Organic
 

This could have gone in the food thread... or the parenting thread, for that matter, but here it is.
The Organic Trade Association (OTA) is the membership-based business association for the organic industry in North America. They've put together a list that's kind of scary.There is a list of 9 things that are happening to children because of the excess use of pesticides, along with the sources of their claims.
I think this is more important than ever because of the tremendous increase in food being imported from places that allow much stronger chemical concoctions than can be used here.

Caution: It's not just for pet food any more.

My reply in Cloud's scary-as-hell post about Chinese food applies here as well.

Good info, xo.

As a side note, here's a BusinessWeek article from last October, on the current state of the organic food business. This reinforces my concerns about not knowing where what you're eating is coming from.

A lot of those foreign markets are not monitored.
I was an organic farmer. It was a serious problem.

I've always wanted to be a farmer. After my grandfather got back from Korea he started farming and has been doing that and heavy equipment work forever. Me-thinks it might be time to start thinking about starting an organic farm. I seem to have lots of friends that would be helpful...

you're just figuring this out now?

No.

Even if you grow your own veges and don't use pesticides and use natural fertilizers such as animal droppings or fish scales and seaweed, you still don't have an organic garden unless you've got no pollutants comming from anywhere including seepage through the soil, air pollutants and water pollutants.

If you live anywhere near the city you are fighting a losing battle to save yourself from pollutants although with that in mind, I live in the city and what plants and veges we grow for the table don't have pesticides used on them and in general, it's water from the tank used for watering.

It's difficult to protect your family in modern times, but I still think that any little thing you can do is better than doing nothing.

I seem to have won the grasshopper war without pesticides. I'm now what you might consider to be a mass murderer. :(

Did you know those bastard creatures were eating my chillis before they were even ripe. In fact, they seemed to prefer the flowers and new green fruits before they came into their true colour.

There are a lot of headless grasshopper skeletons in my side garden now and my new chilli crop is just about ready to be picked.

I'm on the way to spray some weed killer and some pesticides now.
Something is eating my new beans. Think snail or slugs?
When I find a better way I'll use it. :bolt:

Try garlic in a spray bottle with water. It works pretty well. Also you can try planting things that bugs don't like such as marigolds among the lettuce. I'll see if I can find a site about 'natural' pesticides which might help.

OK, here's a couple of links.

http://www.ghorganics.com/page9.html

http://www.bbg.org/gar2/topics/susta...control/7.html

"Organic". Highly over used. Highly marketed.

What do you mean?

The term "organic" as a marketing label is unregulated in the US. Many products with such labels are not really organic in the sense that many believe and idiots will buy them because they say they are "organic" when in fact the company is attempting to sell the product to the consumer on a false pretense. The history of mass marketing is actually a fantastic study. Group think is predictable. People often buy products based on the label and don't really stop to think about why they are paying money, sometimes extra money, for products they believe are in some way superior to other like things on shelf next to those they are willing to drop out an extra few dollars on. "Fat free" is another great example. Companies have begun to label things FF that have always been such. But all of a sudden it is a grand marketing tool that the mass consumers have absorbed in their attempt to eat FF or Organic or Green. The whole thing is a grand marketing scheme in MHO.

In Australia if you're buying something which is labled organic is has to have been through strict testing. That is, it comes products grown at farms which have been certified organic. The proceedures for becomming certified organic are stringent here, and the guidlines are quite strict although the industry needs further regulation because there's nothing in place to stop a 'body' from declaring itself as a 'regulatory body' and developing a stamp etc, as long as they follow the industry recognised standards.

Not true. From the Newsweek link.

Sevin dust on my TexasStar 444 tomatoes. Am I gonna die? :headshake

In chemistry, "organic" means a compound of carbon. Yummy organic petroleum. :yum:

I'm not sure whether the USDA would accept that definition, though...

You probably won't die from Sevin, but if you have any honeybees around, they will. Sevin is one of the most toxic pesticides to bees, they bring it back to the hive with pollen. In high enough concentrations, it can kill off an entire hive. The bees are under enough attacks already from varoa mites and this new colony collapse disorder, they don't need any more stress. You might try planting chrysanthemums in the garden, they have naturally occurring pesticides (pyrethrins), which may slow the attack of whatever is eating your tomatoes. I also use a hot pepper wax spray, which seems to help.

It's my understanding that there's a difference between "organic" (a term used rather loosely and largely unregulated) versus "certified organic" (accreditation process that mandates the food must meet certain criteria as set forth by the FDA). In other words, "organic" is a marketing tool, "certified" might actually be authentic.

See post 17, Smurf.

From Natural Pesticides from Plants

I try to only eat organic food..... I started having stomahc problems and then I read how GMO food makes alot of people sick.... (General malise,etc)

Its garbage and should be stopped!!

Either grow your own parsley or buy the dehydrated as long as it is green after drying. This is a heartburn killer. My wife has stomach trouble too.
Use in all your cooking and be generous with it.

When in a decent steak house there is a sprig of the parsley on the ribeye. You eat that first. The bread is really there to kill the taste of the parsley. I worked in restaurants on my way through college. Tips are good when the payee is happy.

Thank you Captain :)

That'll work. Definitely. Absolutely no question about it. But make sure you ask and are satisfied that the parsley is organic first. Make them show you a certificate of proof if necessary.

Eating the parsley first, I been doing it right all along. Thanks Captain.

I'm gonna be organic enough soon enough, thanks.

Good for you buddy!!

Ya should feel better also :)

Most organic food tastes better as well.......

He didn'r say eat organic, he said be organic.

I'm Orgasmic.

Ah man!!

I'm morgasmic.