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freshnesschronic 06-25-2007 12:38 AM

Stubborn People Suck
 
Is there a personality disorder for extremely stubborn people who might never realize that they are wrong? I hate it when I have to give up my argument because they are too much of a blockhead to budge and even see someone else's view. I think it should be diagnosed.

lumberjim 06-25-2007 12:52 AM

why bother....they're 10% of the population. a known element. there is a segment of 10% that is completely suggestible on the other end of the spectrum that balances them out...

concentrate on the other 80%. they make all the difference.

freshnesschronic 06-25-2007 12:55 AM

<<Sigh>>
If life was as easy as LJ says it was, if only.

lumberjim 06-25-2007 12:56 AM

did i say life was easy?

freshnesschronic 06-25-2007 12:57 AM

No, but just saying in general, the way you put it.

lumberjim 06-25-2007 01:00 AM

i'm just saying that those people only hurt them selves by being that way. dont you waste time tryng to convert them....it saps your energy, and has no positive yeild. in other words:


ah.....fuck 'em.

Jeboduuza 06-25-2007 01:06 AM

Awwww freshnesschronic and lumberjim playing nice in the sandbox how cuuuuuuuute.

Kodak moment, guys, big hug!

Aliantha 06-25-2007 03:00 AM

I agree with lj on this one. Don't waste your time on people who refuse to listen. Worry about the ones who do.

DucksNuts 06-25-2007 04:42 AM

You two are... like, in love or something....its seriously freakin' me out!!!

Aliantha 06-25-2007 05:36 AM

nope. definitely not. he grosses me out.

He eats pork chops for snacks!

lumberjim 06-25-2007 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 358610)
nope. definitely not. he grosses me out.

He eats pork chops for snacks!

and you wake your husband up with your farts. your point?

TheMercenary 06-25-2007 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 358579)
Is there a personality disorder for extremely stubborn people who might never realize that they are wrong? I hate it when I have to give up my argument because they are too much of a blockhead to budge and even see someone else's view. I think it should be diagnosed.

You fail to consider that your position on your argument could be wrong, therefore you may just be a part of the 10% that fails to bend to reason.
:earth:

freshnesschronic 06-25-2007 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 358629)
You fail to consider that your position on your argument could be wrong, therefore you may just be a part of the 10% that fails to bend to reason.
:earth:

Knew it was coming. But I do know when I'm wrong once I realize it, I am not overly stubborn. And that's not just me being stubborn and saying I'm not.

Cloud 06-25-2007 01:04 PM

arguments never convince anyone of anything. Give up trying, you're only causing yourself grief.

Shawnee123 06-25-2007 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 358675)
know when I'm wrong once I realize it, .

I know I'm wrong once I realize it, too. :confused: So is it still being stubborn if you don't realize that you're wrong, or are you stubborn if you fail to realize that you're wrong if you really don't think you're wrong, or does not realizing mean that you're not wrong or is being wrong the absence of realization...etc and so on?

LabRat 06-25-2007 02:39 PM

No, stubborn people tell their husbands to stuff it, then hand them the lotion.





14 hours, and I'm the first one to post a play on words this easy? C'mon. Stop staying up all night with Sundae, it's slowing you guys down :D

Aliantha 06-25-2007 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 358622)
and you wake your husband up with your farts. your point?


My point is, I could never love a man who eats pork chops for snack.

elSicomoro 06-25-2007 05:38 PM

Well, good thing I have April then...mmmm...pork chops...*drools*

lumberjim 06-25-2007 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 358762)
My point is, I could never love a man who eats pork chops for snack.


well...let's clarify. it was not pork chopS. it was pork CHOP. singular. also...it was probably not what you imagine a pork chop to be.
Jinx gets center cut pork chops....very lean white meat.....marinades them, and grills them. it's like a tiny little steak. about 4 inches by 3, and 1 inch thick. tasty as all hell and Atkins friendly.

now......time for you to make waking your husband up with you farts sound cute.


I'm waiting.

lumberjim 06-25-2007 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeboduuza (Post 358590)
Awwww freshnesschronic and lumberjim playing nice in the sandbox how cuuuuuuuute.

Kodak moment, guys, big hug!

ya know...i am consciously trying not to be a prick to him. it takes a little effort...but i think the people appreciate it. I do what i do for the people, jeboo. for the people. I'm an altruist, really.

Aliantha 06-25-2007 10:09 PM

now......time for you to make waking your husband up with you farts sound cute.

He gets out of bed with a smile on his face every day. I think that's all that matters. ;)

freshnesschronic 06-26-2007 12:16 AM

lumberman, I never knew you were so kind... I'm tearing up right now.

rkzenrage 06-27-2007 12:48 AM

I will concede a point, and have in here, if shown facts or rational points clearly and succinctly. I will thank you for showing me the error of my ways and/or apologize for any transgression graciously.

However, if you/they just make your "point" emotionally and state that I should change because you REALLY believe something or REALLY want me to and bla..bla...bla... (your stuff that ends-up meaning you just want to, or think you should win the argument/disagreement because it is "important" to you) ain't gonna' happen.
No amount of anything is going to budge me, I have the patience of Job and will not emotionally invest no matter what you bring into it.
It has nothing to do with being stubborn.
It has to do with refusing to be manipulated and refusing to set that precedent for the future.

skysidhe 06-27-2007 11:04 AM

UT _OH I am sure I can be stubborn but that's when I think I am 100% right.




Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 359180)
I will concede a point, and have in here, if shown facts or rational points clearly and succinctly. I will thank you for showing me the error of my ways and/or apologize for any transgression graciously.

However, if you/they just make your "point" emotionally and state that I should change because you REALLY believe something or REALLY want me to and bla..bla...bla...

No amount of anything is going to budge me, I have the patience of Job and will not emotionally invest no matter what you bring into it.
It has nothing to do with being stubborn.

It has to do with refusing to be manipulated and refusing to set that precedent for the future.


ahh the voice of reason...amen to that rk


I think one has to consider how often a person tells you they are right and you are wrong.
Is it just one issue? Everyday? Maybe there is a shared blame fresh?

I don't really think people can make blanket statements like that and be right. Somepeople just don't know how to be wrong and change for the better.

Those people I drop like a bad habit.

rkzenrage 06-27-2007 11:31 AM

Quote:

No, stubborn people tell their husbands to stuff it, then hand them the lotion.
Really? If that was the attitude taken the "stubborn person" in question would get left behind if that was a normal response.
No sex is not an option.

Cicero 06-27-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 358579)
Is there a personality disorder for extremely stubborn people who might never realize that they are wrong? I hate it when I have to give up my argument because they are too much of a blockhead to budge and even see someone else's view. I think it should be diagnosed.

No, but thank you. I just made up "diagnosis-itis" and you were the inspiration! (also roughly based on Gestalt theory.:D )

rkzenrage 06-27-2007 11:38 AM

I have known bi-polar people to have severe issues with changing their stance on disagreements.
Mildly autistic individuals also, they tend to be obsessive and dislike change. Once they have an opinion they are not likely to alter it.
I have a couple in my family.

TheMercenary 06-27-2007 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 358708)
I know I'm wrong once I realize it, too. :confused: So is it still being stubborn if you don't realize that you're wrong, or are you stubborn if you fail to realize that you're wrong if you really don't think you're wrong, or does not realizing mean that you're not wrong or is being wrong the absence of realization...etc and so on?

I was wrong... once.

TheMercenary 06-27-2007 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 359180)
I will concede a point, and have in here, if shown facts or rational points clearly and succinctly. I will thank you for showing me the error of my ways and/or apologize for any transgression graciously..

Where the Hell have you ever done that? Just interested.:whofart:

zippyt 06-27-2007 09:45 PM

I belevethe saying is
" never argue with an Idiot ,
they will drag you down to their level
and beat you with experence "

Cicero 06-28-2007 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyt (Post 359525)
I belevethe saying is
" never argue with an Idiot ,
they will drag you down to their level
and beat you with experence "

....this must be some sort of trick.

rkzenrage 06-28-2007 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 359516)
Where the Hell have you ever done that? Just interested.:whofart:

I do it all the time. Did so very recently. Not sure what thread it was in.


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