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Gun thread must die!
I've tried my best to kill it. I failed. Or at least bung it in the political ramblings forum or nothingland. But it's just name-calling circles now. not exactly the first thing you want newbs to come across. Well jmho anyway.
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Sometimes people need to argue - what's so wrong about that? It's cathartic. If you don't like it.. blah blah blah...
I'm not trying to be shitty to you specifically monster, but sometimes the argument is interesting. What is never interesting is all the people chiming in to say stop it and tell everyone how immature they are. :2cents: |
Let 'em go at it I reckon.
I skim read them or dont bother at all...its that simple. If newbies read them and judge the whole of the cellar on those kinda threads, they arent going to want to hang around long anyways. Any forum worth a pinch of shit has volatile topic threads, I like them because it shows different sides of the *characters* I have come to know and love :) its more of a whole picture. |
Damn Brits and their censorship.
I'm kidding, Monster. Hey, I don't complain about the fru fru threads. |
You'll be pleased to know there's been a significant thread drift today. :) I'm sure it'll be back on topic before long though.
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Fair enough. :)
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Sorry monster, I screwed up your efforts by being the next person to post. If I hadn't, then UG would've been the bottom burper. LOL
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thanks, rkz.
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I don't understand this trend, bitching about other's threads. This, people whining about Cloud's threads & being real assholes about it, mine and others... so what, really, are we supposed to care what you think?
What is the point? |
That was some helpful advice, there. :D
(just poking fun, rkz) |
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People are always going into threads an leaving stupid comments like, In The Coffee Thread... "I don't drink coffee". It takes a real genius to do that. A real contribution. |
I think we should all just stop posting new threads. That should solve the problem. :)
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My only question is, what is it about guns that make perfectly reasonable people into complete ASSholes?
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I don't know... what is it about them that turns people into busybodies is what confuses me.
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I've been in the room when people have changed their mind. I have changed my mind on both abortion and the death penalty.
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So, there's a chance I might change your mind about illegal immigrants? ;)
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Sure, as long as it is rational. You are going to have a hard time convincing me that there is a rational reason to overturn our immigration laws, since they are some of the most liberal and easy to navigate in the world. That, and I feel that it is crazy to say that it is fair to reward people for harming the system and people's chances who are trying to get into this nation legally.
You don't reward people for cutting in front of you in line anywhere else... it would be silly to here where people's lives are one the line and it is criminals doing it... but you are free to show me a rationality for it. |
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Those are reasonable criteria.
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I was just trying to make a joke.
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Got it.
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I'm waiting for the gun thread arguments to end so the participants can get on with their make up sex. Man oh man, that's going to be one hell of an orgy! :eek:
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Differing public opinion makes this place what it is. I found out I was in the minority when I complained. Good. I needed to know that, I'm over myself now. You? Want to censor my opinion? |
When I don't like a thread, I punch my computer monitor. Well, not the actual monitor, but a plexiglass safety panel I installed in front of the monitor to protect it from whatever it is that keeps making them not work anymore.
I swear to God, if I have to punch one more broken monitor I am gonna seriously punch something. |
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You don't ever argue miss. |
Grief, peeps, it was JMHO as stated in the OP. Y'all said you disagreed, I said fine, what's with all the bitching?
...But to suggest I was wrong for commenting ...well that's just wrong. You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. Simple, no? As for comments on other threads ....remind me (or you) what Cellar Meta Forum is about? |
OK...you're all wrong! I'm the only one around here that's right. Just ask...
well... me. :) |
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People who would use a handgun on another human being are inherently aggressive. They have to be, since the intention of having a handgun is, at its most extreme conclusion, to kill someone who threatens them, someone near them, or their stuff. They also have to be inherently paranoid, because they live their lives with the anticipation that something bad will happen to them. So why do they turn into Assholes? Because they don’t want to admit that they’re scared, or that they would actually take someone’s life. Beyond those reasons, it’s hard to defend having a handgun. And when their other rationalizations fail, they resort to what they naturally do – they shoot the opposition with names, instead of bullets. They insult, belittle and ridicule their opponents, like pointing a handgun at them. When you are pointing a handgun at someone, you don’t have to talk anything out, do you? Most handgun-owning Cellarites justify owning a handgun by saying they need it to protect themselves, and their stuff, in their home. Some have other reasons, some won’t state their reasons, but predominately, that’s the justification. A handgun is not the most effective way to protect a home or stuff. [Someone] scoffed at floodlights and bars on the windows, but when they’re used with alarms and good locks, they will keep her safer from a potential intruder than having a handgun inside the house. If you don’t secure your perimeter, you could be woken out of a sound sleep being poked with the barrel of a gun. How would your handgun help in that situation? If you answer your door, and the intruder pushes through and beats your brains in as you try to get to your handgun, how did it help? If you answer the door with your handgun in your hand, loaded, with the safety off, or sleep with it in the same condition, under your pillow, bad things can happen. It would be easy to accidentally discharge the weapon, or for a child to get hold of it, with all the negative consequences of that, or for the intruder to get possession of it and use it on the owner or the owner’s family. |
I also told you to piss off when you PM'd me just to call me a dick becuase you apparently weren't fighting with enough people already. You're not debating spex, you're being a troll, and you're not worth my time.
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Gotta pick and choose with whom and over what. |
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Then you go off and apologize to everyone except me, the person who never insulted you, now you act like you had a reason for freaking out? Cute. Many people own handguns to target practice, as collectibles, as art, as heirlooms... you make assumptions. Handguns are not perfect, but they are better than not having one. People keep saying it, you keep choosing not to read it. But, if you believe all of that, cool... don't buy one. |
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Solely my opinion - and I'm tired of having to explain things to you.
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I do, thank you.
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Explain it to me then... I'd write the same damn things as xoB.
Nothing quite so shameful as prejudice the holder is proud of. |
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Everywhere xoB says BS, I was saying BS along with him.
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Same here.
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Me too.
Personally, I think that you are so insecure in your beliefs that you construct these grand, sweeping generalizations to delude yourself into thinking that there is actually some substance to your opinions. |
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It's my opinion, and I'm comfortable with it as it stands. I believe it's self-explanatory. If you think it's bullshit, I don't care - and I'm not going to explain myself. No pro-gun poster here has been asked by you to justify his/her statements like this - if you agree with them, they get a free ride. I'm not gonna play that game. If you want to do the work and prove that my points are wrong - go ahead - in fact, I encourage you to do it. Just saying bullshit doesn't make it so.
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You want me to prove that all gun owners aren't inherently aggressive paranoid assholes? Done and done, son. Known many of 'em that weren't. Some of the best people I've known.
Don't you see, your rant was inherently aggressive, and paranoid and I'll stop there. Doesn't matter what side it's from, it's the irony that got to me. I've known the worst racists who couldn't construct a richer stereotype than you just did. Gotta be proud of that shit and whoa, you obviously are. Hey, can you identify a gun owner by sight? Or do you have to hear him talk first? |
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But intelligent people understand and know you're right, so those that don't (that's me) are either "a dick" (your words) or what? Stupid? Don't PM me again. I think you're acting like a troll and won't be reading your posts. edit: For the record, I couldn't care less about the name-calling. I was calling bullshit on Spex's claims of "everyone else started it!". |
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Oh, that's right! I said it as well...:D |
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Spamming a thread with a deluge of obviously off-topic posts of guys that are clearly not hot has absolutely nothing to do with thread bombs.
Thread bombing is not the same as thread killing. |
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