Batman -vs- Superman
 

I say Batman would wipe the floor with Superman, who's with me?
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Batman is cooler, but sorry, no match for The Man of Steel.

Batman. But I want him to wipe the floor with me, not superman :D

Batman could only win if he had Kryptonite. Does he have any?

You're completely underestimating the power of batshit.

Batman is the only superhero without any real "super" powers, yet he manages to hang with all the other superheros. Pick up any random Superman comic or watch any Superman cartoon and he manages to get his ass whooped in almost every single one. Batman on the other hand you rarely see take a beating. Batman could trick Superman into smoking a kryptonite cigarette if he really wanted to.

That's crazy.

Batman has legion female (and male?) fans who would happly hurl a little Kryptonite Clark's way if it won them a moment or two in the batcave....

Earth to Rex - In comic boks, etc., Superman only takes a beating for dramatic effect. IRL, he would crush batman as though he was a ... a... a... BAT!

Batman has a cuter outfit.

I'm a bit scared of the nipples, though....

Absolutely. But he has to have the kryptonite.

Superman is a dweeb, but kryptonite is the only thing that will take him down. Batman will win if he has some but will probably lose if he doesn't.

Yeah, but those ears! Can you imagine...never mind.:redface:

is everyone in here female, or just gay for the dark knight?

I'm female, and also ghey for the Dark Knight. ;)

I'm female, and I voted for Superman.

Your question was who would "wipe the floor." Based on strength and power, Superman is the clear winner. Batman's cleverer, and has a cooler costume, though.

Besides, everyone knows that Superman is gay for Lex Luthor!

I'm.... HAPPY!!!

Batman beat Supes in The Dark Knight Returns, but he had some help from Green Arrow and a nuclear missile.

dont forget the tank

Since this is the net, I'd like to call Superman out as a Nazi. Go Dark Knight!

That's just part of his ensemble, like the utility belt or the Batmobile. I wouldn't count it, or his powersuit, as external aid.

Wasn't the arrow tipped with kryptonite though? Shit that was a long time ago. 20 years?

Yup. Superman got nuked, the nuke blocked out the sun so he couldn't recharge, Batman shot him with missiles, Green Arrow hit him with a Kryptonite arrow, and Batman punched him out while wearing a power suit hooked into the city's electrical grid.

and then he told him his mother dresses him funny

Didn't Bats "die" of a "heart attack" only to come back from the "dead" to lead an underground resistance?

Eyes slideways, man.

I offer you this...
 

(in Shakespearean voice)

Batman!
Hanging on a rubber band
Along came Superman
Thought he was the boogeyman
Threw him in the trashcan.
(deep theatrical pause) Batman.

Now, I've never been clear who threw whom into the trashcan.

Yup. Superman survived, too.

Batman wins hands down.

Because he is cunning and would prepare well in advance - probably some sort of plot involving one of Superman's dependents, making Superman lose his temper and finally Kryptonite - but only as the coup de grace.

In fact I see it now - Superman on a tilted table, with a beam of pure Kryptonite slowly fizzing towards his super-nads and Batman in the background laughing, "No, Superman - I expect you to DIE!" Which is such a good idea I'm rushing off to copyright it.

batman - he doesn't rely on brute strenght alone, but has the intelligence to invent those awesome little toys:D

The original question is -

Batman -vs- Superman

No statement of the conditions of the fight, weapons allowed, or any mitigating factors.

On this basis -

Bare Knuckle Fight - No Weapons Allowed

Winner - Superman

Superman has strength, speed, and flight, just to name a few, to his advantage. No to mention Laser-vision™. He would pound the shit out of Bats.

However -

No Holds Barred -

Winner - Batman

Batman has no problem lying, cheating, stealing or killing, if he feels that it is in his best interests. Superman won't do that because of his "moral code".
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When people say: "Batman can kick Superman's ass" they really mean one of three things:

1. I like Batman more and think he can do anything.
2. I think Batman can win a one-sided battle where he's prepared and Superman isn't; and I've read comics like that.
3. I think Batman can beat Superman under specific circumstances, but all things being equal, Superman will almost always win.

With Case 1, there's no arguing with them. With Case 3, I think the individual is reasonable enough and there's no need to force them to say Superman will ALWAYS win unless we're suffering from a bit of Case 1 ourselves, but with a Superman bent. I think a mixture of Case 2 and a little bit of 1 is the predominant viewpoint of people who say it.

The thing is, they typically don't acknowledge the inequality in preparation or technology... it's almost always a contrived circumstance to bring about a Bat-victory by the skin of Bruce's teeth. Even if they do, they put their faith in Batman's preparation and planning (and sometimes technology) to rule the day. The following addresses that (reposted):

Despite the incredibly presistant and wide-spread belief that Batman has a dozen plans up his sleeve to take out Superman, historically it's been proven otherwise again and again. Let's take some examples:

DKR - Bats, after 20 years of planning, gets his ribs broke, his fancy suit torn to shreds, suffers a heart attack, and ends up in the ground. His entire plan relies on Superman holding back and NOT simply unplugging Bruce from his lamp-post or disabling him from space (if Supes really just wanted Bruce to turn himself in, rather than getting into a dangerous fist fight)... in other words, poor writing for Supes (out of character motivation, out of character intellect/tactics), who could have undid the Bat's plan easily.

Hush - Bats breaks his hand & resorts to thug-level hostage tactics, while admiting he doesn't stand a chance. Honestly, he just gets in one good punch (that breaks his hand) shortly after, Supes smashes through the street and effortlessly lifts a car in each hand, no worse for wear. His plan needlessly puts himself at risk and relied entirely on Clark holding back/being good, which he had no logical grounds on which the make that assumption... having a "gut feeling" that Clark can resist mind control does not constitute a good plan.

Red Son - Dies. Despite all his prep, he didn't account for Superman's allies, which he has in spades and certainly on a different power-level than- say- the Bat Family. If anything is true of Supes, it's that he has many friends that would readily risk life and limb for his sake- heck, in the regular universe, Batman considers himself one of that number... any plan meant to take Supes out has to take into account his allies, friends, family, robots, pets, etc.

Babel - Years of planning on how to stop a rogue Superman... result: an expensive synthetic rock that makes Superman MORE powerful (and doesn't even prevent him from using his powers with surgical precision). Wow. Brilliant.

Superman/Batman #2 - Owned. This is in Batman's home turf, the ideal situation to combat Superman and to enact all the theoretical plans his fans have long believed he has against a rogue Superman... but the result? Bruce isn't even Future Supes's target yet he's a breath away from death if not for a save from present-day Supes.

Lex Luthor:Man of Steel - Batman with kryptonite and prep, defeated handily by Superman. Arguably one of the most realistic portrayals of how Supes could still defeat Batman without instantly killing him regardless of Bat-prep.

Superman: King of The World - Batman with prep and kryptonite fails to stop Superman from being able to crush his throat... only with the intervention of Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter is Supes stopped. Here we see danger of Superman with limited prep, the legions of his similarly powered Superman robots.

Sacrifice - Again, Batman, king of protocols, the man entrusted with the Kryptonite ring as a symbol of trust and the express responsibility of stopping Superman should he go rogue by Superman himself... finds himself in said situation and instead of pulling out "always prepared anti-Supes plan" finds himself beaten to near death saved only by the Plot Gods.

Infinite Crisis - After the last beating, you'd think Batman would create more comprehensive plans for taking out Superman and/or Superman-class enemies. Granted Kal-L is probably levels above them, but in terms of Anti-SuperBrick Planning, once again, Bruce fails... his entire defense the Kryptonite ring. Even if it were Kal-El and not Kal-L, it's highly questionable whether the ring alone would have been able to stop a motivated rogue Superman considering Supes has wielded the ring himself when fighting other Super-persons. If Batman were truly the master of planning and prep, this certainly should have been taken into consideration.

Final score: Bat Plans Zip; Supes nine of nine.

The only cases where Batman has been able to possibly get a leg up on Supes are when he has acted like a villain and held hostages or lead an assault against an unsuspecting Supes- hardly a feat (consider: who amongst us, with Batman's fortune and training, intimate knowledge of Superman as an ally, and even express consent from said target, WOULDN'T be able to come up with an attack plan against an unsuspecting Supes?). In any case where Supes has had the opportunity to fight back he has either won or been defeated by bad writing.
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You're arguing about two grown men who aren't smart enough to put their undies on the inside of their pants.

OK. I think we have this one figured out. Let's move on to more important questions like....

Catwoman vs. Wonderwoman.

Wonderwoman sports a boomerang.

Catwoman sports a whip.

Gotta go with Catwoman. Meowwwww.

Well wonderwoman wears her undies on the outside too, so I'll vote for catwoman, although I think she has the same problem but at least has the sense to make her undies the same colour as her outers.

crimson i think the fight would be equal to a human fighting a grizzly bear, obviously if it's just the two of them without any special weapons or preporation the grizzly would win, but humans being the sly creatures they are, would prepare and more importantly, adapt.

as for WW vs CW, i think i might have to go with WW. you can't really comapre wonder woman with superman and catwoman with batman cause wonder woman seems more street smart and mean than superman and catwoman isnt as smart as batman.

catwoman isnt as smart as batman

Yeah but that's just cause she's a girl. If she were a boy she'd be smarter.

it has nothing to do with that, batman is "the worlds greatest detective" his mind IS his super power, catwoman is some crazy bitch who's into bondage it's like comparing apples and and tiny Einsteins shaped like apples. granted they both share a dark side but the similarities end there.

Wonderwoman has a lasso.

Sadism vs bondage... remind me who the good guys are in this one again?

Catwoman doesnt wear underwear Ali. Theres no VPL or any other line.

Catwoman would kick WWs arse coz shes heaps sexier :)

I gotta say, I'm with Wonderwoman on this one. I love cats and all, but catwoman has been done to death. This might just be because the TV show Wonderwoman was on when I was 11-ish, and I thought she was the coolest!

Weird, since I'm all about the batman.

Now, who do you think would have better kids:

Batman and Catwoman
Batman and Wonderwoman
Superman and Catwoman
Superman and Wonderwoman

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No, not even in the depths of airport lounge apathy, can I get heavily into this one (although I am warming to the injection of some female competition -all this male pitched against male is just all tooooo 1980's Rambo, darling).

Comic boyhood days (those lazy, hazy 1950's) were so poorly supported in the UK anyway. While you were treated to color-laden DC adventures, we had to put up with the black and white stuff involving the likes of Captain Marvel and his inspiringly amazing transformation codeword 'Kimota!' (come on writers - surely you could have done better than 'atomic' written backwards - whose fag (that's cigarette to Americans - well, maybe not on second thoughts...) packet were you borrowing that day?)

Catwoman gets my vote BTW - any costume with Miss Pfeiffer inside it has to be way out front of the opposition

Doesn't WW wear a pair of sports pants over the top of her stockings? I'm pretty sure she's wearing pantyhose under those red undies of hers. ;)

CATWOMAN!!! WW wears her jocks on the outside like the dweeb, that is why I reckon CW would win.

Its also, why Batman would kick Superman's tight buns :)

OH yes, well catwoman wears a 'catsuit'. :) Very sexy looking. Wish I could wear a catsuit and not look like a dumpling. lol

isn't the dumpling version called a catsuet?

lol...maybe.

Reminds me - did you ever get the Russ Abbott show in Oz with Blunder Woman?

Not that I know of, although from the sound of it, I'd say we have similar types of shows.

Has anyone considered the outcome of Superman against these two?

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>The Ambiguously Gay Duo<

:BUMP!: I'm bored... Discuss...

superman is still serving his controlled substances suspension?

Time to resuscitate Cellar field of 64?

What we need, is 64 different tournament formats... then we can have a Field of 64 to determine how to handle the Field of 64.

Nah, Superman just sucks...

This should settle any questions
 

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And it's not just them:

Superman = Superpowers
Batman = Pissed off rich guy

No contest. Superman would destroy batman in the blink of an eye.

Superman is clearly more powerful and would win in a fair fight. But if Batman had a chance to plan for it and could get some kryptonite, he would kick Supe's ass.

"Where does he get those wonderful toys?!”

Debate aside, is anyone else excited for "The Dark Knight"? I'm not even a comic book nerd, and the previews make me tingle in my pee pee place.