PM

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A man or boy who is a member of the gentry in England ranking directly below a knight.
2. Abbr. Esq. Used as an honorific usually in its abbreviated form, especially after the name of an attorney or a consular officer: Jane Doe, Esq.; John Doe, Esq.
3. In medieval times, a candidate for knighthood who served a knight as an attendant and a shield bearer.
4. Archaic An English country gentleman; a squire.

yesman065 08-16-2007 08:23 PM

Yeah, but this rag has nothing to do with that

DanaC 08-16-2007 08:33 PM

Well, in a way it does. The use of Esquire both as a term for males of the lower gentry (with the subtext it gained as a term for young bachelors) and also for attorneys etc, which was a fairly typical career for the sons of the wealthy, meant that the term took on wealthy, playboy aspects. Hence Esquire for a men's mag.

yesman065 08-16-2007 08:43 PM

I got that Dana, but that mag is full of crap - It has no standards of anything - For example - from their mainpage:
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Originally Posted by Esquire
In these exclusive, Esquire-only videos, learn the secrets of shaving that your dad never taught you, watch a savant draw a cityscape from memory, or see the folks at BlendTec grind an Esky into a toxic powder.


xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2007 09:34 PM

I've seen that savant draw the cityscape from memory, on youtube, it's fantastic. They take him for a helicopter ride over Rome and then he draws like a 20' long panorama in complete detail. It includes the number and layout of the windows and the trim detail of every building.


Uh, now back to the regularly scheduled thread.

TheMercenary 08-17-2007 06:04 PM

The Mercenary, Esq.

I like it! :D


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