Thread Ownership
 

If you start a thread, is it yours? Or does it belong to the community? What right do you have to complain about the content other people apply to a thread you have started? What right do you have to ignore the thread "rules" imposed by the thread starter? Just wondering....

Me, I think trying to own a thread is like expressing ownership of a gallon of untrapped air. Which molecules exactly are yours, and how to you plan to control them? But then I see so much talk about "my thead, her thread, other people's threads...." :eyebrow: Isn't it a little lame to try and control responses to what you post (although obviously this is a necessity in game-type threads)? If threads were meant to be owned, wouldn't the starter have the ability to delete and moderate? Or is this the preliminary to a new netiquette? A code of conduct above and beyond that which is dictated by physical abilities and limitations?

Does this mean I don't own the sex thread anymore? :sniff:

No one owns a thread on an otherwise open forum. Don't be surprised what people post in response, and on that same note don't act all shocked by what responses are posted to your repsonse.

I so own the NSFW Dweller 2007 pics thread!!

ummm... no.:D

It used to be that you could ask UT for a forum of your own, for specific purposes... Syc's manifestos and LJs office for instance... You could have rules and moderate your stuff.
I don't know if that's still an option (but would guess that it is). I know LJ closed his forum becuase he just didnt have the time for it anymore.

I see everything else, except iotd, as public space. Think thread-starter not thread-owner.

Deff community Property , sorta fun (Some times ) were the thread drift goes !!!

The real question is who owns LabRat's Ass thread?

I dont see your arse on there buddy boy.....sooo...step up or off :) your choice

:p

Not a chance. That thread has already deteriorated into a bitch fest over a dick pic and the right to make or not make snarky comments. I don’t need to give anyone ammo on me.;) :D

Brrrrrock, brock brock :)

We have YET to see a dwellers penis....its just not fair.

yes, it belongs to the poster, but complaining is petty

Starting a thread is like launching a balloon or a paper boat... once you release it you have no control where it's going, no matter how much you want to. If you try, you'll probably kill it.

You can describe the guidelines you would like it to follow, where you hope it will go, but you can't make demands, and expect to be taken seriously.
What are you gonna do about it... log off?

Thread, string, rope, chain.... you can pull it, but you can't push it.

ducky...I'm sure we can find a penis for you ifyou really want one.

Depends on the thread, how personal it is, and if the topic begs input from others.

The dodads thread was Bruce's thread that others would sometimes post in. The Happy Monkey woodworking thread was the same.
There are a bunch of others too.

Maybe not a penis, but I'm sure some people think there are a few dicks around - based on the snarky comments I've read here lately.

I regard threadjacking of my threads as a badge of honor.

you can't make people respond as you wish to any thread. But I believe that the OP should have the right to delete the topic if he/she chooses.

I regard a thread's opening post's author as the 'owner' I guess. As for following rules, it depends on a thread's opening post. If an author asks for specific things, I try to adhere to those requests. The fun ones are the ones that seem to take the long way around a topic, sorta like accidently missing your turn, and finding a neat little part of town you never knew existed.

The Cellar: Drift happens.

I refer to F3's thread regarding my booty as 'mine' but that's only because it's about part of me.

I like that :)

What is an OP? Delete the topic? Do you mean delete the thread? I'm lost.

You're an enlightened man, Bruce, to ask for directions.

OP = Original Poster.

Topic = Thread.

I thought I did.

So I you invite a bunch of people to play soccer and they decide they would rather play field hockey, you want to kill the game?

I think that's a bad idea.

yes, you did.

I wouldn't kill a thread if it got off topic--I don't care about that at all.

If it digressed to a topic or discussion that I found personally offensive, or into attacking me personally, or appeared to be making everyone unhappy, then I would want that option, either by my own hand, or through a moderator or admin's kind offices.

Thread Drift is the essence of the organic, serendipitous magic that breathes life into the internet.

The alternative is, literally, sitting down in a room by yourself and typing up a Word document.

Guns!


Just kidding.

Threads are like sand castles. One person starts building, and others may join in. The original builder has a certain claim to it, but it's a public beach. Some of the contributors could start building in a completely different style, and they could overpower the original style. Or some jerk could walk in and kick it over.

Or build a bigger one right on top of it when you walk away to get a drink at the tiki bar.

You feel UT should kill any thread anyone says they find offensive? That Madam, is flagrant censorship. There wouldn't be any thread worth a shit left.
Just let go of the notion that it's your thread... it's not and thinking it is, will lead to more disappointment and heartbreak than having a teenage child.

Not at all. But I think someone who has posted a thread should have the option to withdraw it.

That has been done before a couple of times.

As to the sandcastle metaphor, I like it. And I guess most of us have shown our inner child off once or twice around here by stomping all over someone else's sandcastle.

It's just the way the cookie crumbles.

You can kill a thread... until someone responds to it. Then it's not yours any more, it's owned by everyone that has posted. I learned the hard way, if you kill the first post, you kill the thread.

I had someone PM me to kill a thread because it wasn't getting any response. Why? Sometimes a thread will sit for a long time with one or two responses, then suddenly take off. Often on a tangent but what difference does it make?

It is not "your" thread just because you started it, therefore it's not your duty or responsibility to babysit a thread that's drifted in a direction that doesn't interest you. In addition, it's not your fault just because you started it. You are not to blame if someone misbehaves in that thread.

Wind 'er up and let 'er go... you can follow or wave bye-bye, but that's it

I highly disagree. I think if you (someone, anyone) start a thread, then decide you don't like it after people have begun to post, you should edit your original post to say something like "I changed my mind about this thread so I'm deleting my parts of it." Then, delete your parts of it after the first post. By deleteing entire threads, you are stealing from the rest of us IMHO.

Better yet, don't start threads unless you really care about the topic and are willing to let them go where they will.

Start your own message board and moderate it the way you want. Or Blog away on Myspace, but don't burn down the whole house cuz the cat pissed in the houseplants.

Too many rules, too much moderation, these are the things that KILL a community. The Cellar is the porridge that is "just right" ...

LabRat, I think your comments were a little harsh to me when I was merely stating my opinin. I don't expect other people to agree with me, and I certainly wasn't demanding that any action be taken.

Your comments about editing the posts only are useful, but not a solution if a thread blows up in one's face. Remember that "the Internet is forever" and I think people ought to be able to have some control over their own threads. This is an opinion formed after many years on forums, but again, I really don't expect this to be a majority opinion.

I think your idea is worth of mockery and violent opposition, until you are shamed into admitting your wrongness. But that's just me.

I was not referring to you, Cloud, hence the (someone anyone) part. Sorry if that was unclear. Please ask me, don't assume something if I am unclear.

I was also stating MY opinion, hence the IMHO part.

Please define how a thread would blow up in one's face such that you, Cloud, would feel the need to delete it. Thanks.

I'm curious about that as well.

sorry, no. I don't want to define it. I can't. It's personal for each person. I just know it when it happens to me.

Maybe she's thinking of the "Do you own a gun" thread.

You mean "the thread which shall not be named"...:p

The community is stronger than the sum of it's parts. By participating, you acknowledge your acceptance the good parts and the bad parts.

Nothing that happens here happens "to you" ...

[saccharine]If you love it set it free. If it comes back it was meant to be.[/saccharine]

Tubgirl might fall into this category. no wait.....not a thread ...bad monster spoiling everyone's lunch :D (well brekky for them down under)

Absolutely not, "your" thread. Other peoples posts are not your fault, not your responsibility, not your property.

If you make a post , whether it be the first or twenty-first, in a thread, and change your mind, simply make another post saying so.

Cellar moderators are not conductors to lead the discussion, nor censors to hover over the discussions. They are the janitors with the wheelbarrow and shovel that follow the elephants.
We like it that way.

Um, yeah. That's what I was asking for. What whould cause you to want to delete a thread, Cloud?

I can't imaging ever wanting to delete one, even the one with pictures of myself naked. I wouldn't have put then there if I didn't mind them being out there.

That, like everything else, falls on the poster, nobody else in the thread, even the one that started it.
This stems from the philosophy that everyone is responsible for their own actions.

I was meaning the image itself, not the posting thereof ;)

With tub, even mentioning it requires you to take responsibility.
Even thinking about mentioning it, burdens your soul.

I feel so burdened, it's scary what noxiousness can come bursting out of a soul.

I'm not sure if I want to burden my soul like that. So I'm currently considering whether I want to think about mentioning it.

I think is causes hickeys.... or causes behavior that does.

so deep ...so poetic.

Poetic is spelled, s i l l y.

I like Flint's analogy:

from here

Exactly. And I am proud of MY topless photos that I posted here. I have some photos my boyfriend took just last week that I am rather fond of--I may post them here, too; if I do, that is my choice. It will also be my choice to reference them whenever and where're I can so's you never, ever forget that I posted them. Ever.

I will milk that cow for compliments until there ain't nothin' left! I will CONSTANTLY REFER TO MY OWN SET OF SOFT PORN PICS UNTIL YOU JUST DON'T CARE!!!

So. There.

Whew. Glad I got that over with.

Well Bri, you can milk me anytime.

Thanks, but I'm out of here.


This place has turned into a PC paradise and nobody has a fucking spine. have fun. I'm done here. enjoy the breathtakingly witty banter of such sissies as are left here. Huh. This place used to be cool.


Buh-Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Brianna, I hope you're joking. It's been less than a month since you posted this:
And because of that, I'm still here.

If you leave it will trigger a mass defection, like when the first popular party guest puts her coat on and everyone else says, "My, look at the time."

Plus, you haven't posted those pictures that you promised earlier.

Oh sure, you ungrateful cunt.
After we raise you and nurture you and frequently bail your ass out of jams. We educated you and then we put you through college, now you flip us the bird and stomp off because you're to big for your britches.

Well, when you get kicked it the patootie by the big, bad, world and have no where to turn, do you think you can just waltz back down the Cellar steps and be taken back in?




Yeah.... that's what family does.