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Jeboduuza 07-26-2007 02:21 PM

Um, anime?
 
Anybody watch anime?

Well to the few people who I believe will even open this thread, I thoroughly enjoy it. Lunar Bleach is my current favorite. I also enjoyed Dragonball Z, Tenchi Muyo, Gundam Seed, Pokemon and briefly was into Outlaw Star before it got taken off Toonami years ago. I'm no hardcore anime guru, just an appreciating fan.

And it's a lot better in Japanese with English subtitles. Loads better.

Flint 07-26-2007 02:34 PM

The English overdubs are useless. just try watching Ghost In The Shell with the English audio track...
You know that all these heady subjects are being volleyed about, but in English they are not being spoken!

My theory: they figure if you are the kind of person who wants to watch with the English overdubs, you probably don't want alot of the more interesting subject matter anyway. The overdubs are geared towards stupid, lazy viewers.

Plus, Japanese just sounds cooler.

Jeboduuza 07-26-2007 02:50 PM

Hai!

Happy Monkey 07-26-2007 03:57 PM

Mononoke Hime is an exception. The English version was done by Neil Gaiman. So for that one, it's worth it to watch the English dub in addition to the Japanese with subtitles. It's also fun to watch the English dub with the literal English translation in subtitles to see what Gaiman changed to match the mouth movements.

Anything else I watch subtitled.

Clodfobble 07-26-2007 04:05 PM

Having done voiceover work, I can assure you that a large portion of the time the dub is significantly changed from the original translation, it is because you simply can't say all the words fast enough and still sound normal. Japanese especially is guilty of having these incredibly complex, nuanced concepts that are expressed with a three-syllable word, and would take two sentences to explain in English. Ghost in the Shell is especially bad, because they keep having these long scenes discussing philosophy--try reading the subtitled text out loud along with the movie, and see if you can do it without sounding like the MicroMachine Man.

Now, the acting on the other hand, well, that's another issue altogether...

wolf 07-26-2007 05:03 PM

I'm only mildly into anime. I happened across Paranoia Agent, thanks to OnDemand, and because of that checked out several of Satoshi Kon's movies, which I love ... Tokyo Godfathers and Millenium Actress. I wasn't as interested by Perfect Blue, though.

I also watch Witchhunter Robin.

Inuyasha is okay, but I don't watch it consistently.

I've tried some of the other anime movies, but most of them have not interested me very much ... Steamboy, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away. Howl's Moving Castle was okay, I guess. Grave of the Fireflies is possibly the worst movie I've ever seen. Aren't those all Studio Ghibli? Plays like bad Disney, you know, like from the late 1970s.

rkzenrage 07-26-2007 05:59 PM

I'm not a fanime, but I watch.
Been wanting to watch Witchunter Robin.
There is also a noir film about an actress who gets involved in a murder plot, something "blue"... lost the title, that I've been wanting to watch.
I watch what is On Demand and buy a few titles here and there.
Used to be into it more back when Akira first hit.

wolf 07-26-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 368481)
I'm not a fanime, but I watch.
Been wanting to watch Witchunter Robin.

Definitely watch it. Try to get the whole series ... OnDemand only showed the first 5 episodes the last time it ran.

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There is also a noir film about an actress who gets involved in a murder plot, something "blue"... lost the title, that I've been wanting to watch.
That's the Satoshi Kon project, Perfect Blue. I mentioned it above. It wasn't as good as the other two movies and the series I talked about.

BigV 07-26-2007 06:06 PM

purchased the best of Cowboy Bebop two disc dvd today for $4. woot! I have sessions 1 2 and 3 at home and will eventually accumulate the rest. I may get the movie too, if it falls into my lap like this one did.

rkzenrage 07-26-2007 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 368488)
Definitely watch it. Try to get the whole series ... OnDemand only showed the first 5 episodes the last time it ran.



That's the Satoshi Kon project, Perfect Blue. I mentioned it above. It wasn't as good as the other two movies and the series I talked about.

Thanks for the tips!:D
Did you like Ninja Scroll? I know it is not spectacular, but something about it intrigues me.

Clodfobble 07-26-2007 06:50 PM

Wolf, have you ever seen Jin-Roh? I think you would like it.

Hime 07-27-2007 10:51 AM

I really like Miyazaki's work with Studio Ghibli (Mononoke, Spirited Away, Whisper of the Heart...) and Satoshi Kon's films and series, and I like Cowboy Bebob and Lupin III. I used to be a big anime fan and go to conventions every year, but these days I'm not as interested in most of it. My husband's a much bigger fan than I am -- he especially loves Naruto and Kare Kano.

Flint 07-27-2007 11:33 AM

If you're not into Studio Ghibli ...
 
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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 368444)
Plays like bad Disney, you know, like from the late 1970s.

I recommend Urotsukidōji: Legend of the Overfiend (graphic sexual content) and Fist of the Northstar (extreme violence).

Rexmons 07-27-2007 11:55 AM

Ghost in a Shell was definitely an experience, kinda like The Matrix on acid. I really like the stuff that takes place in the past, like Ninja Scrolls.

wolf 07-27-2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 368519)
Thanks for the tips!:D
Did you like Ninja Scroll? I know it is not spectacular, but something about it intrigues me.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 368521)
Wolf, have you ever seen Jin-Roh? I think you would like it.

I haven't seen either of these, I'll make sure they're on the netflix queue, though!

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Originally Posted by Hime (Post 368704)
My husband's a much bigger fan than I am -- he especially loves Naruto and Kare Kano.

I've watched a few episodes of Kare Kano. I got quickly tired of the self-absorbed main character's pointless rivalry. Probably plays better to a Japanese audience.

Sperlock 07-28-2007 09:43 AM

I've watched anime where you read the English subtitles and listen to the English dubbing and end up getting two story lines that don't exactly match!

I've mostly been watching Ah! My Goddess lately but also have Record of Lodoss War.

rkzenrage 07-30-2007 02:03 AM

I'm getting rid of my La Blue Girl box set VHS. Anyone want it?

freshnesschronic 08-07-2007 10:57 AM

I LOVE BLEACH TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Bankai

wolf 08-07-2007 01:39 PM

Peeps, you gotta see Afro Samurai.

Totally typical Samurai Revenge Tale, but shee-it, it's got Samuel L. Jackson!

rkzenrage 08-07-2007 01:47 PM

Been enjoying RahXephon (grew on me now I really dig it, more subtle than the other big robot stuff), Eureka Seven, Samurai Champloo (want the DVD SO BAD!), Air Gear (Silly but I like it), and On Demand.

freshnesschronic 08-07-2007 01:51 PM

That anime is...different. A good different. American artists make it seem really different. The first fight I saw with the white skin cowboy or w/e is cool though.

Rexmons 08-07-2007 02:01 PM

the song is what makes this clip.

Gaelic Ninja 08-09-2007 07:51 AM

I've been watching some stuff that's either just been licensed or hasn't been licensed yet, so bear with me if none of the titles sound like anything you've ever heard of.

Been watching Tokyo Majin, Darker then Black, So long, Mr. Despair, Full Metal Panic!, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and RahXephon.

For the most part, it's all action or mecha, and I highly recommend all of those to people interested in some... different concepts of how to have a good anime. So long, Mr. Despair is ridiculously funny, too.

freshnesschronic 08-14-2007 02:37 AM

Naruto.

Yeah, boy.

kage bunshin no jutsu!

minnmirman 08-14-2007 02:45 PM

The only anime that Ive seen where the english dub is better (in my own humble opinion) would have to be cowboy bebop. That was some great voice acting.

The only others ive really watched were samurai champloo, full metal alchemist, and some weird bug i caught in college where i found the urge to watch the first 150 or so episodes of naruto in a week....

Clodfobble 08-14-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by minnmirman
The only anime that Ive seen where the english dub is better (in my own humble opinion) would have to be cowboy bebop.

Then you haven't watched very much anime. I'm not even questioning whether the Cowboy Bebop dub was any good; I only ever watched the sub. But Bandai uses a stock set of voiceactors for all of their releases. Those same four people who did that "great voiceacting" have done the main characters for literally dozens of other animes (and the translations were done by the same people too.) That's one of the main reasons I don't like watching mainstream release dubs: I can immediately recognize all the voiceactors, and it's distracting to be constantly remembering all the other characters they've done.

minnmirman 08-14-2007 11:43 PM

haha yes, i admittedly havent seen too much anime. besides those i mentioned, pretty much none (besides flcl...trippy.)

manephelien 08-17-2007 02:33 AM

Admittedly I haven't seen much anime, mainly because I find the manga aesthetic incredibly ugly. However, I did happen to catch part of a sort of 3D animation about a post-apocalyptic world where they were considering whether to give humanoid robots the means to reproduce naturally or not. I'd really wish I could see it again, and from the beginning this time.

rkzenrage 08-19-2007 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 369481)
I'm getting rid of my La Blue Girl box set VHS. Anyone want it?

You can pm me, you don't have to let everyone know you are a perv too.
It was a gift and has only been watched once or twice. It is in good shape and I am not asking anything for it.

Cloud 08-19-2007 09:00 PM

no matter how cool it is, and how many times I try, I canNOT get into it. It's like wrestling--things I think I should like, or might like, but don't.

deadbeater 08-22-2007 04:21 PM

The powers that be wanted to title a certain anime into a very corny and imho irrelevant title in English. Common sense prevailed and they kept the title Utawarerumono, now my current favorite anime. Hard to believe the anime is based on a dating game.

The only problem with a show like Naruto is that sometimes it's like Dragon Ball Z in that it takes a year's worth of episodes to resolve a single fight. In real life, a fight is resolved in an average of five seconds. Five seconds.

Gaelic Ninja 08-22-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by manephelien (Post 375713)
Admittedly I haven't seen much anime, mainly because I find the manga aesthetic incredibly ugly. However, I did happen to catch part of a sort of 3D animation about a post-apocalyptic world where they were considering whether to give humanoid robots the means to reproduce naturally or not. I'd really wish I could see it again, and from the beginning this time.

You're referring to Appleseed. Excellent movie, and it's not quite about what you say it's about. There's a couple of other angles in there. Guy who did the original manga of Appleseed also was the one who did Ghost in the Shell.

freshnesschronic 08-23-2007 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by deadbeater (Post 377418)
The only problem with a show like Naruto is that sometimes it's like Dragon Ball Z in that it takes a year's worth of episodes to resolve a single fight. In real life, a fight is resolved in an average of five seconds. Five seconds.

That's why it is anime. That's why I watch it. It's not real life, it is anime.

freshnesschronic 12-10-2007 11:50 PM

Wow.

I love anime, currently reading Bleach online manga instead of studying.

"You can't match up to me!"
"Oh yeah? Well what about this!"
"Huh??"
BOOOOM
"<<Cough, spit, pant>> That's cool, but you haven't seen what I'm about to unleash!"
"What?"
SLASH
"<<Gets up from rubble>>Shit..that was very impressive and all, but I failed to tell you, that THIS is my true form!
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZHHHHHHHWAAAAANNNNGGGG!!!
"Oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"

Urruke 12-16-2007 02:07 AM

Bleach is good. Though they do WAY too much running in the anime. An ep in the 140's is almost all running. XD
currently watching Naruto Shippuuden, bleach, night wizard, and Saiyuki(org,reloded,gunlock,requiem.)

BigV 02-19-2008 05:32 PM

I fell asleep on the couch last night, with the tv on The Cartoon Network. At 2 am, I woke to the opening credits of Star ... child... something.... weird.. well, I was still a little foggy. It turns out the star wasn't part of the title at all. Only today was I able to piece together what the title was.

FLCL. Fooly Cooly, Furi Kuri, Episode One . Amazingly weird. I'm gonna stay up (or get up) late and catch the second (of only *six* episodes) tonight, Firestarter.
Quote:

At times psychedelic and touching, the visually stunning work takes a twisted look at the point in life where childhood yields to adulthood.
Yup, that would about cover it.

Clodfobble 02-19-2008 06:27 PM

Oh yes... Fooly Cooly is W-E-I-R-D.

deadbeater 02-20-2008 01:11 AM

Fooly Cooly is awesome watch. I guarantee that, even if you are a nippophile, you won't get all the references.

BigV 02-20-2008 10:17 AM

Set my alarm. Woke up on time. No Fooly Cooly. Dangit! Now I have some more detective work to do. I'm hooked.

Flint 02-20-2008 10:59 AM

I've got that one set to record (now that y'all told me about it) ...

BigV 02-20-2008 12:31 PM

Oh yeah? Mr Smarty pants?

Where is the schedule? I'd record it too, if I knew what and when....

**please**

There. I said it nicely.

Flint 02-20-2008 01:08 PM

I don't know, exactly. Direct TV has a search by title, I selected it and told it to "record all" and then I bumped it up in the prioritizer.

BigV 02-20-2008 05:51 PM

FLClimax, Brittle Bullet, Full Swing, Marquis de Carabas, Fire Starter, Fooly Cooly.

26 Feb 2008 0430 am

toranokaze 02-20-2008 06:03 PM

www.animefever.org
I get a lot of anime I don't download here

BigV 03-31-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 433628)
I don't know, exactly. Direct TV has a search by title, I selected it and told it to "record all" and then I bumped it up in the prioritizer.

Ok. Report. I have surmised from the schedule that it has been on once a week, Tuesdays. Or is that Wed 0100? I don't know. I haven't seen any more episodes, but you certainly have had time to record and watch some, so.... what gives?

I saw the scooter girl and her guitar target a number of times this weekend.

At Sakura-Con! Report and pictures to follow. It was *awesome*. SonofV and I had a great time.

SteveDallas 03-31-2008 05:20 PM

I guess this means we have to guess what characters you're cosplaying, right?

BigV 03-31-2008 05:28 PM

You certainly may guess! And, while you're at it, guess about SonofV's costume inspiration. All will be revealed when I create the thread.

BigV 04-11-2008 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 433628)
I don't know, exactly. Direct TV has a search by title, I selected it and told it to "record all" and then I bumped it up in the prioritizer.

So, Flint. Did you record them? Did you watch them? I saw the box set at Sakura-Con but didn't feel compelled to part with $70 for six episodes. I am looking for a little feedback here. Well?

By the way for other readers who might be able to contribute, I'm looking for feedback about FLCL.


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